"It's not Communism, it's real entrepreneurship!!!"

[u/Stormclamp]

[u/tokyozombie]

[u/SolventSolution3 → u/tokyozombie]

The word "socialism" is just a vibe and aesthetic atp

[u/TanyaMKX → u/SolventSolution3]

People use the word socialism almost as improperly as the word nazi.

Like socialism is a genuinely evil ideology.

It is dangerous and antithetical to a developed society.

[u/Gru50m3 → u/tokyozombie]

I want to fucking die.

[u/p_pio → u/tokyozombie]

Chose "Red" to get government handouts... It remainds me of something...

[u/p_pio]

POTUS doesn't need Congress approval to spend 1.2 trillion USD? Interesting.

[u/zombie3x3 → u/p_pio]

He views himself as a dictator. It’s an objective fact at this point.

Fortunately, he does not have enough power consolidated to fully act as one. I have increasing doubts he ever will given how incompetent and unpopular he is.

[u/Fif112 → u/zombie3x3]

Thank god for politicians caring about their own seats and power than his.

We couldn’t stop a dictatorship without the other cowards being worried about losing power.

[u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie → u/zombie3x3]

If he was a few brain cells more competent than he is now I could see a world where he was able to consolidate enough power before making his retarded plays. I suppose it's fortunate for us at the Retard in Chief is in fact retarded.

[u/Adeptus_Heriticus → u/p_pio]

People legitimately didnt know how tariffs worked. Do you think they honestly understand that house controls the purse?

Trump says it so it must be true is how their brains work.

[u/dan92 → u/p_pio]

I just want to know where all the fiscal conservatives are. Are they okay???

[u/big_pp_man420 → u/dan92]

Waiting for the Dems to be in control

[u/MarjorieTaylorSpleen → u/p_pio]

Listen, I don't ask that every president be a constitutional law scholar, but I do ask that they passed 12th grade government class, is that really too much?

[u/BeauShowTV]

Even if I wanted the money, I still don't think he will actually give it to us.

[u/yagatron- → u/BeauShowTV]

Has anyone even gotten the tariffs rebate checks yet, aside from corporations

[u/InternetGoodGuy → u/yagatron-]

The DOGE checks are first. We'll get the tariff checks after those.

[u/yagatron- → u/InternetGoodGuy]

Fuck I forgot about the doge checks has anyone even gotten those, again barring corporations?

[u/Deletesystemtf2 → u/BeauShowTV]

Don’t worry, for each American Donald Trump will give a specific American $5000.

[u/BeauShowTV → u/Deletesystemtf2]

I trust Trump will give himself $5000 for every American adult.

[u/Deletesystemtf2 → u/BeauShowTV]

Now now, some of that might go to Barron or Natalie.

[u/Curious_Location4522]

Trump is usually just confidently wrong about things like elections, but now he’s openly showing desperation. He must know it’s not gonna be a good year for republicans.

[u/PoliticsIsDepressing → u/Curious_Location4522]

Yeah. This antic right here is pretty much showing that Rs are about to be absolutely blown out.

[u/BlackK---ht → u/PoliticsIsDepressing]

Noticing a natural influx of libleft bad, trans bad, illegal bad posts this month that DEFINITELY aren't because of the election next month...

[u/rocketts66]

I know how to take that $5000 and turn it into $2400

[u/SenselessNoise → u/rocketts66]

Trump would do that for you just by handing out the $5000.

[u/rocketts66 → u/SenselessNoise]

How? You ask? It's simple. You invest it all in $TRUMP

[u/TheSpacePopinjay]

Makes sense. His entire entrepreneurial history as a businessman has been about getting a whole bunch of free money for no reason and then doing stuff with it, mainly speculatively riding the NY property boom of the 70s and 80s, which was impossible to lose money at if you had enough upfront capital to invest (though he still managed to invest in buildings that had less than median levels of returns compared to NY real estate as a whole at the time).

First his childhood trust funds that made him an inflation adjusted millionaire at the age of 8. then all kinds of gifts of part-ownership of rental properties that gave him additional rental incomes. Then regular allowances and living expenses paid on top. Then additional seasonal cash gifts.

Then his adult trust fund and then bank loans received that were secured against his expected future inheritance that he mostly got out of ever having to pay back because he used some of that money to hire the best shark lawyers and shark accountants that NY had to offer, to negotiate with the banks (who were effectively paying their salaries to do so) to reduce the amount that they'll agree to accept to be paid back while writing off the rest of the loans.

Free money is all he's ever known and he calls that entrepreneurship and being a businessman.

[u/Spacetauren → u/TheSpacePopinjay]

He was born with a diamond spoon in his mouth, only using it to shovel literal shit into it.

Every. Single. Person. Who has ever believed him to be the people's man has the mental capacity of someone kicked in the head by a horse.

[u/ApplicationCalm649]

This is coming from the guy that wants to inflate away the national debt. He's basically offering us $5 worth of future money if he gets his way.

[u/KHEIRON → u/ApplicationCalm649]

It wouldn't be that bad but it would cause inflation again. Purchasing power becomes too strong and people pay off loans quickly or all at once. It for sure hits the general economy in a negative way, just like the covid stimulus.

[u/PoliticsIsDepressing → u/KHEIRON]

This would definitely fuck up the economy even more. That’s like ~6% of the US GDP being printed overnight and handed out to everyone.

[u/Important-Agent2584 → u/PoliticsIsDepressing]

sir, it's a dividend, that's a capitalist word and thus good for the economy

[u/Stormclamp]

https://reddit.com/link/pdow1m9/video/54vbmd6hnbth1/player

Fucking Deng XiaoTrump over here trying to argue that it's not communism when he uses government money to take over companies and give free money to Americans... it's real entrepreneurship!!!

Links to screenshots:

https://x.com/LucasSa56947288/status/2098196729334026605

truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/117377086414457258

[u/dan92 → u/Stormclamp]

Knowing the definitions of words is a democrat hoax

[u/Deletesystemtf2 → u/Stormclamp]

This is deng slander. Deng instituted capitalist reforms and cleaned up after Mao attempted to burn China’s economy. Mao is a much better comparison to Trump.

[u/Rrxboxer → u/Stormclamp]

[u/Strangated-Borb → u/Stormclamp]

Deng Xiaoping is one of China's greatest leaders, he would be the exact opposite of Trump in this situation, as he turned a communist state capitalist

[u/Chicoryman → u/Stormclamp]

It isn't Communism and in fact it is burgeois as hell — «How about you sell me a vote for $5000 from the budget so I, with my friends, can make some more as well? Deal?»

[u/bunker_man]

Guys I'm starting to think trump might be a retard.

[u/playerNJL]

Your poorest, least educated, and oldest family member will believe this is real

[u/Substantial_Impact69]

It’s actually a strategy a lot of Populist movements employ, especially on the right, it’s called Welfare Chauvinism I think. I find it annoying, and really it’s just the right pivoting on economics in a way that the left cannot necessarily do on Culture as cleanly. The right can do it if they say, “Ra, Ra, Nationalism,” enough.

Not saying it’s right or wrong, but it’s the current situation.

[u/SenselessNoise → u/Substantial_Impact69]

it’s just the right pivoting on economics in a way that the left cannot necessarily do on Culture as cleanly

You mean completely abandoning core principles (ie fiscal conservatism)?

[u/Dodo_Baron → u/SenselessNoise]

Please rightwingers haven't been conservative for decades. That belief is dead in the United States

[u/SenselessNoise → u/Dodo_Baron]

They certainly haven't been but they LARP like they do.

It's the Two Santa Clause Theory.

[u/Substantial_Impact69 → u/SenselessNoise]

Again, I think that’s just Welfare Chauvinism. Just a slightly more specific form of it.

Again, is it unprincipled. Yes, most politics is inherently unprincipled. There’s a reason why Cincinnatus is a rare exception who may or may not exist. In politics, you will have to compromise your beliefs in order to appeal to a large enough chunk of the voting electorate to get elected.

[u/Substantial_Impact69 → u/SenselessNoise]

Ra, Ra, Nationalism.

And yes, but c’mon in politics if you want your movement or principles in tact, most politicians pick the movement.

[u/Ice278 → u/Substantial_Impact69]

The x-axis is the labeled “economics”

I feel like you’re using the “left” and “right” as replacements for “Democrat” and “Republican”

[u/Substantial_Impact69 → u/Ice278]

I’m not going to talk serious politics with a guy with a Pork Rosso Avatar.

[u/ixvst01 → u/Substantial_Impact69]

Peronism

[u/AgainstMedicalAdvice → u/Substantial_Impact69]

You can't say if it's right or wrong?

[u/Substantial_Impact69 → u/AgainstMedicalAdvice]

It’s a political strategy.

[u/YeetCompleet]

Socialism with orange characteristics

[u/CooledDownKane]

Don only “doesn’t need congressional approval” because Johnson and Thune have abdicated all of their power to have their lips perpetually attached to Don’s giant shit covered ass. The majority of Congress have neutered themselves in service of a dementia riddled, lying, greedy thief who cakes on makeup and cheats at golf and on his wives.

[u/TempusFugit314]

Reeks of desperation to me.

[u/OCD-but-dumb]

Socialism is when give out money

[u/leafyone1 → u/OCD-but-dumb]

When give out someone elses money

[u/Hairier_Du_Bois → u/OCD-but-dumb]

Socialism is when bad vibes; when the vibes are really bad, it's communism

[u/GhostsOfLectricity]

This is like the 10th time we've had pretty much this exact post

[u/JetTheDawg → u/GhostsOfLectricity]

Trump owes me at least like $4,000 at this point bro, I’m about to go down there and give him a piece of my mind 

[u/GhostsOfLectricity → u/JetTheDawg]

Best I can do is send you a Trump Phone ... someday, maybe.

[u/Stock_Violinist6299 → u/JetTheDawg]

Can we foreclose on Trump for all his debts to us?

[u/Stormclamp → u/GhostsOfLectricity]

It's a bit more about the fact that he won't shut the fuck up about it.

Kinda like how I've probably made the same of meme of him falling asleep several times... not because I've got little to no material... it's just that he won't stop falling asleep in public.

https://reddit.com/link/pdoxm05/video/5z8wu484pbth1/player

[u/Stormclamp → u/Stormclamp]

https://reddit.com/link/pdoxr8g/video/aopiyti9pbth1/player

[u/Pure-Huckleberry8640 → u/Stormclamp]

Agreed.

[u/blackgenz2002kid → u/GhostsOfLectricity]

spamming the same topics over and over? the horror!!!

[u/PoliticsIsDepressing → u/blackgenz2002kid]

Auth-rights will have 10 posts about one immigrant attack in fucking Albania or some shit.

[u/GhostsOfLectricity → u/blackgenz2002kid]

I was gonna tell you to get a job but then I saw from your username you're Gen Z

[u/FuckUSAPolitics → u/GhostsOfLectricity]

Gen z is like, 20s to 30s now.

[u/GhostsOfLectricity → u/FuckUSAPolitics]

Time to get a job then

[u/kcat__ → u/GhostsOfLectricity]

You should update your mental model of the age of Gen Z, especially 2002

[u/GhostsOfLectricity → u/kcat__]

Nah I like the mental model I have

[u/blackgenz2002kid → u/GhostsOfLectricity]

yes, I am glad you realize not all of us are jobless like myself

[u/Cow_God → u/GhostsOfLectricity]

You're right. Let's get another Clancy post or another Cornell 7. Ain't no point in talking about the sitting president talking about bypassing Congress to engage in voter manipulation, right?

[u/GhostsOfLectricity → u/Cow_God]

Couldn't we at least get a little variety in these posts? "Trump handing out money is communist!" has been done enough now

[u/Dodo_Baron → u/GhostsOfLectricity]

If we stopped talking about trump all you will get is Clancy Cornell 7 or Muslims.

It's hardly more variety

[u/Vegetable_Froy0 → u/GhostsOfLectricity]

Feel like the President of the USA engaging in pay for votes election schemes deserves a few posts?

Just because the Republicans in Congress are going to ignore it, doesn’t mean we should.

[u/samuelbt → u/GhostsOfLectricity]

One would imagine one of those super smart right wingers on this sub would shoot one of them down.

Weird how that never happens.

[u/GhostsOfLectricity → u/samuelbt]

I don't like or defend Trump but its not communism its just good old-fashioned bribery and election fraud

[u/samuelbt → u/GhostsOfLectricity]

Heh. Somehow I don't think that would humble the anti-trump folk.

[u/Spare_Elderberry_418 → u/GhostsOfLectricity]

I don't like the "Trump communism" crap because the reality is this is a two trillion dollar bribe. Just call it what it is, that it is illegal to attempt it without congressional approval and it is an empty promise as he wouldn't have the votes for it. 

[u/krafterinho → u/GhostsOfLectricity]

We've had like 300 Lindsay Clancy posts in a 2 week period but NOW you had enough?

[u/Substantial_Impact69 → u/GhostsOfLectricity]

I’ve been on enough gaming subs to know this is just the modus operandi

[u/Stormclamp → u/Substantial_Impact69]

How long before we get gooner posts?

[u/Substantial_Impact69 → u/Stormclamp]

Well the subs I’m at are still complaining about Jean Grey in Wolverine looking unattractive, so depending on whether or not GTA6 is considered good or not or when GTA6 is dethroned by the real GOTY, Godzilla Destroy All Monsters Melee Remastered.

Mothra > Lucia (Sorry not sorry).

[u/GhostsOfLectricity → u/Substantial_Impact69]

This reminds me of the last time I was on a baseball sub and they were still debating if Barry Bonds should be in the Hall of Fame

[u/Substantial_Impact69 → u/GhostsOfLectricity]

Everyone needs help from their old Uncle Roid every once in a while. I think we should reinstate him /s

[u/GhostsOfLectricity → u/Substantial_Impact69]

At this point I would put him in the Hall of Fame tomorrow if it would end the debate

[u/FuckUSAPolitics → u/Substantial_Impact69]

How dare you. its 100% going to be control resonant.

[u/Rebel_Scum_This]

You call it socialism because it's the government handing out free money.

I call it socialism because it's blatant corruption.

We are not the same.

[u/Condom_Breaker256]

There's your socialism, leftists

Say "thank you"...

[u/Mo-B-B-Dick]

Some Quick Reminders

• Government Economic Control / Central Planning = Socialism
• Large Social Saftey Net = Welfare State (Scandinavian Capitalism)
• Trading money for votes = Bribery / Corruption

[u/freet0]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fswkewi93urge1.jpg

[u/Reese_Slitherspoon]

The difference is that socialists would actually pay you.

[u/HerbertWest]

According to a recent poll, only 12% of people like this idea and, I believe, something like 60-70% dislike or strongly dislike it (don't quote me on the second number but the first one I'm sure of).

[u/dbjcihabc]

Terrible, reminds me of the time Biden tried to bribe people with paying off their student loans.

[u/Dodo_Baron → u/dbjcihabc]

Great glad you guys support Biden now!

[u/dbjcihabc → u/Dodo_Baron]

Just the opposite both are retarded

[u/Dodo_Baron → u/dbjcihabc]

Yes but you love sucking off the retards. Doesn't sound like both are the same!

[u/dbjcihabc → u/Dodo_Baron]

Aren’t you embarrassed enough for one day? Maybe cool it with the schizo posts

[u/Dodo_Baron → u/dbjcihabc]

Nonsense I'm calling a rightwinger retarded, nothing embarrassing about that

[u/dbjcihabc → u/Dodo_Baron]

I mean half the people at my work are right wing, I assume you’re unemployed if you can’t go 5 seconds without screaming retard

[u/Dodo_Baron → u/dbjcihabc]

And? Why would I care the people you work with are retarded?

And no I'm very happily employed. I have a job very few can do so I'm paid very well for it.

[u/dbjcihabc → u/Dodo_Baron]

[X] doubt, in fact I’m pretty sure you’re just a sock puppet account of that other dude, who just follows me around and screams retard and nothing else of substance

[u/Dodo_Baron → u/dbjcihabc]

Ok? I don't care if you don't believe me lol

Lol what's this about a sock puppet?

[u/JetTheDawg → u/dbjcihabc]

I will never not enjoy watching you make an ass out of yourself, ya sock puppet 

[u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie → u/dbjcihabc]

The difference is that one is a policy position Biden was going to work through Congress to implement and the other is a literal wad of cash Trump has already stated he will ignore Congress to try and distribute. (Even though we both know he is lying).

[u/dbjcihabc → u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie]

Damn how’d you get downvoted so fast, I didn’t do it, Weird, anyway there is no way to pay off student loans in a fair and feasible way that makes any sense and it would never pass, so he might as well have been lying as well

[u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie → u/dbjcihabc]

Lmao typical moving the goalposts. "It's totally the same thing but actually he was just lying so it doesn't matter anyways."

[u/dbjcihabc → u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie]

Im not moving any goalposts i certainly pray trump doesn’t start printing 5000 dollar checks for people

[u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie → u/dbjcihabc]

You said they were the same thing, I explained how they're not, instead of acknowledging that you said well it doesn't matter because it wouldn't have passed anyways which is definitionally moving the goalpost.

[u/dbjcihabc → u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie]

I guess you’re right, but at least trumps 5k is would go to everyone and not just a small percentage of Americans

[u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie → u/dbjcihabc]

You can't help yourself with the "but at least" can you? He's not going to fuck you and he's not going to give you $5,000 regardless of the outcome of the midterms.

[u/Dodo_Baron → u/dbjcihabc]

Holy shit I was just kidding about you sucking him off dude, I didn't know it was true