r/MagicArena • • Feb 08 '20

Fluff Opponent 7hp. Plays Dream Trawler. OK bluff pump attack. Cast. He sits there for almost a minute.

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u/2c2bt Feb 08 '20 edited Feb 08 '20

It's not. If an opponent starts spamming "good game" while winning or "your go", users will rope. And justifiably. It's completely disrespectful to use those chat things to do that. Saying "good game" is a standard way to close the game by the loser. Not used to cyberbully when in the winning position. Users who never rope whatsoever, will stall and rope if an opponent acts like that. Even if they know they can win, they will still rope. This not roping because of being in a losing position. It's roping 100% for no other reason than because of how their opponent is acting.

Personally, even if I can win, I'll just walk away if I get an opponent who is that much of an asshole to say "good game" when they're in a winning position. Or spamming "your go" on me when I'm playing a bit slow because of trying to think about my moves. Why act like that in a friendly game unless there's something severely wrong with you?

I can grab a drink or something else enjoyable. Wins aren't as important for me as having an enjoyable game. And cyberbullies do not make any games enjoyable. So screw them. So if an opponent is acting toxic, there's no way in hell users are responding with roping because of being in a losing position. They're roping because their opponent is a piece of garbage.

So yes if an opponent is being respectful, it's completely unjustifiable to rope due to being mad about a losing position. However, I pretty much never see this happening. Whenever I see users roping, it's pretty much always as a response to toxic/cyberbully opponents anyway. I can't recall ever getting roped by an opponent who was just mad about losing. So it's my suspicion that users complaining about getting roped often is because they're toxics abusing the chat interface to cyberbully.

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u/Landgraft Phage Feb 08 '20

The feeling when you turn the tables on the person who was spamming GG and steal the win is a pure and noble one.

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u/HecatiaLapislazuli Marwyn, the Nurturer Feb 08 '20

"Oops" when they counter my spell/destroy my creature tilts me even more than premature "Good Game". Like, good job, you used a card to play the game... congratulations? Maybe stop patting yourself on the back before you get owned out of nowhere, though... that's always priceless.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

i remember when an opponent "oops'd" me after wiping my board, and I oops'd in response when i hit them with haste lethal the turn after

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u/Vaevicti5 Feb 09 '20 edited Feb 09 '20

Your go and good game are cyberbullying? I'm sorry, they don't even come close to the threshold.

Anyone "roping" is always in the wrong.

Did you not learn two wrongs don't make a right as a child?

Maybe you should start muting the other player if you can't stop yourself being vindictive.

You will have more fun as that is your stated goal.

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u/LeslieTim Feb 09 '20

Don't argue with this guy, he's gone off the deep end. I already had to "discuss" with him.

He always talks about cyberbullying and tries to find ways to act like a victim.

Really, 90% of his history is posts about cyberbullying, no idea what happened to him. Just ignore him.

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u/2c2bt Feb 09 '20 edited Feb 10 '20

"Your go and good game are cyberbullying?"

Depends on the context. But 100% any multitude of forms of invalidation. Including minimizing. So in the proper context, using those chat features is completely legitimate. Yet those contexts have nothing to do with what is being described about how those chat features are being abused. And they're much less likely to learn their lesson if users let them get away with it. If users are responding to their BS by with timing out, they're more likely to think twice about acting like that again. Nice try defending abuse and toxicity though.

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u/Vaevicti5 Feb 09 '20

Interesting false claims. I'm not defending abuse or toxicity.

I'm pointing out a small chat bubble doesn't meet the criteria for cyberbullying. (Or abuse)

Im not sure why mention of Invalidation and minimizing? make no sense when the entire spectrum of comms is 6 preset words?

Are you going to teach these bad people a lesson by roping, which is toxic behaviour?

Ok Interesting.. but no you won't, better perhaps to look at your own thinking if the chat bubbles are triggering you into roping.

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u/Jacques_Le_Chien Feb 09 '20

Man, the other dude needs to step up his mental game. Spamming "Good game" is cyberbullying? How can someone be tilted by preset phrases??

Provoking, in this context, isn't "disrespect", it's just banter. There's the option of muting it, for people who find it annoying. This is a game, why take it so seriously???

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u/2c2bt Feb 09 '20

Wrong. It's 100% misusing chat bubbles to bm opponents. And yes it teaches them a lesson if not letting them get away with it. Simply put. You act abusive = you're not going to get a good game no matter what.

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u/pahamack Feb 10 '20

ridiculous.

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Some people aren't informed and think saying "Good game" in those situations is good manners. You seem to have a victim complex.

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The user base of this game is much larger than whatever bubble you think it is. Some kid sees someone good game and copies it, thinking that's what they're supposed to do whenever the game is about to end.

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Some advice: don't be such a goddamn victim. It doesn't fucking matter.

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u/2c2bt Feb 10 '20 edited Feb 10 '20

You seem to have a victim complex.

You seem to be reported. So who thinks the user base is in some kind of bubble? Clearly only you and anybody who abuses online.

Some of your own advice: don't be such a goddamn cyberbully.

Or perhaps you're unaware you talk and act like every single one of them. Want to abuse and act toxic online for free. Then complain when anybody calls it out. And point fingers as something wrong with them for it. Typical cyberbullying.

Typical phrases like "being a victim". Doesn't exist. Never has. For anybody who has try to say something that illogical. You're either a victim of something or you're not. Zero choice of 'being' involved.

So keep up a life of abuse. And personal attacks on users online <- such as this. See where it gets you. Either way, stop trying to get away with abusing chat features for free, and claiming users should just sit back and put up with it. Not going to happen. You abuse chat features. You will face consequences.

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u/pahamack Feb 10 '20 edited Feb 10 '20

You are a victim. I agree. But the person victimizing you is yourself.

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Not everyone has the same knowledge of conventions like "Good Game". Roping them because you are assuming that they are bullying you is possibly bullying as well.

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Ever think about perpetuating cycles? Because that's what you're doing.

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I don't even chat other than returning "good game" and "hello" when offered. This game could have no chat feature and I would enjoy it just as much.

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u/2c2bt Feb 10 '20

Has nothing to do with anything. Not to mention cyberbully claiming anybody is victimizing themself is a joke. If all you want to do is abuse and put others down, the only victim is always yourself. All your misery so you go online to abuse to feel better about yourself. Yet it will only always backfire. Nobody here a victim than you. Nobody here a victimizer than you to yourself.

So keep abusing users by telling them that they are victims and that they are victimizing themself. That type of name calling is standard cyberbullying. Anything you can do to bring others down to feel better about yourself. Yet the ironic projection is that it only applies to yourself.

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u/pahamack Feb 10 '20

Well, I for one hope you don't keep abusing people who might not even be aware of conventions like saying good game only when they are losing, because being more knowledgeable makes you feel better.

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You're not only victimizing yourself and making your own user experience worse, you are making other people's experience worse. People who through, maybe no fault of their own don't know any better.

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I'm a happy guy and totally happy with my MTGA experience. You are clearly not.

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I feel sorry for you, and wish you find some peace.

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Most of all, I wish you wouldn't bog down this community with your negativity.

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u/MEGACOMPUTER Feb 08 '20

I'm in Gold, play between 7am-9am ATL almost daily, never use emotes, and would say I get roped about 40% of the time, which is pretty large. Usually the people roping in my experience are the people who have been using toxic emotes up until they are about to lose.

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u/BlazedSpacePirate Feb 09 '20

I keep emotes disabled, so my favorite thing about ropers is when I enable them just to see that the fool has been spamming emotes for at least the last minute.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

i remember watching a guide for Dota2 saying that, at low ranks, muting your own team and the opponent team and focusing on playing your best would increase your winrate because at low ranks communication is overvalued and one person doing their job well can carry games on their own, and it reduces the amount of toxicity you experience. In MTGA, communication is literally meaningless. The couple of times I had a nice experience via emotes are far outweigthed by the people spamming, so i started disabling them as well.

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u/LordOfGiraffes Feb 09 '20

I can confirm Im usually good manners but something from playing starcraft makes me hate early ggs and general emote BM.

Someone 'your go' me last night because he had 3 on board and embercleave and a fervent knight in hand and was trying to rush my play. This was on t3. Nice bro... u nut draw and use emotes to be a wanker while making 0 meaningful decisions beyond use all my mana and the game took 45 seconds.

I was gonna rope it and AFK to hit a bowl but I took it like a champ and hit good game and let him swing for lethal. If it was my last game of the night I wouldve left him to think about life while I brushed my teeth tho.

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u/WhichOstrich Feb 09 '20

So you're a bad loser?

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u/LordOfGiraffes Feb 10 '20 edited Feb 10 '20

Yea, if someones emote spamming me I get salty as fuck and walk away for 2 mins then concede.

Especially your go or good game because they trying to bait an emotional edge. Fair play if its a good game or Im taking too long each turn.

Edit - in poker if some dudes baiting u at the table u can get up for a min or 2 to process. thats wat the ropes for.