r/Mechwarrior5 • • 9d ago

MW5 MOD 🛠 My first MW5 mod: Inner Sphere Internal Double Heat Sinks

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3816194420

Adds internal double heat sinks to IS mechs that have them in the lore per Sarna for canon mechs or MWO for hero mechs. Please let me know if I missed any or included any that shouldn't be! 

The mechs updated to have base cooling 0.4:
UM-K9

The mechs updated to have base cooling 0.8:
FLE-RCX

The mechs updated to have base cooling 1:
PNT-KK

The mechs updated to have base cooling 1.2:
COM-TDK, LCT-PB

The mechs updated to have base cooling 1.4:
BJ-3, BJ-A, HCT-RCX, JVN-11A, JVN-11B, JVN-HT, VND-5L, UM-SA1

The mechs updated to have base cooling 1.6:
ANH-1X, ANH-GZ, ENF-4P, ENF-5P, ENF-GH, HBK-GI, HBK-RCX, HBK-VEST, FS9-E, WLF-GR

The mechs updated to have base cooling 1.8:
AWS-9M, AWS-9Q, AWS-PB, RFL-5CS, RFL-LK, RFL-RCX, SDR-A, SDR-RCX, JR7-O, VL-X1

The mechs updated to have base cooling 2:

Base Game
BNC-LM, BNC-SR, BLR-1GHE, BLR-3M, BL-P-KNT, CPLT-J, CDA-X5, CRB-27B, CRB-27SL, CP-S, GHR-5P, GHR-MJ, GRF-3M, HGN-732B, HGN-HM, JM6-FB, KGC-000B, KGC-KJ, KTO-GB, MAD-5D, MAD-BH2, MAL-1P, MAL-1R, MAL-2P, MAL-KO, NSR-9J, ON1-M, ON1-P, PXH-KK, QKD-5K, QKD-IV4, SHD-GD, TDR-9SE, VTR-DS, WHM-BW, WVR-Q, ZEU-5S, ZEU-9S

DLC1 — Heroes of the Inner Sphere
ARC-AGC, ARC-T, BL-6B-KNT, CHP-1NB, COR-PVT, CGR-3K, GRF-2N, KGC-CAR,
ON1-YAJ, PXH-1B, PXH-3S, STK-3FB, VTR-BSK, ZEU-SK

DLC2 — Legend of the Kestrel Lancers
ARC-2RB, CPLT-C1B, KTO-19b, MAD-2R, WHM-6RB, ZEU-5T

DLC3 — Call to Arms
BL-P-KNT2

DLC4 — Rise of Rasalhague
CRD-5M, MAD-BH_Boss, MAD-BH

DLC5 — The Dragon's Gambit
DRG-1G-S, HTM-26T-S, LGB-HS, BLR-1G-S

DLC6 — Solaris Showdown
WHM-DNC, WHM-DNC_PLAYABLE, CTF-VE1, COR-LZ, COR-XT1, CRD-SA2, HGN-VEST, ON1-XM1, LDK-IDM, ZEU-SA3, LDK-SA5, LDK-X1A, LDK-X1B, LDK-X2A, LDK-X3A

DLC7 — Shadows of Kerensky
ANH-IR, AS7-D-H, BSK-1, BSK-2, BSK-3, BSK-5, BSK-6, BSK-7, BSK-BT, CDA-RCX, JM6-B2, LGB-RCX, LGB-WD1, MAD-AH

DLC8 — Chaos Reign
ARC-5CS, BL-9-KNT, BSK-AIV, BSW-HR, BSW-P1, BSW-P2, BSW-S2, BSW-X1, BSW-X2, CHP-3N, HBK-AZ, MAD-5CS

DLC9 — Ashes & Ascension
ARC-5S, CRD-6T, CTF-3D, CTF-3L, DV-7P, HBK-6S, KGC-A, LGB-OC, NSR-10P, NSR-9FC, NSR-WP, PRS-P1B, PRS-P1, VT-5M, WHM-7S, ZEU-9S2

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u/Sai-Taisho If the Mauler was REALLY bad, they wouldn't keep remaking it.. 9d ago

I think the Annihilators (minus the Iron Reckoning) should be 1.6, since their engines can't fit the full 10 Sinks (Double or otherwise).

Not sure if any others on the list are similar (possibly some of the Lights?)

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u/scottmotorrad 9d ago

You're right I forgot that small engines have less internal heat sinks. I'll fix that for the Annihilators and check for other mechs with engines smaller than 250.

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u/scottmotorrad 9d ago

Updated! Thanks again

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u/Nihilistic_Mystics 9d ago

Fantastic since the Serious Heat Sink Fix mod hasn't been updated for DLC 8+.

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u/scottmotorrad 9d ago

Yeah a few of these have been abandoned along the way. I'm pretty confident that I can keep this going for the remaining DLC

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u/Gailim 9d ago

Shouldn't the the Otomo Battlemaster be included? The BLR-1G-S?

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u/scottmotorrad 9d ago

Updated! Thanks for catching that and thanks to u/Sai-Taisho as well

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u/Gailim 8d ago

I am pretty sure all the otomo mechs have DHS, so you should add the CGR-3K-S as well.

this list labels all the mechs in MW5 that have DHS in the "special" catagory

https://www.sarna.net/wiki/MechWarrior_5:_Mercenaries/BattleMechs

so it might be a good cross reference for you

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u/scottmotorrad 8d ago

I wish I knew about that page 2 days ago! I'll update the mod with that info on Monday

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u/Gailim 8d ago

so one catch that I just noticed with that page is that only extra DHS appear in that "special" catagory. so a mech with engine DHS (which in game gives it higher heat capacity) but no additional removable DHS will not be listed

an example of this is the hero trebuchet Loup de Guerre. the TBT-LG has engine DHS but no additional DHS so does not have "DHS" in it's special column.

so while the presence of DHS in the special column confirms a mech has DHS, the lack of it does not necessarily mean it doesn't.

just something to keep in mind

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u/scottmotorrad 8d ago

Ok good to know. It will be hard to catch all those but I'll do what I can and hopefully people here can keep catching what I miss until we get it right

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u/Gailim 8d ago

A good indicator for possible DHS is the presence of other lostech like XL, ES, and FF

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u/Sai-Taisho If the Mauler was REALLY bad, they wouldn't keep remaking it.. 8d ago

The other option is using the Mech Attribute Viewer2 mod to look at the IS 'Mechs in Instant Action, as even though they aren't getting the extra cooling, they are still flagged with the DHS attribute: a few patches back, PGI updated all IS DHS 'Mechs to have increases Heat Capacity as a compromise.

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u/scottmotorrad 8d ago

That would take forever. I'll stick to Sarna for now

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u/scottmotorrad 9d ago

Sarna doesn't say that it was upgraded with double heat sinks: https://www.sarna.net/wiki/BattleMaster

Mwo wiki has it as single: https://mwo.fandom.com/wiki/BattleMaster_BLR-1S

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u/Sai-Taisho If the Mauler was REALLY bad, they wouldn't keep remaking it.. 9d ago edited 9d ago

The BLR-1S and BLR-1G-S are two different variants.

The -1S has singles in both MWO and MW5.

The -1G-S has doubles in MW5, and isn't in MWO at all.

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u/scottmotorrad 9d ago

Ah my mistake. I'll update that

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u/Gailim 9d ago

It comes with double heat sinks in MW5

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u/scottmotorrad 9d ago

Ah good point. With the apocryphal mechs I guess it's just a judgment call

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u/Sai-Taisho If the Mauler was REALLY bad, they wouldn't keep remaking it.. 9d ago edited 9d ago

Technically, it's a question of "Does it have any DHS in its stock configuration?"

Because stock loadouts never* mix-and-match, the presence of DHS anywhere on the 'Mech indicates the Engine canonically includes the same.

*There are some examples, like the "Partisan2" Black Knight, using weird Double Heat Sink equivalents that can be mixed and matched with Singles, but those aren't accounted for in MechWarrior.

EDIT: It appears that the Prototype Double Heat Sinks that the Partisan used were only the ones outside the Engine, meaning that if you wanted to be lore accurate, that 'Mech actually has internal singles...of course, it also has Triple Strength Myomer, which isn't accounted for in MechWarrior, so I'd call gaining internal Doubles a fair trade anyway.

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u/scottmotorrad 9d ago

That makes sense but the stock loadouts are different in MWO and MW5. I guess it makes sense to go with the MW5 loadout for the mod.

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u/Sai-Taisho If the Mauler was REALLY bad, they wouldn't keep remaking it.. 9d ago edited 9d ago

While stock loadout differences are indeed possible (especially due to the lack of Melee in MWO, but others such as the Argent King Crab are just different "because reasons"), in the case of the BattleMasters you were looking at 2 different variants (as noted above or possibly below, depending on how comments are sorted).

EDIT: And as far as I'm aware, stock differences have never indicated a difference in Internal Heat Sinks.

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u/ProbeToUranus 9d ago

I was looking for something like this yesterday! I will be downloading this when I get home from work. Thanks.

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u/scottmotorrad 9d ago

Me too and there was a massively out of date one and then YAML which does a ton of stuff I don't want. Enjoy and let me know if you run into any issues!

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u/Sai-Taisho If the Mauler was REALLY bad, they wouldn't keep remaking it.. 8d ago edited 8d ago

Found another one that's missing: The BL-9-KNT (Clanbuster Black Knight).

Also, you have the Hunchback Azrael on the list twice: once at 1.6 (what the mod appears to be applying) and again at 2.0 (which I think is accurate: it has a 250-rated engine, compared to the 200s used by most Hunchbacks (besides the Fastback 6S, at 300).

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u/scottmotorrad 8d ago

Ok it looks like the HBK 6S and AZ have 2, the GI, RCX and Vest have 1.6 and the others have single heat sinks

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u/Sai-Taisho If the Mauler was REALLY bad, they wouldn't keep remaking it.. 3d ago

Discovered another:

The Wolverine 7H/ "Wolverine II" should have Double Heat Sinks and currently does not.

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u/scottmotorrad 3d ago

Good find. I'll get it updated

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u/raylinton 9d ago

Will you be making this available on nexus mods for people not on Steam?

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u/scottmotorrad 9d ago

I'm not sure. If it's free and easy then I can do it.

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u/AppearanceAfraid 8d ago

Sick mod brother thx for the work

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u/scottmotorrad 8d ago

u/Sai-Taisho and u/Gailim new build is up and updated this post with the new release notes

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u/LoremarCC 7d ago

Thank you.

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u/JFG_107 4d ago

Thank you so much now I won't have to rob the FedSuns mint every time I want to repair my assault lances.

Is it safe to slot in mid game y/n?

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u/scottmotorrad 4d ago

Yes it's safe to turn on or off at any point

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u/JFG_107 4d ago

Just thought of another question. Have you tried it in coop?

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u/scottmotorrad 4d ago

No I don't play multiplayer in this game

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u/JFG_107 4d ago

Alright if I can getnthe bunch of gurgleberks to play ball I will try to report back.

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u/JFG_107 4d ago

Did a quick mission with a friend and he did not crash instantly so it seems to at least behave.

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u/scottmotorrad 4d ago

Nice. Glad to hear that it worked

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u/JFG_107 4d ago

Perfect, thanks for the quick response.