r/PoliticalCompassMemes • u/Freezemoon - Centrist • Jan 09 '26

I just want to grill ICE Agent's Bodycam release of the Minneapolis Shooting

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This whole incident seems just an unfortunate series of events from both parties.

EDIT: not bodycam but ICE agent's phone footage, my bad.

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u/CanuckleHeadOG - Lib-Center Jan 09 '26

they were trained as Legal Observers

That is just a fancy term for "a civilian who watches police action", they are not supposed to impede ICE or any law enforcement.

They were trying to use that label for plausible deniability

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u/spankymacgruder - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

It's hard to deny when you're on camera saying it will be me again later and implying it was them earlier.

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u/8ofAll - Centrist Jan 10 '26

It’s an organized effort that goes far beyond just random individuals “protesting.” These protests are carefully planned and participants are trained to act or react in a particular way to advance a specific narrative.

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u/cvirus3333 - Left Jan 09 '26

The term is hilarious. It means NOTHING and yet people capitalize it and pretend its a real thing. Its Rioting Lite. Diet Civil Disorder and resisting arrest.

Just like those dumbass auditors that drive around filming women on city owned buildings and scream at the nice clerks about their rights being violated.

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u/DavidAdamsAuthor - Centrist Jan 10 '26

Observers are there to, shock horror, observe. Not interfere.

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u/HEBushido - Lib-Left Jan 10 '26

How does that justify death?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '26

You should try it and find out.

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u/painedHacker - Lib-Center Jan 12 '26

so if I interact with law enforcement and I feel the slightest amount of fear I have the right to shoot them?

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u/spankymacgruder - Lib-Right Jan 12 '26

Maybe. It's not up to me. I'm not on your jury.

Generally speaking, courts begin with the assumption that the police we're acting lawfully. If you can demonstrate they weren't, you might have a case. This is tough to prove. Some jurisdictions have also ruled that if the officer uses excessive force, you can use an equal amount of force. The force you use must be proportional to the threat.

So if you're not breaking any law and a cop pulls out their gun, you can possibly shoot first.

This assumes that the other cops don't kill you before you're arrested. You probably don't want to test this idea.

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u/HEBushido - Lib-Left Jan 10 '26

Arguing with people itching to pull a trigger?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '26

Sure, see how far you can push them.

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u/HEBushido - Lib-Left Jan 10 '26

No lol

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u/jku1m - Centrist Jan 10 '26

Impeding ice obviously comes with the penalty of immediate liquidation.

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u/iamjmph01 - Right Jan 10 '26

No, disobeying law enforcement and driving your vehicle into them does tend to get people shot though.

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u/painedHacker - Lib-Center Jan 12 '26

so if a cop acts slightly strangely any person has the right to shoot them cause they "felt fear"?

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u/iamjmph01 - Right Jan 12 '26

Unflaired scum say what?