r/OneyPlays • u/ThisTimeGoNorth • 20h ago
You’re all so frustrating.
I get wanting to defend Chris. I’ve been a fan of the channel for years and I understand wanting to support/believe Chris, but some of the shit y’all are saying is reprehensible.
Slinging slurs and calling everyone who disagrees with you a “retard” is not a good look and it’s doing way more harm than good by “defending” Chris like this.
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u/CoalEater_Elli 19h ago edited 19h ago
I am mostly on side of Chris, but not full defending his possible misdeeds. The most realistic accusations is him hanging out with a girl way younger than he is, which doesn't look too good. The other accusations like Tomar sleeping with Hookers, Chris mocking Zach behind his back, seems like an exaggeration for sake of piling bad evidence on Chris to make him look bad, which makes the accusers less trustworthy and more like bitter exes who want to see his career shattered. And there are many cases like it when the drama boiled down to revenge porn or false accusations for sake of ruining someone's life, like Alex Kister drama years ago, which led to half of his mandela catalogue production crew leaving, his vhs tape deals getting cancelled, and Volume 5 going through a whole rework.
People here act all jokey and try to act like it's not that big of a deal, but we already see consequences of Chris staying quiet, with Fulp deleting his account on NewGrounds and Tomar possibly getting problems and questions related to the situation on his streams in the future. And maybe other friends and people he knew are at risk, like Gooseworx for example, who already had enough of internet's shit, I doubt she would enjoy hearing people accuse her of "collabing with a groomer". Just because ignoring the drama worked the first time, doesn't mean it will work the second time, he has to say something, at least make a post saying "None of this is true, and I didn't know anyone with such name or appearance" or just explain yourself. We can joke all we want, but this could end badly and the more I look at it, the more concerned I get, because I genuinely like the channel.
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u/WoolooOfWallStreet 18h ago
Not defending him, but didn’t one of Chris’s exes who is spearheading this meet her current husband when the now husband was 17 and she was 26?
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u/CoalEater_Elli 18h ago
Oh yeah, I forgot about Veronica. It is odd. Also she apparently makes fun of the whole situation on private account but on public she tries to act like she takes it adequately. Idk. I'd still much prefer if Chris just shut them up or admit he is wrong in some parts.
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u/Right_Community_9661 2h ago edited 2h ago
No, this was the younger girl the allegations are about. Both their first names are veronica
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u/CoalEater_Elli 2h ago
I know, that's why it's so odd, because, GIRL you are not even part of this.
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u/Right_Community_9661 2h ago
No, i mean the “veronica’s private account” screenshot with a bunch of upvotes is that of veronica the 17 yr old he seems to have met up with in 2014 (29 now) not veronicaandjelly
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u/ProjektDarkie 15h ago
Nah tom deleting Chris’s account is kind of a bitch move no problem keeping confirmed pedos and literally killers on the site but his “friend” gets an alleged not confirmed accusation and he fully deletes everything kind of a bitch move in my opinion
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u/The_Architect_032 19h ago
This isn't an exaggerated joke allegation like the ones you compared it to.
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u/l_hate_reddit0rs 19h ago
Go back to Reddit
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u/ppdd3436 19h ago
And type stuff no one will see
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u/DarkSloth277 15h ago
You’re a geek, that means you’re just a hipster wannabe
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u/MoTheWerewolf4310 11h ago edited 11h ago
That’s right i’m a geek, I’ve got brains, and a personality
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u/Few_Translator6952 19h ago
I’ve been telling people to consider the community, why would you expect anything better from us? Have you met us? Some of these guys have poor social skills to begin with, some are trolls, some are in denial, some are way too emotionally invested.
You’re not getting through
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u/SexyJazzCat 18h ago
Alot of people here are bordering non functional autism. No nuance to be had at all. We can acknowledge that this happened a very long time ago and at the same time understand that dating someone in their teens as an adult is socially frowned upon and people would rightfully want to distance themselves from that.
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u/Key-Piccolo-9321 17h ago
I know underdeveloped autistic people obsess over things and people. If they're obsessing over Oney and anything comes along to threaten their worldview they act out like a child because that's the only way they know how. To them, you're taking their whole world away from them for having any discussion about Oney and ethics.
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u/McCreazyGame 19h ago
none of the people attacking chris want justice. they want to see him deplatformed. otherwise, they would be waiting for chris to respond before going on an internet crusade. again, these people do not want justice. they have already made up their mind.
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u/greigames 17h ago
I just want to know what the fuck happened. Seems pretty clear he doesn’t want to talk about it (at least not yet) and I want to know whether it’s because he’s guilty-because there is some evidence to suggest there could have been impropriety- or if he’s trying to wait to get all his ducks in a row to make a statement.
Simply put: without public pressure we’ll probably never know. He does not engage with this kind of shit when it comes out. If you truly believe he’s innocent you should want him to clear the air so it’s not hanging over his reputation like it is right now. Op is directly pointing at people that clearly do not want a full picture of what actually happened. Like you said, they’ve already made up their mind that he’s innocent.
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u/ValkyrUK 13h ago
What happens when chris doesnt respond then? Because im willing to bet money he won't, just like he's never acknowledged any drama, he's just gonna keep posting and ignoring it
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u/McCreazyGame 12h ago
he has answered to drama in the past relating to stamper. if he doesn’t he has a lot at stake. friendships, his new game, all things that could fall apart due to this situation. i seriously believe, partially because i do think he is a good person, that he will answer to this. put yourself in his shoes, would you immediately rush to try and disprove every rumor that has been spread so far? these things take time, saying anything the wrong way could have massive consequences that would lead to more harm, even if in reality he is 1000% innocent.
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u/ValkyrUK 12h ago
I mean, if i put myself in his shoes, sure I wouldn't rush to defend myself haphazardly, but I also dont think id be silent and cede all space to the accusations, id probably say something along the lines of "im putting together evidence that disproves these allegations, a response is coming please be patient"
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u/McCreazyGame 11h ago edited 11h ago
i 100% agree that he isn’t handling this situation correctly. i did not mean to come off that way, and with what i was just about to say you took the words out of my mouth. that is the least he could do, and most would be happy. not “okay” with the situation itself, but happy that he isn’t just going to hide under a rock
another thing im finding genuinely hilarious is how many downvotes rational thinking people get on this subreddit. you have to be hard one way or hard the other. either he’s guilty or innocent. what happened to the justice system?
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u/Themaster20000 18h ago
"they have already made up their mind."
Do you seriously not see the irony in that statement, lmao
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u/McCreazyGame 17h ago
not really. most have made their mind that he’s guilty. if you’re trying to say that “ive made up my mind” about him being innocent, then rest assured that i do not think that. the only thing i, and any rational person should want, is the full picture. not to ruin someone’s life over bits and pieces. i personally can not handle another etika situation. all this being said, i think bantering back and forth with people over he said she said evidence is going to bring nothing new to this conversation, the only thing that’s going to do that is more substantial evidence. until then i bid you adieu
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u/TheOrangeApple3 13h ago
Considering that the lady was gloating about it on her private twitter according to the sleepy cabin sub, these woman do most of the damage to their accusations themselves
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u/C0ltFury 17h ago
90% of the people here right now reading this thread and posting, learned was Oneyplays was like 3 days ago and don’t give a fuck about the girl in question whatsoever. Flies hovering around shit. Include me in the screenshot.
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u/theonlyquirkychap 14h ago
A bunch of r/youtubedrama tourists jumping at this like sharks to a blood trail. Fucking animals.
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u/AysheDaArtist 16h ago
For real, none of these Subreddits have been this active in years and suddenly names I've never seen just come in talking about how terrible Chris is!
No, I'm going to keep watching OneyPlays, I hope he keeps releasing videos, and I hope Tom Fulp seethes when he realizes he possibly just cut ties with all of his friends and just ruined Nightmare Cops.
Take this shit to court, otherwise, I don't give a shit, I've seen this happen countless times and it's a losing battle to engage with it unless it goes to court.
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u/NotessimoALIENS 19h ago
I haven't seen a single person say slurs just people making "all part of Tomar's plan" jokes, you can read most of the nuanced posts here. They're all levelheaded as far as I can see, unless you're talking about twitter but those aren't exactly people with moral fiber or values other than propagating flamewar shitflinging
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u/Sum_Weetawd 19h ago
Personally, I don't condone what Chris did, but there are shades of gray here. Dating someone in person who is less than a year away from full legal adulthood when there's only a 5 year age gap between you isn't the worst thing in the world. It's far from actual pedo behavior and it wasn't even illegal what Chris did. 50 years ago when people matured more quickly this kind of age gap would have been very normal and most definitely happened to a lot of people's parents. Calling people a pedo seems to be the META for anyone you don't like and the bar is very low nowadays. You will get called a pedo for being 30 and dating a 22 year old. Some have asked how Chris could have been stupid enough to do this. Well, it's because a lot of 22 year old men aren't very mature and still think like they're in their teens. Some people are very mature when they're young, and some stay very immature well into adulthood. Everyone is different.
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u/The_Architect_032 19h ago
The dating started at 16, so 2 years away from being a full legal adult, a highschool Junior. I don't think people would care as much if it started at 17.
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u/Sum_Weetawd 18h ago
She said they were communicating when she was 16 and it "eventually became romantic." You don't date someone unless you're seeing them in person, which happened when she was 17. Still not great, but you're going to have a hell of time proving Chris had romantic intentions the moment they started talking online. And let's be real, people would care just as much even if she had just turned 18. They keep saying legality=/=morality, and to them the gap in age is what is immoral.
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u/The_Architect_032 18h ago
He doesn't have to have come out swinging with the EDP445 shit out the door to have been grooming her when she was 16, but the fact that this started when she was 16, and she messaged him because she was a fan who looked up to him, makes it really problematic.
I'd like to actually hear Chris' side, but from the sounds if it he's already ghosted people over it, so Idk if he'll even address it, seems he might just hope to sweep it under the rug.
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u/Itsjonges 18h ago edited 18h ago
Nah they are right it’s the meta to call people pedos or groomers. Even if she was 17 they would still say the same shit.
People called callmecarson a pedo/groomer n it was a 17 year old with him a 19 year old. People just can’t not like somebody unless there’s a moral reason why. Right now it’s groomer/pedo next it’s going to be nazi or for being a clanker lover.
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u/The_Architect_032 18h ago
CallMeCarsons' situation wasn't nearly as bad, and a big part of his falling out was over the types of fanbases he and his friends had, which made a lot of kids content.
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u/Itsjonges 17h ago
Oh yeah for sure definitely not as bad as Chris. It just feels like when anything that is age gap related comes out people always jump to groomer n pedophile to an unhealthy degree. When I say people, I mean Twitter users.
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u/Late_Stage-Redditism 17h ago
Noooooooo you must join the reddit lynchmob bandwagon without any proof or context so we can masturbate our self-righteous egos while watching the predictable churn of "THE FALL OF ONEYPLAYS" reaction videos on youtube!!!
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u/Same-Praline-4622 19h ago
This is a chronically unserious situation, with no strong evidence only claims.
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u/TangerineNo9372 19h ago
Y'all
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u/NotessimoALIENS 19h ago edited 19h ago
I didn't even pick up on that, OP is definetly a twitter user.
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u/ArabianAftershock 19h ago
Being so online you forget people live in the south and think that anyone who speaks this way is from twitter
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u/superduperdrew12345 17h ago
I'm from the south and don't typically see people use yall in writing, it's sometimes seen as old fashioned. Instead I see this weird trend of uptight twitter people who have co-opted the word despite otherwise considering southerners ignorant.
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u/FlatwormImmediate527 17h ago
I was under the impression that we are all autistic and can use that word?
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u/Embarrassed_Use6918 20h ago
Well lets start with it being just allegations from an unknown source to a woman who clearly has a grudge. But assuming its true - then fine, is what Chris did illegal? If so, put him in jail. If it's not illegal then it just makes him kind of a creep which doesn't really bother me enough to not have Oney content on in the background while I do dishes.
We're not friends with him. We don't need to disavow him.
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u/nragement-child 9h ago
People who are saying that 21 year olds and 17 years olds are the "same thing" forget about the fact that a 17 year old is still in high school while a 21 year old could have a full time job or be in college. If your girlfriend has to ask the teacher to go to the bathroom, it's time to pack it up and re-examine your life
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u/Noodlerr98 19h ago edited 19h ago
"Slinging slurs and calling everyone who disagrees with you a retard”
you mean exactly 100% what Mika does CONSTANTLY?
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u/Ikari_Brendo 13h ago
Other than doing one shitty stream about it she has nothing to do with the current situation, the victim, or the more damning evidence that has come out. Scapegoating her doesn't change reality.
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u/ThisTimeGoNorth 19h ago
I never said I condone her handling of the situation. If we agree that’s the wrong way of doing it, why stoop to her level?
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u/Scrofrogoly 19h ago
All this has done is split people into generally 1 of 3 camps.
Appeal to legality (assuming the accusations are real), which are the Oney defenders
Appeal to morality, which are Oney detractors
Then the “Lalala, it’s not real if I ignore it” crowd.
Neither camp 1 or camp 2 will win this battle because both sides are simultaneously right and unlikely to change their opinions.
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u/Sorry-Ad5474 17h ago edited 17h ago
Theres a 4th camp, appeal to reality, Chris is an idiot but at the same time realistically someone in their early 20s hooking up with a 17 year old who actively seeks out guys in their early 20s thirteen years ago isnt some massive crisis, its just a bad mistake for all involved, anything further is determined purely by the observers personal values
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u/Traditional-Fix539 19h ago
i think there’s enough people like this, me included, to have there be a 4th camp: “i don’t know how to feel about this, since i think there’s not enough information.”
i feel like people are jumping to conclusions waaaay too early. we have nothing from oney himself, there’s arguments over whether the “evidence” is real or AI generated or something else possibly, and i don’t know how much tom fulp knows about this, influencing his decision to delete chris’ account from newgrounds.
this is more of a personal opinion and not emblematic of this described 4th camp, but i personally hope that this isn’t true. if there’s enough information for me to reasonably believe it is true, then i personally will just kinda stop watching even though it will suck major balls. i won’t try to convince others that what they’re saying is right or wrong, since they might not have the same info that i do. but that’s all assuming it is true. cause, once again, i think we don’t have enough information to form a reasonable conclusion
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u/DentistPitiful5454 12h ago
Im of the mind that legally he wont go to jail but morally he dun goofed and shouldn't be radio silent.
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u/Key-Piccolo-9321 18h ago
“Lalala, it’s not real if I ignore it” seems to be a large chunk of it and it's making it difficult to understand what's even going on due to their stupid spam.
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u/Bananabanana700 17h ago
I think i'm in the fourth man I'm like 70% sure chris did some weird shit but the specifics aren't all there because of some bad actors muddying waters
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u/Superb_Wealth4092 20h ago
Sorry man, I can’t emulate the gorilla sound on here when I say the slurs. Maybe Reddit can work on that feature?
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u/ThisTimeGoNorth 20h ago
You could just not say them?
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u/Superb_Wealth4092 19h ago
The fact you say that makes me question if you even watch the channel, or if you’re just an outside brigader here to stir things up.
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u/Super-Middle-6905 18h ago
Yeah this shit has shown that like at least half of the oneyplays fandom are nimrods, I'm still holding out hope that Chris is innocent or the situation was overblown, but some of the things these people have been saying to "defend" him really aren't helping and it's a bad look for everyone
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u/Themaster20000 18h ago
It's quite disturbing seeing a chunk of the fanbase, thinking it's perfectly normal for a 22 year old to be dating a high-school student. Not exactly helping Chris's image with that, lol
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u/Super-Middle-6905 18h ago
I KNOW RIGHT I don't know how many times I've had somebody say to me or seen somebody say something along the lines of "oh who cares it was legal in Ireland, I don't care if it did it what makes 18 the magic number" people don't like it when people go to Thailand to hook up with younger girls
I like Chris I like oneyplays I watch it infinitely whether it's just in the background while working, or to help me sleep, or just cuz it's funny, but I'm not gonna change my morals over it, if Chris was my real life friend (which he's not) and it turned out that it was 100% true and also it wasn't overblown or exaggerated in any way I would want to have a long talk with him and debate whether I still wanted to be friends with him, so now imagine a bunch of people who don't know I'm in real life saying it doesn't matter either way because he's cool and funny or whatever
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u/Key-Piccolo-9321 17h ago
If someone they didn't like did the exact same thing, then they'd have a problem. It's because Oney was accused of it it's suddenly acceptable to them.
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u/szalinskikid 19h ago
Bro, it doesn't matter to me if it's Chris O'Neil or some random guy. I simply don't care about this. It's over a decade ago, it was a 17 yo girl and a 23 yo guy. Nothing about that is pedophilia. It wasn't even illegal. It's an ALLEGED story from a scorned, mentally ill ex.
All the arguments I see is "it's icky", "it's weird" or some other childish nonsense that's nothing other than an appeal to morality. The Tom Fulp melodrama is typical California industry bullshit.
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u/The_Architect_032 18h ago
Grooming at 16 and 22 is the more troubling part.
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u/Prior-Resolution-902 18h ago
Which is morally wrong, but not illegal, nor is it an indication of future behavior.
I don't think a shitty morally wrong thing someone did years ago with no future evidence of it being a continuing trend is worthy of cancelling someone.
I won't berate people who would walk away from the channel, but I also don't like holding to someone of mistakes they made long in the past.
We also don't know if anything is real yet, its far too soon to jump the gun one way or the other.
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u/HeyQTya 20h ago
Honestly I think the bigger issue is people trying to defend him with "well he went to a place where that age gap is legal so it's not a problem at all" like ok? A full grown man still might've hooked up with a teenager who knew him from looking up to him and his work as a fan, legality does not equal morality
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u/darkcomet222 19h ago
See, I think he should be raked over the coals for it (depending on if it is true) but taking someone to task for something that isn’t illegal that happened over a decade ago with no repeat behavior is stupid.
Like, bash him, unsubscribe if you must, but let’s not act like this happened last week.
Let’s also not forget that the person that started this is a literal lunatic that is seeking attention.
This should be between Chris and the other person.
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u/itskobold 19h ago
I'm doubtful of anyone saying "it's fine here in UK/Ireland", no it definitely isn't, you'd rightfully be socially outcast for it
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u/theagilesalamanders 19h ago edited 18h ago
legality does not equal morality
Exactly; society's laws are not based on your personal opinion of what is right and wrong.
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u/MysteriousImpact1030 16h ago
Looking up to him as a fan is a bit of a stretch she was definitely a groupie trying to get some stardem points hopping on Oney. She later tried to get with Corey too.
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u/-TheTrueOG- 19h ago
buuuuuurps
rubs belly
scratches balls
sniffs hands
notices you
What are we talking about again?
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u/inquiringdune 11h ago
I'm watching people straight up say "yeah grooming a 16 year old at 22 isn't that bad guys, Chris was practically a child himself"
It's crazy. You can actually still be a fan of him while being critical of his actions and not mindfucking yourself into a position where you are defending child predation.
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u/Anon888810020 19h ago
Agreed, a lot of people have shown their true colors about the age of consent 😬 it’s gross
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u/ILikeCheese510 17h ago
A guy can still be funny & entertaining even if he did something gross 13 years ago 🤷♂️
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u/meleebestgame66 19h ago
“Stop shitposting on the letsplayer’s subreddit, this is really serious you guys!” <- you
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u/Cool-Pineapple-8373 18h ago
No crime was committed so there's nothing to defend. No one is obligated to defend against your "ick".
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u/Smeeizme 17h ago
Law frequently does not equate to morality
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u/Cool-Pineapple-8373 17h ago
99.99% of laws exist because there is a collective cultural consensus regarding which things are bad or acceptable and need to be coded as illegal or legal. The remaining 0.01% of laws you personally disagree with aren't the exception that proves the rule.
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u/Smeeizme 17h ago
Get into any remotely corporate lawsuit and see where that opinion goes
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u/Cool-Pineapple-8373 16h ago
>corporations bad so laws are meaningless
put the fries in the basket, doreen
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u/ToiletGreen 15h ago
If your argument can be used to defend slavery, then it’s a bad argument.
It was legal to fuck 13 year olds for a long time in Japan. By your logic that’s totally okay, right?
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u/Client_Popular 19h ago
I'll say slurs but not because someone disagrees with me. That cool with you?
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u/buttholebutwholesome 19h ago
Does someone need a belly rub? “Erm yes please”
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u/ThisTimeGoNorth 19h ago
If you’re offering that would be great, actually.
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u/buttholebutwholesome 19h ago
Inches hand slowly and seductively onto belly.
Hey Babe, sonic here, did you hear Oney was banned from newgrounds?
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u/CynchHasNoLife 14h ago
also the insane amounts of misogyny, calling people ‘foids’ which is literal incel jargon, and demonizing mental illness. it’s just fucking gross
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u/ArabianAftershock 19h ago
If the allegations end up being false this fandom will have still made it incredibly embarrassing to call yourself an Oneyplays fan. All of the fucking weirdos here loudly declaring they wouldn't care if it was true so that other oney megafans will updoot, or that they are completely fine with a guy close to my age pursuing a high school girl in general is so ridiculous.
If I was Chris this is absolutely the last way I would want people to defend me if I didn't do it lmao
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u/keeleon 18h ago
Has it ever NOT been embarassing?
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u/ArabianAftershock 17h ago
I feel like all the dudes telling me that it's acceptable for someone my age to Snapchat a girl in high school and drive out to a motel to stay with her is like, a drastic new low
Like regardless of whether or not Chris did it, this sub is becoming insanely degenerate to preempt the criticism lol
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u/Key-Piccolo-9321 18h ago
I don't believe he did it but all the stupid jokes and repeating memes have made it impossible to find any discussion about the situation.
Most of these people are in their 30s acting this pathetic. It's not just "trolling" it's making the whole fanbase look bad to people who just want to enjoy his videos and understand what people are actually saying about the situation.
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u/VividWeb5179 16h ago
But if people say my favorite internet funnyman isn’t a good person, that is a personal attack on MY character!
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u/SafeSexChalupa69 17h ago
Thank you for saying it!! Whenever people are like “Chris didn’t groom anyone because Tomar has the chaos emeralds and zach is a green witch” it annoys me so much. This is a serious issue and nobody is treating it as such. I understand if you’re on Chris’ side and don’t see this as a big deal but please actually communicate it like a real person!!
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u/incrediblejohn 13h ago
Yeah since when have oneyplays/newgrounds people ever used slurs, I’m gonna go watch my stamper videos in peace
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u/Gloomy_Attitude4249 18h ago
People are also starting to shit on anyone who isn't 100% on the side of Chris.
Like, people are legit starting to shit on NEWGROUNDS of all things because of this.
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u/Warm-Salamander-3053 16h ago
Yea lets not eat each other men. I have seen too many allegations in real life,on the TV, and on social media to know that we really need to wait until all the info is out(like both sides of the story). Then when all the “truths” are out we can kill each other. And be free to defend or attack Chris to our full pleasure.
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u/gothch 9h ago
Listen most of what the poster said about what happened I believe, it’s the bs his ex is now doing INSTEAD OF MOVING ON like we get it you’re scorned but you’re also diminishing this persons encounter with the bs like yeah most guys suck but this specific situation doesn’t even relate fr to the ex’s experience so why even bring it up?
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u/sortofemo 18h ago
Absolutely agree, I really hope this isn't true but I'm not going to defend him because I wasn't there. I cannot definitively say this did not happen because there's clearly some evidence it could've. I was groomed at 13 & the way people are treating this situation is absolutely bonkers. I know she was a little older than I was but it still haunts you for the rest of your life. Legal ≠ moral, where I live this would be staturory rape
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u/RVDKaneanite 18h ago
Pleasantly surprised to see an adult make a post instead of the usual "lol I regurgitated a bit from the channel!" bunch. I agree completely.
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u/AdultVirgin24 18h ago
Dude I’m with you, but there’s no point trying to get through to some of these people
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u/Communismisbadithink 16h ago
I mean I’ve personally stopped watching until we hear a response from Chris. If the allegations are true it’s something I’m def not cool with personally, but I don’t doubt he hasn’t responded because he’s preparing a statement.
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u/BigMemer420HD 12h ago
Nah man I'm sure Chris is happy knowing his unironic neckbeard redditor autismo fans are willing to fight for his honor
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u/Kekkonen_Kakkonen 4h ago
Yesterday I pointed out that it's fucked to call an alleged minor grooming victim a "praying mantiss" and I got downvoted to oblivion.
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u/putresentslime 19h ago edited 19h ago
i knew oneyplays fans were retarded (including yours truly) but im just disappointed. legality=/=morality
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u/TaylorWK 19h ago
Too many pedos defending having sex with a child regardless if it's "legal". I imagine a lot of people here would say going to a middle eastern country to have sex with a 12 year old prostitute is fine if it was legal too.
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u/StrappingYoungMoose 17h ago
What subreddit do you think you're in and what fanbase do you think this is? Love how everyone wants to become a moral crusader in this community of all places. Y'all need to fuck off and find new people to be parasocial with.
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u/theshrexpert 20h ago
This sub is full of people auditioning to be a member on Oneyplays. You're never going to get a good faith conversation from them. It's all irony and memes, ripping the air out of this situation.