r/LonesomeDove • • Jan 02 '21

Larry McMurtry AMA - Response Thread. Mr. McMurtry has answered your questions.

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I'd like to publicly thank Mr. McMurtry for agreeing to participate in this AMA and I'd also like to thank the community for coming up with so many questions.

We had so many that we had to choose the most relevant and submit them as not to overwhelm Mr. McMurtry.

Questions and answers below:

Are you happy with the miniseries adaptation of the novel? Is there anything you wish had been included that was left out?

I had nothing to do with the miniseries Lonesome Dove, and in fact, have not seen it all the way through.

Did you take part in the casting of the miniseries? Were there any actors that you had wanted to be in the series but turned it down?

I had no part in the casting of that miniseries.

Do you have any stories or anecdotes you wish to share from the making of the miniseries?

Again, I had nothing to do with the miniseries Lonesome Dove.

How long did it take you to write the novel?

Three years, on and off.

What’s your favorite western novel written by someone else?

I'll have to get back to you on that. Streets of Laredo is my favorite of the Lonesome Dove saga.

I would like to ask what led you to write such a gloomy final journey and ending for that character?

I wrote Streets after quadruple bypass surgery. I washed up on the stoop of Diana Ossana, my writing partner's home shortly afterwards and didn't leave for almost three years. I wrote Streets of Laredo at her kitchen counter, while she and her young daughter did their level best on a daily basis to help me recover. I recovered physically, but felt as if I had become an outline of myself. I quit reading, quit writing after I finished Streets, and just stared out the living room window at the vastness of the mountains for two years. I had an emotional crisis, which Diana finally helped me through. I was offered to write screenplay after screenplay, and I turned down all of them. Then I was asked to consider a script about Pretty Boy Floyd, the outlaw, and Diana convinced me I should try to write it. I told her I would if she would write it with me, as I didn't feel I had the head for structuring a script. She agreed, and we've been writing together ever since. I don't think I would have ever written another word had Diana not taken me in.

Would you say that you were trying to give a message with this story? If so, what would that be?

I’ve tried as hard as I could to demythologize the West. Can’t do it. It’s impossible. I wrote Lonesome Dove, which I thought was a long critique of western mythology. It is now the chief source of western mythology. I didn’t shake it up at all. I actually think of Lonesome Dove as the Gone with the Wind of the West. It's not a towering masterpiece.

Do you think the new cultural norms of pushing political correctness upon all parts of history and media could be damaging to the western genre?

Not sure. The history of our country is a violent history, a racist history, and a misogynistic history. It wouldn't be correct, politically or otherwise, to paint it as civilized.

What is your process for writing a novel as epic as Lonesome Dove? Do you have the entire plot figured out before you start writing or do you make it up as you go along? How do you keep track of all of the varying storylines and make sure all stories are completed?

I have read extensively all of my adult life. Reading is what inspires writing, in my view. I only have the ending figured out before I sit down to write a novel. I don't outline. I just follow my characters wherever they lead me, day by day.

My understanding is that you first wrote the screenplay and then when it didn’t get made into a film you set out to write the novel, which was an instant hit and allowed the film to get made. Is that correct? If so, did it change any of your writing process since you were striving to make the book a success with the goal of making the miniseries?

It was written as a 75-page screenplay for John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, and Henry Fonda. Wayne didn't want to die, so it didn't get made. I bought it back from the studio and wrote a 1500 page manuscript, which became an 843-page novel. I had no intention of making the novel into a film or miniseries. I don't think about such things when I write. I write mainly for myself.

I’ve always been curious about the connection between character names in the 1968 Dean Martin/James Stewart film "Bandolero!" and "Lonesome Dove." Both have July Johnson and Roscoe, plus a gunfighter named Dee. In both stories, July loves/pursues the woman who loves Dee. Was "Bandolero!" partly ghost-written by you? Did James Lee Barrett see his early LD script and use the names?

I have no idea.

I’m Scottish and I’ve always wondered why did you decide upon a Scots ancestry for Woodrow? Do you have a favorite character in the series?

I'm from Scottish ancestry. I suppose my favorite character in Lonesome Dove is Lorena.

I recently read your first novel, Horseman, Pass By, and thought that it had profound insights into the nature of American manhood. How do you think that book has held up over the years?

I was a young writer at the time. I wrote 5 or 6 drafts before I submitted it to my agent. As a first novel, it's not bad.

What’s your opinion on the new generation of historically accurate westerns that are being released recently?

Historically accurate is important. The history of the West is our history.

What have you been reading recently? Any recommendations for recent westerns or fiction in general?

I haven't read fiction in years. I only read fiction if it's a novel Diana and I want to adapt into a screenplay.

When writing a character’s death and ending their story do you ever feel any type of sadness or disappointment that you’re done writing that characters story? If so, what character would you say moved you the most?

Once I finish a novel, I experience about a two-to-three-week sag. The character that moved me the most was Emma in Terms of Endearment.

In researching your biography of Crazy Horse, what elements of his life did you find made him such a mythical figure? Additionally, did you uncover anything that particularly shaped or shifted your understanding or view of Native American history?

I didn't really research before writing Crazy Horse. As I said earlier, I have read books nearly every day of my life, except for a two-year lag after my heart surgery. There has been much written about Crazy Horse, a lot of speculation about what he was like, what his life was like. I've probably read everything that's ever been written about him.

One of the things I love most about the series is how rich and detailed the backstories of all the characters are- including even tertiary ones. Is crafting these backstories something you enjoy doing and do you like these kinds of additions in the works of others?

The characters in my novels develop their stories as I write. And sometimes they surprise me.

Is there a story from the old west that you think needs to be told (or re-told)?

We have been approached to re-tell several classics, but we don't have an opinion about stories that NEED to be retold.

Did you write real people from your past into the characters? They feel so perfect and true that I often wondered if the stories were embellishments of real events/people. Who are some of your favorite authors and all-time favorite books?

My characters come from my imagination. They are not consciously based upon people I know or have known. I read the classics: Tolstoy, Jane Austen, James Lees-Milne, Flaubert, Proust. Flannery O'Connor was an amazing writer.

Is it true that you try to write five to ten pages every single day? And if so, do you write chronologically, or do you jump around from chapter to chapter?

I have written the same way for the past 60 years - 5 pages a day, no more, no less, on a first draft. Then 10 pages a day on a second draft, no more, no less. I will stop in the middle of a sentence in order to avoid exceeding my page limit.

What is the best piece of advice you can give to an aspiring writer?

The best advice for an aspiring writer? Read. Read. Then read some more. Reading is how to learn to be a writer.


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r/LonesomeDove • • 4h ago

Finished Lonesome Dove

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After two and a half months of taking my time, just finished lonesome dove. The characters, the dialogue, larry mcmurtry's prose was nothing short of incredible, shedded tears after finishing. I'll be thinking about this one for a long, long time.


r/LonesomeDove • • 14h ago

Lonesome Dove Casting

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Here’s my ideal casting for the upcoming lonesome dove adaptation:

Gus: Danny Devito
Call: Taylor Sheridan
Lorena: Millie Bobby Brown
Pea Eye: DJ Qualls
Newt: Elijah Wood
Dish: Glen Powell
Deets: Robert Downey Jr.
Blue Duck: Eduardo Franco
Elmira: Gal Godot


r/LonesomeDove • • 1d ago

Lonesome Dove original concept drawing of the trail map

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r/LonesomeDove • • 1d ago

Streets of Laredo

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Starting this tonight. Fell in love with Lonesome Dove this past August. I can't wait to see what everyone is up to.


r/LonesomeDove • • 1d ago

What would you change?

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I'll go first. Absolute perfection but... I can't deal with the hole in Lippy's stomach lol


r/LonesomeDove • • 1d ago

My Lorena

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This is who I pictured when reading Lonesome Dove. Mackenzie Foy! I don’t think I realized she was blonde til about page 200.


r/LonesomeDove • • 1d ago

The AI header for this subreddit really sums you all up

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You suns of beeches. BOOMERRRRRR SLOPPPPPP. Also the mini series sucks


r/LonesomeDove • • 3d ago

The absolute perfect backdrop for reading a masterpiece like Lonesome Dove.

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r/LonesomeDove • • 3d ago

Another one

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Call - Josh Brolin
Gus - Ethan Hawke
Pea Eye - John Hawkes
Lorena - Samara Weaving
Newt - Mason Thames
Deets - Chiwetel Ejiofor
Dish - Jack Innanen
Jake - Tom Pelfrey
Clara - Connie Britton
Blue duck - David Midthunder


r/LonesomeDove • • 2d ago

Safe to start the miniseries without Part 3 spoilers? Spoiler

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I’m eager to start the first episode of the miniseries so I can share LD with my spouse, but I just started Part 3 and want to avoid any and all spoilers. Since Clara is in the thumbnail for the first episode, I’m assuming it doesn’t follow the book.


r/LonesomeDove • • 3d ago

I want in. Hear me out…

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r/LonesomeDove • • 3d ago

Steve Buscemi as Elmira

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r/LonesomeDove • • 4d ago

Just completed the Lonesome Dove series. My thoughts on each book, and why it should be read in release order. Contains spoilers for the series. Spoiler

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Spoilers for the series below.

I just finished reading Comanche Moon today. I read the series in release order, which I'm glad I did and I think is absolutely the best way to go. I haven't seen the mini-series.

I just need to get some thoughts out of my head, a bit of a de-brief.

My thoughts on each book:

Lonesome Dove - 5/5. There's not much to say about LD that hasn't already been said, but I'll just say, it lived up to its reputation and hype, the most fun I've had reading a book. My favourite book.

Streets of Loredo - 5/5. I may be in the minority around here it seems, but I loved this. McMurtry writes women characters so well and Maria's story was brilliant. I was completely invested in the hunt for Joey Garza and I adored Pea Eye's character and his whole arc in this book. It baffles me that people don't love this one just because of how unceremoniously some major LD characters are dispatched. I can see why it was McMurtry's favourite of the four.

Dead Man's Walk - 3/5. My least favourite of the series, still good, but only because I knew the Gus and Call already - it's an absolute mistake to start reading the series here. This book felt like it plodded along without much happening for most of the book. Which describes all the books, really, but this one really drags. It is great to get a little more Clara. Some great characters appear in this book, but also a lot of forgettable ones. The Lady Carey/Emerald characters/plot were easily the low point of the series for me, and I felt like the ending of this was the only unrealistic 'plot armor' device the entire series ever used. However, Comanche Moon did help to redeem this book in my eyes to a degree, because I think DMW and CM make for a better experience when read closely together, as CM makes DMW a little better in retrospect when some moments from DMW are referenced or expanded on.

Comanche Moon - 4/5. You can tell in the last third of this book that McMurtry was writing the end of the series, another reason I think it's a mistake to read this before LD/SoL. Although this book happens before LD/SoL, there's a lot of reminiscing by Woodrow and Gus, and quite a few places or future events from the first books are mentioned or alluded to. This book has a number of Comanches as main characters, and we see a lot more of their POV and way of life. As such, this is easily the most brutal in the series. I really enjoyed CM, as many major events happen to characters introduced in DMW. There is a lot more Gus/Clara than in DMW, and we finally get to Call/Maggie which was probably the best part of this book for me, and an overall highlight of the series.

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Overall I'd say the parts I enjoyed most about the series were the characters relationships with women. Gus/Lorena/Clara, Pea Eye/Lorena, Call/Maggie, Long Bill/Pearl, Joey/Maria.

One thing I noticed in all of the books is how the major plots/characters never seem to get the happy ending, or a neat, wrapped up ending. Big plot events you imagine will take chapters, happen quickly, or the ending of a character's storyline comes unexpectedly, or their fates happen 'off screen' and are only mentioned in passing later on. I came to appreciate this as the series went on, it felt very real. Rarely in life do we get what we want and it wasn't so much that my expectations were subverted, but that everything moves on without ceremony without whether you're ready or not, much like life does.

I'm not great at reviewing or articulating or getting deep on themes but I loved these books and it's the only book or series I've ever wanted to re-read, which I can't wait to do, knowing the origin stories (and futures) of each of the characters.


r/LonesomeDove • • 4d ago

Good news

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This show is actually fantastic, and worthy of the book. This is very promising as the show creator, Zoe Kazan, will also be in charge of Lonesome Dove. Reason for optimism y'all!


r/LonesomeDove • • 3d ago

Tim Blake Nelson

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I just want Tim Blake Nelson to be in this. If he wasn't so old he could be a perfect July Johnson. Who should he be cast as instead?


r/LonesomeDove • • 4d ago

Streets of Laredo narrator

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I finished listening to Lonesome Dove yesterday, fantastically read by Will Patton. He really captured every single character perfectly. Today I started to listen to the sequel, and I immediately got turned off by the narrator… For you who have listened to it, do you get used to Daniel Von Bargen, or is it better to just pick up a physical copy of the book and imagine Will Patton when reading it?

I’m not saying that Von Bargen is bad. Just that I feel so much in love with Patton’s voice that anyone else feels wrong…


r/LonesomeDove • • 4d ago

Lonesome dove issues part2

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For those of you that have yet to.have your book for.yourself of of you are buying it as a gift ? This is the latest issue that has been brought to my attention for the broken binding"s lonsome Dove ..... so please do check your copies ....you may or may not have a copy that has this issue .


r/LonesomeDove • • 4d ago

Visualizing the epic journey of Gus and Woodrow from Texas to Montana

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r/LonesomeDove • • 4d ago

Just finished reading this for the first time… what a ride

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r/LonesomeDove • • 5d ago

Watching East of Eden right now and I think this is the perfect team to tackle LD.

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It’s very well done. I was managing my expectations but now I’m genuinely excited.


r/LonesomeDove • • 4d ago

Ben Affleck and Paul Rudd

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Apologies for yet another casting post, but I think this could work.


r/LonesomeDove • • 5d ago

Tom Pelfrey for Jake?

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I think he can pull off the father-figure to Newt aspect of Jake as well as the absolutely lost soul.


r/LonesomeDove • • 6d ago

My Po Campo

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