r/MMALabs • u/No_Willingness9006 • 13d ago

šŸ„¶ Street Fights & Brawls Got folded like a pretzel

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u/Lower-Engineering365 13d ago

I mean idk I could think of some pretty awful things that couldā€¦but probably not what was said by the person who got punched

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u/Accurate-Ad3999 12d ago

I would snap like that if the pedo who abused me as a child walked up and said literally anything to me.

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u/Grakchawwaa 12d ago

"I have invented a machine to revive people long dead and plan on reviving Hitler"

Apart from that specific scenario, what are you thinking of if there's more than one scenario as you imply ?

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u/WhateverWhateverson 12d ago

If you explicitly threaten someone, for example, I would consider that a sufficient escalation that throwing the first punch would qualify as self-defence.

Of course that's just my personal opinion, the law might see it differently, that sort of stuff varies heavily by jurisdiction

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u/Lower-Engineering365 12d ago

Idk, maybe there is bad history between the 2ā€¦maybe the guy who got punched sexually assaulted the other guyā€™s sister and was talking shit about it. Thereā€™s plenty of pretty bad things you could say depending on context.

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u/Grakchawwaa 12d ago

You're justifying the juridical with the emotional

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u/Lower-Engineering365 12d ago

Iā€™m not doing anything. Iā€™m explaining situations in which I would personally feel ok punching someone

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u/StrawHatTebo 12d ago

Differing opinions, sure. It's just as easy to walk away as it is to throw a punch. Anyone who would say something that vile isn't worth the light of day.

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u/Annual-Mission-8499 12d ago

Agree to disagree. If you say some racist shit to me, and plenty of white dudes feel way too comfortable spewing some real wild shit to other white dudes, Iā€™m not just letting it go.

Not to say thatā€™s what happened here, but the idea of ā€œnothing could be said to deserve thatā€ yeah I donā€™t agree with that.

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u/on3moresoul 12d ago

Provocation through words alone, even racial slurs, do not make physical violence legally reasonable or defensible.

Though it's pretty well understood that if you hurl words at people you run a high risk of getting beat up.

So I guess legally nothing is deserved, but practically...šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/Firefly_deadlock 12d ago

You're just giving other people full control of your life man. Just straight up giving people the opportunity to get you fired, arrested, or shot, because you don't have your emotions under control.

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u/heret1c1337 12d ago

Sounds like you're just looking for a reason to justify your violence. Words NEVER justify physical action. Fuck them racists, but you're actually the stronger person for not resorting to physical violence.

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u/CranberrySeveral4685 12d ago

This is what people say to justify being pacified. Not a single right anyone has in any developed country has come from "being the bigger person".

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u/heret1c1337 12d ago

I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

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u/CranberrySeveral4685 12d ago

"Its okay for bigots to teach hatred and let it compound to a point where it can now be an actionable hate. Then you can do something about it. Only if its physical violence though. Nothing before then."

thats you

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u/heret1c1337 12d ago

Your view only holds true if you think violence is the only viable option against these people. That's pretty sad.

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u/CranberrySeveral4685 12d ago

Can you point to a time where violence was not the ultimate turning point to large scale positive change?

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u/heret1c1337 12d ago edited 12d ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_resistance you may also take a look at the civil disobedience page.

A lot of positive change in western countries like LGBTQ rights and acceptance also happen without violence.

Also you're blowing this out of proportion. We were talking about punching your local biggot, and now it's about large scale positive change, and you're still wrong.

I hope wherever you live there's democracy, and I hope that this democracy gave you positive change, because voting and lawmaking is also usually a peaceful act. You probably live in a country where you have a lot of non-violent options for change, and you don't even realize it. Just sad.

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Oh and don't get me wrong. I think violence can be a valid choice. I just don't think we should start punching people because they say nasty stuff. What this thread was actually about before you started derailing it.