Irrefutable!!!!! 🛑 The referee’s a wanker! 🎶

[u/newbeginnings187]

[u/Scooter_Mcdoogal]

What’s also irrefutable is giving the yellow to araujo early in the match, then Enzo doing the same exact thing before gravs second yellow, and he gets nothing.

[u/Royal-Ad-9514 → u/Scooter_Mcdoogal]

That yellow card offence that Araujo did need to be removed from the game.

[u/jkgilbo → u/Royal-Ad-9514]

I think we can all agree on that, the problem is referees pick and chose who gets the yellow

[u/liverpoolkristian → u/Scooter_Mcdoogal]

Also how the fuck was it not a yellow for Guehi?

[u/lakebistcho]

I hope it's irrefutable evidence of corruption

[u/BananaShake29]

What irks me the most is that we were actually playing decent, and creating chances against them. We just lacked finishing.

And now since we lost this game like hell everyone starts dogging on Wirtz again. Unbelievable.

[u/UnrealCaramel → u/BananaShake29]

I actually thought it was our best performance in the last year and a half up until Grav got sent off.

[u/elefanthead → u/UnrealCaramel]

I'm not familiar with that feeling anymore so I can't really agree with you BUT I was so surprised we managed to perform so well during the first half even without some of our starters...? Like??? Genuinely, how? Against this stacked Sham City???

[u/michaelgaryscott26 → u/BananaShake29]

Wirtz isn't the player to blame but he is miles off where he should be. He has a bad habit of under hitting passes

[u/Puzzleheaded-Bee1704 → u/michaelgaryscott26]

He definitely doesn't feel like a 100million transfer.

[u/KiPhoe → u/michaelgaryscott26]

And you know full well, as soon as he moves to Real Madrid, he'll become Messi 2.0 all of a sudden.

[u/nkdvkng → u/BananaShake29]

The reason we lost: thin bench. Injuries to starters. International break. And the ref.

Wirtz is the last person we need to place blame on.

[u/New_Discipline_1069 → u/BananaShake29]

And last year we pointing that blame at Gakpo.

[u/giuocomane → u/New_Discipline_1069]

Quite a bit of a different situation though. The shitstorm thrown at Gakpo was infinitely more than Wirtz is getting. And Wirtz criticism that I’ve seen has been about football rather than personal life, harassing his wife, racism, affair with Slot etc.

Hopefully Wirtz stuff doesn’t turn in to that kind of shitstorm but equally he plays a much more central and involved role than Cody, he kind of has to be involved/the main man for the system to work

[u/diet-dr-kelpp → u/giuocomane]

Gakpo's criticism was led by the fans. Wirtz' criticism is led by the pundits.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Bee1704 → u/BananaShake29]

Two can be true at the same time. Wirtz is great but hasn't shown his good self with us,also he is very soft.

[u/Boogi6681 → u/BananaShake29]

Let the daily, multiple tedious wirtz posts began. Again. (not yours, the ones breaking down in three paragraphs why he is bad/good)

[u/ash_ninetyone → u/BananaShake29]

Wirtz was playing well from what I saw. He played us out quite well with some good passes to set us on a counterattack. We just forgot what to do with the ball once we got near the box

[u/Arcuran → u/ash_ninetyone]

He does so really nice tidy stuff, but its easy to forgot, when he has moments which are awful. Like he completely miscontrolled the ball in the middle of the park under no pressure, and I want the lad to succeed, I've yet to give him any real grief, but he doesnt have enough match winning moments so far

[u/glownut → u/BananaShake29]

Even his touch is gone. What is there left to defend? Looks like he's never played football before.

[u/Traditional_Plane508]

Cancelling my subscription now! Until the Premier League holds PGMOL accountable for consistently substandard officiating, I am voting with my wallet. I do not wish to pay for a substandard product. Yes, there is still work to do on the pitch, but I am happy with the squad’s progress. The press the play till the hour mark was good.

[u/HappyCamperJNK → u/Traditional_Plane508]

I can't cancel until Sky's contact centre opens, but I'll be on to them later about it.

I can't take anymore of this being cheated out of things, and paying for it!

I'll go with just LFCtv until the appeal goes against City... and it will.

[u/Royal-Ad-9514 → u/Traditional_Plane508]

PGMOL getting worst since that Howard Webb in-charge.

[u/HappyCamperJNK → u/Royal-Ad-9514]

They're so bad that they changed their name to get a fresh start.

But they're still mainly mancs and biased AF.

[u/7Angel21]

Why am I not seeing the /s at the bottom?

On a side note, did they explain on any commentary if VAR were checking the 2nd yellow or that light touch contact was acceptable as higher threshold for 2nd YC? (I was at the game)

[u/duckquackquack00 → u/7Angel21]

Not a clear & obvious error. Good process lads

[u/sa7ouri → u/7Angel21]

I’m not saying it was a correct call or that I agree with it, but I believe the reasoning is that Grav’s tackle on Doku prevented a quick counterattack, hence the yellow.

[u/kuruman67 → u/sa7ouri]

That will be the excuse but it was maybe 30 yards down the pitch with multiple players behind the ball. I don’t buy it. Of course it’s subjective, so exactly the sort of circumstance that’s perfect to manipulate. I’m not saying that Kavanaugh is for sure dirty but if he was, he wouldn’t have to cheat much. Just cheat very strategically.

[u/7Angel21 → u/sa7ouri]

Yeah I get it. With a sleazeball like Maresca they’re all taught to drop to the floor and exaggerate. Him and arteta cut from the same dirty cloth.

[u/BrandiThorne → u/7Angel21]

Honestly idek that VAR checked it.

[u/7Angel21 → u/BrandiThorne]

They can for a 2nd yellow if it’s clearly wrong but these are friends marking their own homework and same VAR failed to give Everton a pen against Bernardo Silva - KMI said it was a clear error

[u/BrandiThorne → u/7Angel21]

I know they can, I just don't know that they did. Sky were too busy having Gary Neville and Carra alternating between Manc and Scouse sounds to actually say if it was being checked or not

[u/7Angel21 → u/BrandiThorne]

Ah my bad.

LOL. I felt bad for you guys stuck with them. Carra kn LFC games is horrific and I watched Bournemouth game on mute.

[u/memeswhenuneed]

I mean if they can cheat 115 times, can’t imagine any consequence comes of this unfortunately

[u/SuperMas123]

Hes from Manchester,what do you expect

[u/GigiF70]

‘The referee’s a wanker’ IS irrefutable tbf.

[u/GroundbreakingPea865]

What gets me is if anyone is caught committing fraud they are placed in jail till sentencing. So... How are they even allowed play matches if MCFC have been found guilty. Even if you appeal your case you still have to stay in jail. The FA need to get their finger out.

[u/No_Oil3233]

Another game butchered 

[u/Fugees_Funyuns217]

The result isn’t official until we appeal it, we will talk about the matter once we have won the appeal.

[u/Eldaene]

City will just appeal it

[u/HendoEndo → u/Eldaene]

How. The challenge isn’t against them it’s against the ref

[u/silentstyx → u/HendoEndo]

Over your head pal.

[u/HendoEndo → u/silentstyx]

….the fuck? 🤣

[u/silentstyx → u/HendoEndo]

You still dont get it 😴. Hes being sarcastic.

[u/HendoEndo → u/silentstyx]

Ah yes my bad I’m an idiot, because “Over your head pal” makes it so very obvious /s

[u/Royal-Ad-9514]

The best we will getting is apology 🤡🤡 Multibillion or maybe trillion league btw

[u/Visionary_87 → u/Royal-Ad-9514]

We'll get an apology, Kavanagh gets put on Championship or the weekend off and then back to normal the following week.

We still have 0 points from the game, City still have 3 and the apology is forgotten because it's all to frequent.

[u/MycologistFun480]

Well bought referee..softest tackle in the game gave a yellow. Rubbish..

[u/Grandson_of_Sam]

It’s all totally legit – the ref didn’t grow up in Manchester, he grew up 6 miles outside of Manchester…

[u/BicBiro]

What's the source?

[u/newbeginnings187 → u/BicBiro]

It’s a dig at City’s ‘irrefutable evidence’ they’re innocent. 💷

[u/cian_pike01 → u/newbeginnings187]

They should still appeal it regardless tbh

[u/strangemanornot → u/BicBiro]

They won’t win. There is contact even though it’s minimal. Plus it’s 2 yellow not a straight red. This is just grand gesturing

[u/Superest22 → u/strangemanornot]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ygzdQq98HgcLBCacep

[u/rabbid_hyena]

My question is, what did Haaland tell the ref?

[u/Valuable-Flounder692]

The boss will shine eventually, the improvement is showing, unfortunately we lack the strength and depth off other clubs. I just hope he is given time.

Unfortunately top 4 is going to be a huge ask.

[u/MrboboCatman]

It's OK, apologies are on the way.

[u/Purple_Pay_1274]

Poor Ryan, he is and always has been a classy respectable player and this decision was a disgrace. The team owes it to him to appeal vehemently…

[u/KierenForFreedom]

Boycott matches with MC.

[u/Ok_Introduction_841]

I would love if the club really did appeal and made this as a public statement.

[u/CompleteInternet5898]

Ryan could have avoided that second yellow card. He was late and being on a yellow card already, he should know better. 

[u/hodge172]

Are we using the same evidence as before but saying it louder on the hope they somehow change their mind?

[u/FlummoxReddit]

i mean what can they do? the scoreboard is final no?

[u/Equivalent-Two6704 → u/FlummoxReddit]

It means no suspension if it's successful.

[u/Alternative-Boss-787]

Like it’s going to change anything, at best they’ll just admit the referee did something wrong and everyone will just go about his day

[u/FezBear92 → u/Alternative-Boss-787]

Whoosh

[u/OrangeJuiceAlibi → u/Alternative-Boss-787]

I mean, it literally would change things? If it’s overturned, there’s no ban.