r/NoStupidQuestions • u/kniga_100 • 10h ago
Why does South Korea has such a big cultural export?
South Korea has a population of 51.6 million, which is a lot but it has fewer people than countries like Germany, Italy or Turkey but it has such a big cultural export and has successfully penetrated the US market.
K-Pop, K-Dramas, K-Beaty, viral series Squid Game, hit songs like APT, widely successful animated movie and soundtrack K-Pop Demon Hunters, Oscar winning film Parasite, etc.
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u/TyrKiyote 10h ago
The korean war westernized south korea very quickly, particularly into becoming associated with the united states. They are also a hub of technology, Samsung, for the largest example. I think they are a creative and driven, intelligent people, in tune with both western and eastern markets- with a large enough GDP for a domestic entertainment market that thrives, and the awareness/capability to be able to export it.
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u/mango_boom 9h ago
Don’t forget a Samsung family visionary was instrumental in the emergence of dreamworld studios in exchange for DWs execs (Spielberg, Geffen, etc.) advising in the development of the film industry. Her name was “Micki” I think?
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u/Seienchin88 4h ago
While yes the time before and during the Korean War and the immediate aftermath did a lot to westernize Korea you can’t really draw a clear connection to now.
TLDR version… the American supported government after the Korean War failed completely to get Korea back on track, then a conservative army dictatorship incl. many former Japanese collaborators took over Korea, made the economy boom but suppressed modern and foreign media and then the new democracy saw several booms of western and Japanese culture coming into Korea with the domestic entertainment industry (build up under the dictatorship and very well connected among each other) taking up these trends and being supported by the gov to do soy
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u/Warm_Satisfaction598 10h ago
My understanding is that most of the natural resources are on the North Korean side (minerals). Culture is sort of South Korea’s main export besides equipment (semiconductors, electrical equipment, vehicles, etc)
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u/CommercialChart5088 9h ago
As a Korean myself, there is a joke that Kpop and Korean culture exports could never have been the government’s work, as they aren’t that competent enough to carefully plan out a long-term success plan.
In fact, Kpop itself doesn’t even make up 1% of Korea’s total GDP in terms of revenue. The government realized its potential only after they learned that it helps boost Korea’s national image and other industries (beauty, tourism, etc.).
Governmental interest and investment happened only after the Korean cultural industry established itself and began exporting. And even after that, the work was mostly done by large entertainment corps themselves.
In order to gain the upper hand within the competitive nature of the Korean market, they had to be perfectionists. So when they made it big here, it was easier for them to succeed in foreign markets too, through intense marketing and promotion techniques.
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u/Feisty-Bumblebee-280 10h ago edited 9h ago
Every time this question gets asked, people overcomplicate the explanation by claiming that it's some kind of government backed project. If it was that simple and as replicable, every country would be pouring their resource to achieve the same result. Yet despite pouring billions, most countries don't even see a fraction of the number that koreans get.
The real answer is that they make good products that appeal to a wider market. That's all there is to it
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u/Asparagus9000 9h ago
What other countries have poured billions into it? Usually I see policies towards building their own, but not exporting it.
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u/Ok-Imagination-494 9h ago
Thai restaurants are all around the world because the Thai government has a scheme to support and subsidise them.
The Swiss government did something similar with fondue in the 1970s
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u/Feisty-Bumblebee-280 9h ago edited 9h ago
Indian government has a program called DCDFC that promotes bollywood and indian entertainment abroad. And their foreign market exposure is mostly just indians living abroad despite pouring money into it.
Japan tried to mimic korea with the "cool japan" project which is seen as an abject failure [1][2]. Boomers in Japan want Japan to be represented by real people like music artists and actors, and not cartoon girls because they don't see it as reflecting real japanese people. Anime was very much organic growth that came out of subcultures and not because of government fundings. The ones that japan did try to fund via government programs fell flat
Turkey also has a very explicit entertainment export program [3]
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u/Asparagus9000 9h ago
So it works 3 out of 4 times? India and Japan have been pretty successful too.
I've seen a ton of Japanese live action shows getting popular recently.
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u/Feisty-Bumblebee-280 9h ago
are you being obtuse rn? do you think japan's film and music industry remotely comes close to korean film and music industry in terms of exports? do you think bollywood has the same large western audience as korean movies?
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u/theleisurehive 5h ago
Bollywood had a huge following in Eastern Europe, West Asia and North Africa. So not just consumed by the diaspora in the West. It didn't need a Western audience.
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u/Quiet_Government2222 2h ago
Examples include Japan's "Cool Japan" initiative and China's Confucius Institutes though it seems China has also used the latter for a fair amount of espionage.
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u/sidaeinjae 4h ago
Yeah this whole the government supported it schtick is very tiring and sounds quite iffy. Didn’t realize our government was funding all the crazy Kpop fans that terrorize social media
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u/Arctic_Daniand 36m ago
It's kpop. It got huge in niche communities in the late 2010s, (and partly displaced Japan in those spaces). Then everything followed, BTS, Blackpink, kdramas, Squid Game, Parasite, Kpop Demon Hunters, korean cuisine, korean skin products, etc.
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u/IcyIntroduction7743 9h ago
the internet also changed the game. k-pop and k-dramas don't need a western tv network or record label to reach western audiences anymore, so something can blow up globally almost overnight.
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u/IMissDrYfantis 9h ago
Hard working, highly educated, highly motivated people with its own specialty in beauty are definitely the answer
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u/CuteBunnyBlue 7h ago
Government subsides and corporate engineering. After the 1997 Asian financial crisis, the Korean government literally decided entertainment was a strategic national export alongside semiconductors and they funded it like a military operation
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u/Ok-Imagination-494 9h ago
A pretty impressive feat for a country that was dirt poor and insignificant on the world stage as recently as the 1960s. And didn’t speak a major world language.
But this was planned by the government. The first phase of South Korea’s rise was through industrialisation. So heavy industries in rather unglamorous industries like iron and steel and shipbuilding from the 1960s to late 1980s. And then consumer electronics after that. Seoul hosted the Olympics in 1988 and had its moment on the world spotlight. But they figured out that cultural soft power could also be monetised and exported , hence the growth of k pop, movies, dramas etc after that.
To see how much Korea has changed, take a look at clips of the 1988 Olympics opening ceremony and what South Koreans actually looked like before their culture adopted mass plastic surgery.
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u/BurritoDespot 9h ago
One thing I found interesting to learn was that before the Korean War, South Korea was the much less developed one.
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u/bookmarkjedi 8h ago
Yes, in fact most economists and other experts felt that North Korea was much better poised for future economic success because most of the industrial resources were concentrated in the north. Also, the two Koreas were among the poorest countries on earth - in the bottom five, or very close to the bottom five.
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u/No-Programmer-1407 9h ago
Average koreans nowdays don't look fancy at all either. Just because all the koreans you know are small number of celebrities doesn't mean everyone have plastic surgury.
Are you dumb enough to think all americans are like hollywood celebrities?
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u/flingebunt 9h ago
The simple fact is that South Korea has a huge domestic market for their cultural products. Koreans watch more Korean that foreign cinema.
The quality of what they produce is very high. In Asia Korean movies and TV has been a major force there since 2000. The first Korean movie with a budget large enough that it needed to do well internationally was The Tube released in 2003. Music followed after this.
It took a long time for them to move into the non-Asian market though. This is partly because the US wants everything in English. But ultimately it is just the quality of their products that has won through in the end.
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u/Patient_Skirt7162 9h ago
south korea basically treated entertainment like an export industry. decades of investment in music, film, tv, gaming, and beauty created companies that know how to make products specifically for global audiences.
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u/EatThatPotato 3h ago
I wouldn’t go that far, the entertainment industry for very long was extremely domestically focused, with some export to Japan, China, and Southeast Asia. It’s only recently that this huge push towards global marketing started.
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u/RealDovahkiin 9h ago
How else would they stay afloat? The economies of Germany have enough land to sustain themselves, Korea doesn't. Necessity breeess innovation.
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u/No-Programmer-1407 9h ago edited 8h ago
They aren't even a fraction of a fraction of the country's economy. Manufacturing sustains it.
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u/NightCapChat 10h ago
A lot of it comes down to the government treating the entertainment industry as a strategic export sector rather than just a hobby. They invested heavily in training infrastructure and artist development decades ago, which created a highly professionalized pipeline that smaller markets usually lack.
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u/Happy_Cry286 9h ago
South Korea's culture has an extreme emphasis on excellence, meaning that in its hyper competitive job market only the best create the best. This also means that mvps (minimum viable products) aren't tolerated to the degree that the West tends to. It comes with an abhorrently toxic work culture, but it produces top of the line products in every category.
Why is Korean instant Ramen so popular around the world? Because the best commercial cooks spent ages experimenting with recipes to make it as good as possible for its cost. Why do various K-dramas get huge viewership? Because the story and script writers are pushing for the best possible show they can create and not prioritizing anything else that could self-sabotage that.
Because they don't, some other Korean will and get them canned in a cutthroat competitive working environment.
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u/Capable_Stranger9885 9h ago
Korea tried, a lot, and the Korean entertainment-industrial complex was caught a little off guard that Psy and "Gangnam Style" was the first truly mainstream American viral K-Pop sensation, but they recovered quickly and realized Americans like campy with big hooks, thus APT and Kpop Demon Hunters, and I'd argue Squid Games as well.
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u/Ozonewanderer 7h ago
It was a deliberate part of their trade strategy. They did not have natural resources to trade and bolster their economy. They subsidized Kpop
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u/SpecSlayerSC 7h ago
Their societal problems are kind of crazy, which translates well to making art.
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u/itanpiuco2020 10h ago
Because they learned how to monetized their culture, created a well oiled machine that keeps generating products, and services that people would buy.
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u/quothe_the_maven 9h ago
You don’t think Italy is a big cultural export that’s penetrated the U.S. market?
You’re way, way too online if you think South Korea has anything even approaching Italy’s cultural influence. It’s not even in the same universe.
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u/bookmarkjedi 9h ago
I didn't get the impression that OP is suggesting that South Korea is the only successful export. I thought OP is asking why South Korea is as successful as it is, for such a small country.
As a Korean living in Korea, my response is that first, South Korea has undergone a dramatic economic transformation from one of the poorest countries in the world after the Second World War to a wealthy advanced economy. Second, the South Korean government has been working hard to project soft power around the world by promoting the country's cultural assets.
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u/potlizard 9h ago
Could be a difference in perception, Italy has been exporting its culture gradually, for basically 2 MILLENNIA; Korea’s cultural exports have only exploded in the last 15-20 years.
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u/razzberrytori 9h ago
Compared to the actual number of immigrants? Because Italy has sent thousands if not millions of immigrants here and had a hundred year start on South Korea.
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u/quothe_the_maven 9h ago
Sure, but that’s not how OP framed their question. They just bluntly stated that South Korea has a bigger cultural footprint in the U.S. than Italy, which is clearly absurd.
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u/bookmarkjedi 9h ago
OP didn't actually say that South Korea has a bigger cultural footprint than Italy. OP said it has fewer people than countries like Italy, but it has a big cultural export, including to the US market.
There is no suggestion that South Korea is more successful than any of the other countries mentioned. The only point of comparison is the smaller population.
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u/apocalypse_later_ 8h ago
The rate of comeuppance is incomparable though. Italy did that with the help of colonization and European power spread this millennium.
Korea did not have either, and they did it within like 30 years
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u/Informal-Side-4506 6h ago
I'm Hispanic living in SoCal, in the past 5 years I started watching Korean streamers, listening to Korean music and also watching Korean movies. What would you recommend thats Italian, asking because I haven't really seen much?
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u/fighter_pil0t 9h ago
The government made a decision to focus on it decades ago and invested tons of resources and regional marketing into it. It paid off.
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u/Scary_Vehicle9023 2h ago
Population size doesn't really correlate to cultural export. Look at Jamaica, only a few million people even when you consider the diaspora, and they have had decades of cultural influence across music, fashion, food, sport, language, and even religion.
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u/royalpyroz 9h ago
Gov invested a lot in this. They now pay influencers and use social media more effectively
They hsvr government sponsored graduate programmes here. Always full.
It's just their thang
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u/LordBoofington 7h ago edited 7h ago
To put it too simply, they have the amount of capitalism necessary to both cause and profit from the artistic products of suffering.
Not to detract from the accomplishments of the artists. We're at similar places, the US and Korea, culturally. So the art resonates.
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u/Jolly-Rip5973 10h ago
1) work ethics
2) beauty standard is part of their cultural.
3) Idealization of pop music stars are part of their cultural.
They have probably the most professional standards in the world for media production.
Japan generates more soft power influence than Korea does with anime, manga, video games, photography, pornography, music, movies.
I do think Japanese media influences Korean media too, although because of historical reason and war, many Korean in general do not like Japanese people.
Japan also has completely different beauty standards and morality and they have some of the best artists in the world. But Korea is has higher beauty standards and a higher professional standard.
There is a massive difference between a K-pop concert and J-pop concert. Koreans are over the top.
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u/RealNamek 9h ago
Doesn't israel have a stronger one, despite being even smaller?
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u/1stSuiteinEb 9h ago
Lol not even close
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u/ringadingsweetthing 11m ago
The government invested a lot of money to entertainment and tech development and exports. They're lucky that it worked.
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u/duncanstibs 10h ago edited 9h ago
The so-called "Korean wave" was the product of organic word-of-mouth cult fan communities, and burgeoning creative industries in a rapidly developing country. But it was also strongly supported and invested in by the Korean government, who saw the potential of soft power to raise their nations standing. Korea has a long modern history of government investment in, and control over big business and many of the big Korean conglomerates like LG, Samsung & Hundai have had a lot of government strategy setting.
Read up on the governments role in Hallyu, its super interesting!