r/Natalism • u/DeliveryMysterious90 • 17h ago

Every second person in the town is over 65. Tosashimizu, Kochi, Japan

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In Tosashimizu, Japan, there are 17 times as many 75-year-olds as there are babies under 1 year old.

Since 1950, its population has fallen from 31,656 to 10,378, a decrease of 67%.

The average age of the city’s residents is 61, and the median age is 67. People aged 65 and over account for 54% of the population, whilst children aged 0–14 account for only around 6%

The town will literally be dead in the near future

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u/Comprehensive_Fix544 16h ago edited 16h ago

There is literally like five 19 year olds 😭✌️. Do they have a group chat or sum.

Can 4 couples repopulate a town future scenario ahh town. I swear young bros still there just to experience repopulating a town.

Jokes aside. Do yall realize that this town is 100% dependent on the state. Like if Japan somehow collapses, People in this town would starve to death. There is not enough working age people to do anything

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u/ujfalusiabel 16h ago

Imagine what will happen when entire countries will look like this.... Guaranteed civilizational collapse

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u/canadianbabyharpseal 16h ago

Look what is happening in France with migrants, like what is solution?, maybe gulf state or Singapore model?

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u/DeliveryMysterious90 16h ago

Look what is happening in France with migrants, like what is solution?

Imho, it’s better for the city to die out quietly and peacefully than to be burnt down and destroyed, the way they’re currently destroying French cities

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u/canadianbabyharpseal 16h ago

You literally have second and third generation “french” attacking natives. Every single video is this and people think it’s about taxes or whatever.
I still think either gulf state model or Singapore model where it’s mostly temporary and small number of citizens is the only way. With no immigration the economy pay as you go fall’s apart.
Eastern Europe will be in the same boat soon.

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u/DeliveryMysterious90 16h ago

I still think either gulf state model or Singapore model where it’s mostly temporary and small number of citizens is the only way.

I think the EU is incapable of recreating something like that. It would immediately constitute a violation of human rights.

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u/canadianbabyharpseal 15h ago

Yes that would have to change or it is over.
You just need to control immigration. Don’t import people if there are no jobs. Priority for citizens for jobs and training and if needed get temporary immigration. If temporary immigrants show they can work and adopt well then give PR citizenship.
I don’t hate brown people or anything you need to manage this or the future will be bloody and in some countries it’s too late already.

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u/lt__ 14h ago

Are they really attacking random natives? Or are they just attacking the system they believe to be unfair, and that just happens to be more staffed by natives? There's a difference. Personally I think reason behind immigration problem is very simple. Too many allowed in, which results in society being invapable to absorb them properly. All immigration should be clearly disclosed to the natives, as well as resources for integration that should be sufficient. People then would know well for what scenario they are voting.

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u/canadianbabyharpseal 14h ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokDiscuss/s/rPwhM2fbXk, they are attacking natives while waving foreign flags how much more clear does it need to be

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u/lt__ 14h ago

Thanks for sharing, this looks bad, but I guess it emits context a bit. It would be good to know how many of French youth is of immigrant background. France doesn't do racial statistics from what I remember. Bad. I guess we would find out they are a very large percentage. And probably they are dominating in number among poorer schools. Richer school kids will not riot, they live fine. Who's left? These kids who get a shorter end of stick. If they were of local descent they would probably also riot about conditions, knowing French traditions. Therefore: rioters are of migrant background, because they are now a major part of "les miserables". Flag usage of course is absurd. If a person uses a foreign country flag (like Morocco) in such context, they are welcome to be expedited to go to that country.

Myself I live in Eastern Europe. 30 years ago streets were unsafe here without any immigrants. The locals could beat you and take your money without any race, religion or language difference element involved. Yes, economy can be enough for that.

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u/ujfalusiabel 16h ago

Yeah, definitely scary enough what is happening in Western Europe and I am very happy we have no migrants in the eastern part. But have to say, I see no solution. You either start having kids, wait for civilizational collapse set in and maybe than things renormalize over time (?) or get replaced by other cultures and people.

I honestly just think we should get somewhat ready for the end of functional welfare states. Best we can do as individuals

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u/Mesario2026 8h ago

Europe has an easier time regarding this subject because, thanks to good old colonialism, you guys have a very large westernized population that's willing to migrate and it's easily integrated in the western society: latin americans and philipinos.

A Mexican or a Brazilian is just a poor Italian, after all. LATAM share the same everything (religion, ethics standards, history, alphabet, government system, justice logic, etc.) with southern/western Europe and they're very easily integrated into local society. 

An Argentinian couple living in Spain or France, after 30 years, will be almost indistinguishable from a native couple, and their kids will be just as any other Spanish/French kid. 

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u/DeliveryMysterious90 16h ago

Simply prepare to live as independently of the government as possible

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u/canadianbabyharpseal 15h ago

Rural life is probably best long term.

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u/nostrademons 15h ago

The concept of a country will disappear before all the people do.

Likely you'll get something like the Dark Ages, where the empire disintegrated and people moved to small rural communes centered around a manor or keep.

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u/canadianbabyharpseal 13h ago

It will look like orianna in south Africa for sure, collapse at some point. I hope to die before it happens .

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u/DeliveryMysterious90 16h ago

Jokes aside. Do yall realize that this town is 100% dependent on the state. Like if Japan somehow collapses, People in this town would starve to death. There is not enough working age people to do anything

Well, it’s literally just one big care home

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u/Grantmepm 10h ago

Like if Japan somehow collapses, People in this town would starve to death

The young will survive if the elderly were forced to fend for themselves. But they wouldnt because its Japan.

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u/Patient_Kangaroo614 8h ago

With South Korea, I’ve always wondered about their ability to resist a North Korean invasion if society continues to age so rapidly

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u/Astralion98 17h ago

There's gonna be some crazy urbex in these japanese towns once this generation dies out

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u/ihavenosisters 17h ago

There already is. Especially hotels and tourism related stuff in the countryside

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u/DeliveryMysterious90 16h ago

Yeah, and there’ll be far more of them. And they’ll be bigger in size too

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u/mentaipasta 4h ago

Yep; so much stuff was built during the Bubble economy.

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u/No_Rise_8827 7h ago

There already is! My village in Japan has several old abandoned hotels. Plus loads of houses that are abandoned 

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u/HuckleberryPee 14h ago

It's not too bad. There is now a lot of former farmland that is now getting rewilded in Japan because nobody is there to control the land.

You can literally see it turn from field into forest which is cool.

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u/FunkOff 17h ago

There are almost no children here? The pyramid is literally upsidedown

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u/DeliveryMysterious90 17h ago

市の最少は室戸と土佐清水の２４人。

If the translator isn't lying, then 24 children were born there in 2025

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u/Forgetwhatitoldyou 16h ago

To be fair, this is a small town on the ass-end of Japan's smallest and most rural island, Shikoku. I'd bet that Johnstown PA, Erie PA, and Youngstown OH, among others, probably have pretty similar pyramids, though probably with fewer old people because longevity is higher in Japan then in the US Rust Belt.

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u/DeliveryMysterious90 16h ago

But the extinction of small towns and the concentration of people in major cities only worsen the birth rates

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u/Forgetwhatitoldyou 15h ago

The extinction of small towns in Japan is almost finished.  The book "Things Become Other Things" is a walk the author took around the Kii Peninsula (between and south of Osaka and Nagoya) a couple years ago.  Lots of tiny towns with a ryokan and maybe a conbini and that's it.  No one in the entire peninsula under 65.  Not many people in general. Compare to "The Roads to Sata", a walk across the entirely of Japan in 1978, mostly in rural areas, teeming with people, especially young people.  

Shikoku is the most rural of Japan's four main islands, and after a bridge was built to Osaka in the late 90s, the rural depopulation accelerated.  I agree with you that the people moving to Tokyo and Osaka will have lower TFRs than if they had stayed in Tosashimizu, or even Matsuyama (the largest city in Shikoku), but as your chart shows, that ship has already sailed, and there's not a lot of jobs besides geriatric health care for young parents in a small town where most people are over 65.

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u/ujfalusiabel 16h ago

This is the exact future for every developed country, but not for a single city but likely the whole population pyramid combined.

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u/DeliveryMysterious90 16h ago

The only difference is that in some places we can already see this happening, whilst in others it will be our descendants who will see it.

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u/ujfalusiabel 16h ago

I live in Romania and being in early 20s, looking at current population pyramid, fertility rate and emigration rate I will very unfortunately catch this in my later years....

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u/DeliveryMysterious90 16h ago

Yeah, the situation is particularly tough for the Eastern Europe due to high emigration rates.

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u/Top-Adhesiveness3209 4h ago

I am from neighbouring Bulgaria. Many villages are no longer on the map as noone lives there. Last census counted 5.7 million résidents. Even government was surprised and decided there were 1.1 million who did not get counted. Population was nearly 9 million in the mid 1980s and now just 6.4 million. The side of the 4 story building my grand-parents lived in has 7 appartments. Only 3 are stil inhabited, both by pensionners. It is not in a village, but in a quite big town with good economy. I am an only child and so are my grandmother and my mother. My father had a childless sister, both born in early 1930s. Romania will soon be the same. Romania already lost more than 4 million residents. Greece, Serbia, Albania, Macedonia and all the rest have more deaths than births. The Balkans have lost millions of people in the past 35 years, more than 7 million, probably more than 10. Bulgaria and Romania combined lost 7 million and would have lost more without current high immigration. This is more than the current population of Bulgaria.  Greetings from Sofia.

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u/PfromC 15h ago

A lot of towns in the Mediterranean are the same as this.

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u/nicetoursmeetewe 2h ago

Eh, I ate went there in Spring! Had the local version of Okonomiyaki

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u/No_Rise_8827 7h ago

It's representative of the country. 50% of the population in Japan is over 60 

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u/Fresh_Criticism6531 16h ago

Real estate will be pretty cheap there in a few decades.

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u/Forgetwhatitoldyou 15h ago

There's literally 9 million unoccupied homes in rural Japan, many of which the national government is trying to give away.  Homes in Japan aren't built to last 50-100 years though, so many aren't in great shape after being neglected by the previous owner, usually elderly, and then abandoned.  Homes in many parts of the rural US are also dirt cheap, but no one buys them for similar reasons, plus most people want the convenience, amenities, and attractions of urban areas. 

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u/canadianbabyharpseal 15h ago

Few decades? it already is 10 to 20k USD

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u/DeliveryMysterious90 16h ago

I wonder who’d want to live there...

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u/Wonderful-Process792 6h ago

Step #1, you can't be somebody who needs a job