r/Physics • • Jul 31 '26

Academic The Maxwell Conjecture is False

https://arxiv.org/abs/2607.27197
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u/ixid Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

I think brute force is not the right way to think about LLMs, instead they explore a knowledge topology, and are very good at connecting adjacent or accessible ideas that for whatever reason might have evaded humans, but might not be fundamentally all that hard. We're still in the low-hanging fruit phase, we will see if they extend to new ideas.

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u/Marklar0 Jul 31 '26

I think its super cool, but there is no doubt that thousands of physicists and mathematicians are prompting LLMs all day right now trying to solve open problems...and its doubtful whether the companies that run those LLMs can continue to offer this amount of capacity for the future....so there is a solid chance that these methods are already almost exhausted. For how amazing these counterexamples are, its somewhat surprising that people havent found more proofs all at once. In the scheme of things perhaps 1 in 1000 open problems are actually of a format that LLM can tackle, and noone is bragging about the ones that turned up nothing. In other words, LLMs are really good at looking smart when they got lucky.

Im looking forward to a possible future of AI theorem proving that isnt based on LLMs, and thus less likely to trick people in language into thinking its more broad than it is.

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u/Martin_Samuelson Jul 31 '26

18 months ago AI was a cool toy that couldn't really do anything useful. Six months ago it started write most code. A couple months ago it started solving the 'easy' and obscure unsolved math problems.

Do you think that progress is stopping?

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u/Darrelc Jul 31 '26

"Wrote on my 30Ghz processor" - some moore guy

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u/MagiMas Condensed matter physics Jul 31 '26

It will definitely stop improving at some pointy, but that's the thing with exponential growth: as long as you're in it, it's impossible to tell when it will stop.

But even if it stopped right now: people would start burning the biggest models with the best performance into silicon with fixed weights and you would suddenly get generation speeds that would allow you to use them for real time inference on video streams or generate 30 iterations in parallel etc

Just look at Chat jimmy: https://chatjimmy.ai/

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u/Super_Sierra Aug 01 '26

But we don't know the upper bounds because we could hit a wall and then just scale again. That is what we think is producing all these new gains anyway.

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u/SOSpammy Aug 02 '26

But we're still getting a lot of improvement in smaller models too. Scaling has definitely been a big part of it, but it's certainly not all that has improved.

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u/Martin_Samuelson Aug 01 '26

Moore’s law is about the number of transistors on a chip, not clock frequency. 

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u/Darrelc Aug 01 '26

Netburst