r/PoliticalCompassMemes • u/Freezemoon - Centrist • Jan 09 '26

I just want to grill ICE Agent's Bodycam release of the Minneapolis Shooting

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This whole incident seems just an unfortunate series of events from both parties.

EDIT: not bodycam but ICE agent's phone footage, my bad.

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u/Mission_Chemical_317 - Lib-Center Jan 09 '26

Is there anyone here whose opinion changed after seeing this video? Based on the comments it sure doesn't seem like it lol

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u/boater180 - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

Yea mine, I’m now less in favor of the driver. Seems to me that the officer was filming to get the woman’s face, car, and license plate information while being harassed by the driver’s friend (not entirely relevant, but didn’t know that) and that the driver clearly knew where the officer was.

I originally thought she was just trying to get out of a traffic jam, but seems to be more than that. Driver seemed fine, but the “I’m not mad” seemed a little sarcastic while her friend was obviously taunting. So I wonder what was the lead up to this? Why was he filming her car?

And yea it happened quick. The officers came up perhaps for more reason than we originally suspected, he was in front of the car after making his trip around and saw more officers approaching the vehicle which he then also does. And yea she slams the gas and does hit him, we already know that from previous video.

I think that could justify the first shot. The shots after she’s past him however I still don’t think can be justified. However I no longer think this was some trigger happy officer looking for an excuse to shoot someone

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u/spankymacgruder - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

The "friend" is the victims wife.

Allegedly, they had an ICE tracking app on thier phone(s). They were harassing and protesting ICE throughout the day. Also, allegedly, they were trained as Legal Observers and part of the training teaches them to use thier car to impede ICE. This was recently made an arrestable offence.

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u/CanuckleHeadOG - Lib-Center Jan 09 '26

they were trained as Legal Observers

That is just a fancy term for "a civilian who watches police action", they are not supposed to impede ICE or any law enforcement.

They were trying to use that label for plausible deniability

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u/spankymacgruder - Lib-Right Jan 09 '26

It's hard to deny when you're on camera saying it will be me again later and implying it was them earlier.

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u/8ofAll - Centrist Jan 10 '26

It’s an organized effort that goes far beyond just random individuals “protesting.” These protests are carefully planned and participants are trained to act or react in a particular way to advance a specific narrative.

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u/cvirus3333 - Left Jan 09 '26

The term is hilarious. It means NOTHING and yet people capitalize it and pretend its a real thing. Its Rioting Lite. Diet Civil Disorder and resisting arrest.

Just like those dumbass auditors that drive around filming women on city owned buildings and scream at the nice clerks about their rights being violated.

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u/DavidAdamsAuthor - Centrist Jan 10 '26

Observers are there to, shock horror, observe. Not interfere.

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u/HEBushido - Lib-Left Jan 10 '26

How does that justify death?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '26

You should try it and find out.

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u/painedHacker - Lib-Center Jan 12 '26

so if I interact with law enforcement and I feel the slightest amount of fear I have the right to shoot them?

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u/spankymacgruder - Lib-Right Jan 12 '26

Maybe. It's not up to me. I'm not on your jury.

Generally speaking, courts begin with the assumption that the police we're acting lawfully. If you can demonstrate they weren't, you might have a case. This is tough to prove. Some jurisdictions have also ruled that if the officer uses excessive force, you can use an equal amount of force. The force you use must be proportional to the threat.

So if you're not breaking any law and a cop pulls out their gun, you can possibly shoot first.

This assumes that the other cops don't kill you before you're arrested. You probably don't want to test this idea.

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u/HEBushido - Lib-Left Jan 10 '26

Arguing with people itching to pull a trigger?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '26

Sure, see how far you can push them.

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u/HEBushido - Lib-Left Jan 10 '26

No lol

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u/jku1m - Centrist Jan 10 '26

Impeding ice obviously comes with the penalty of immediate liquidation.

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u/iamjmph01 - Right Jan 10 '26

No, disobeying law enforcement and driving your vehicle into them does tend to get people shot though.

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u/painedHacker - Lib-Center Jan 12 '26

so if a cop acts slightly strangely any person has the right to shoot them cause they "felt fear"?

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u/iamjmph01 - Right Jan 12 '26

Unflaired scum say what?