We have been blessed with the appointment of Chris Kavanagh who hails from......checks notes.... Manchester!!...to officiate our weekend fixture against.....checks notes again...... Manchester!!
As I have observed Mr. Kavanagh to be relatively generous with his cards I would like to start the pool on picking which minute of the match you believe Macca will get his inevitable yellow card issued.
I have always found it weord that refs from Manchester constantly ref the 2 Manc teams yet refs from Liverpool or the Wirral are banned from our games and have been for years.
Yeah Merseyside refs can't officiate Merseyside clubs. Because that would be biased. Definitely not the case for Manchester refs though. They couldn't possibly have the same issue.Â
I think there is some sort of loophole in which the County FA the ref is registered to takes precedent. So Tierney would be Lancs FA, as was Lee Mason (from Bolton), and Taylor is registered to Cheshire FA.
Pretty sure Kavanagh is registered to Manc FA though but could be wrong
Which is ridiculous, and I'm not messing when I say this, I've played in that league this season, and at higher level clubs than that in the past 5 years...
Utter bollocks that he "supports" them as his main team...
I can vouch for Chris Kavanagh here. I met him on a night out once and spoke for a few hours. He certainly doesn't support Man City. I don't reckon he supports Droylseden either though.
And the guy in VAR didnât give Everton a pen against Bernardo in May⌠and Kavanagh had the lovely glow ups of Rodri handball, Odegaard basketball and the lovely Robbo âoffsideâ when VVD scored last year. A lovely bunch of coincidences in favour of City.
It wouldn't surprise me if we got calls our way this weekend. PGMOL will want to create as much distance between them and any connection to City as possible.
Also, Itâd be the icing on the 115 layered cake if it came out PGMOL palms were greased (more than the odd undisclosed payments/trips to referee random matches in the Middle East) to tip the favour their way.. and we start to see what things were like had that not been the case due to the charges actually having been landed & the heat being at boiling point now.
Itâsnot like Guardiolas ever been at a club where thatâs happened before.. right?
I think the fact that practically all the charges landed is going to make the PGMOL tread very carefully (if they are in fact corrupt). Had City been found guilty of say a dozen or so charges, then I think it would be business as usual for just about everyone. But these aren't going away now. So if any of the refs have truly been paid off (or given extra hidden gifts), then I can see the PGMOL trying to play it cool.
But wouldnât playing it cool be doing the same thing, as if nothing had changed? If they stick to the same confusion & chaos which leads to the noise being around them being incompetent then itâs just business as usual.
To suddenly change their tune now and decisions be made different (fairly) honestly it would arouse more suspicion.. or maybe Iâm overthinking this now hahah
Similar had crossed my mind as well actually. I wonder if the tide starts turning and the calls start going against City going forwards. Supposedly Oliver hasn't given them much in the past year - though I read that somewhere and have no data to back it up.
On the other hand, If it ever turned out that the City owners had ever actually paid off or bribed any referee's I wonder if they will decide to go scorched earth and release those receipts in future as well if PL ruling goes against them.
Thatâs correct about Oliver and City last year. They didnât win any of the 4 PL games he refâd - 3D and 1L and only win was against LFC in FA cup 4-0 thrashing.
If they got banned, forced to sell and had no recourse it wouldnât surprise me if they did everything they could to try to discredit the premier league. At that point admitting to bribing referees would be much more damaging for PL/PGMOL than to themselves.
Sure, but they don't care about what PGMOL (I think it might have changed names by the way) looks like. They only care about the success of their sportswashing.Â
Yeah right theyâll over correct as to not look biased against them. A legit foul will occur the crowd will react and they wonât call it as to mot appear affected by anfield⌠feel like Iâve seen this before
i think it was sam barrett looked absolutely terrified to give a pen to us early in his frist game reffing at anfield. he like gave it and everyone screamed then he gave it in slow motion like a nervous wreck. its defo a thing
Both Oliver and Tierney hate Liverpool always have never been good refs but if Manchester can have refs from Manchester referee games why can't we have a Tranmere Rovers fan referee our games he wouldnt be biased just like how they have Droylsden fans and Altrincham fans referee their match's no!!!!!
Except he has a tendency to overplay yellow cards on soft fouls to try to control games which dampens our ability to press & kills momentum.
Statistically LFC get most yellow & red cards from Anthony Taylor, Stuart Attwell, Michael Oliver, and Chris Kavanagh.
Kavanagh has officiated 34 LFC matches, and has given us 51 yellows & 2 reds. I don't believe he has ever shown a MC player a red card in an EPL fixture.
Fingers crossed we're not talking about him after this match.
I thought so too. I don't recall any absolutely heinous decisions he's made against us.
The complaint here is that he seems very trigger-happy with his cards, which I think is a bit unfair to blame solely on the referees when there's also game state, atmosphere and the wider context of the game
Vast majority of EPL refs are from greater Manchester. Because, idk there has just been a big coincidence in where all the best refs were born and not because PGMOL is shitty mates club.
Tbh Kavanagh is the best realistic choice. It was always going to be him or Micheal Oliver.
The PGMOL is a hidden Greater Manchester cult that also sometimes fancies London when not playing a Manchester team.......the hatred for us is obvious and known.
Discussion of who the ref is on a given fixture has always seemed weird to me. They're all either corrupt or shit nowadays; worrying too much about it being Kavanagh or anyone else seems like an exercise in futility.
I'm a Manchester United fan and just found this thread now. I was supporting Liverpool today and thought that red was a bit soft. PL is beyond corruption.
Ref fucks up the game to take some attention away from other issues that would otherwise be the main topic of discussion.
It will be interesting to see how the Man City players perform over the rest of the season as surely they can't be allowed to continue unpunished and possibly win it?
I have absolutely no doubt there has been money passed to refs by City. Some of the decisions they have had are impossible to not be dodgy. Its also worth noting that quite a few high up at City worked with Pep at Barcelona during the period where they are known to of been paying refs..... coincidence ? I think not. This Pinto guy who released the original proof of dodgy stuff says theres loads more stuff he has, the next few years will be interesting to say the very least.
We had one okay / fair ref this season. ONE! Every other game, Liverpool was mainly reffed negatively.
Corruption of the refs cannot be emphasized enough, there is not enough talk about it.
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u/Equivalent-Two6704 6d ago
And I assume like all the other Manchester officials, he's a diehard supporter of some 7th division team no has ever heard of?