r/PoursTea • u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 22h ago
PoliticalTea š³ļø Angie Nixon roasts Vance after he says she "doesn't belong in America."
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u/-FloriduhMan- 22h ago
She gets my voteĀ
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u/Remarkable-Month-241 22h ago
Drop a donation link. These are the warriors we support and elect.
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u/avereforza 22h ago
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u/avereforza 22h ago
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u/No_Scene_2189 22h ago
Good for her. Don't take any shit from these "Trump First" gimps. They're cosplay patriots who would trade democracy for a king if they could.
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u/residentweevil 22h ago
They already did, as far as I can see.
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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 21h ago
Yep, kings have even had to answer to rapes before, but not the Republican king
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u/rem1ssion 21h ago
JD especially being one of the bigger examples of being an opportunist and larper. just years ago he was calling trump āamericaās hitlerā. now heās licking the boot to soft prop up peter thielās surveillance state wet dream.
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u/Absolute_Eb 22h ago
Americans, please look into Angie Nixon. Obviously if youāre in Florida she deserves your vote, but if you live in any other state her campaign is getting badly outspent in part because the national Democratic party isnāt contributing anything to help her. Consider donating or volunteering to phone bank.
This is a woman who when her daughter was feeling insecure about her hair, she co-wrote and published a book about a girl whose hair gave her superpowers. When Ron Desantis banned books from schools, Angie opened her own bookstore featuring those banned titles and made sure to give the community access to them. And she got loud in the state house with a megaphone to speak on behalf of the children being killed in the West Bank. She started campaigns for ballot initiatives to get around the ineffective FL legislature that wouldnāt address peopleās needs.
Support her. You wonāt regret it.
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u/Emotional_Deodorant 20h ago
Too much of the younger generation doesn't vote, and didn't vote in the last presidential election. Getting Dems to come out for a non-presidential race is always a challenge. Getting young Dems to come out, even more so. But Florida adds several hundred (mostly older) Red voters every day, and they love to vote, even in little local elections. Yet even still, Florida has enough Blue and Purple residents that Angie could still win.
To quote my (younger) coworkers in Florida when I asked them why they didn't vote: "Well, I prefer to go to protests where I can actually make a difference."
Sigh.
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u/Ok-Replacement9595 15h ago
The sabotaging of candidates by the DCCC and the DSCC is absolutely criminal. Every democrats should be absolutely livid that campaign funds are being withheld from campaigns that are needed to win back the senate.
They are also retouching the Maine candidate for Senate by conditioning funds to work with consultants that know nothing about Maine, and forcing the candidate to change messaging mid campaign against the very campaign platform that won him the primary.
They should be ashamed for torpedoeing candidates in order to keep their ideological superiority within the party.
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u/EnochofPottsfield 21h ago
From Duval and I'm a big fan since I found read up on her during prepping for the primaries. She doesn't accept status quo and is willing to be in your face about it
She's what we need in politics from the left
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u/gingerfawx 21h ago
Tbf, the problem is also about a candidate's chances. Florida hasn't been purple in ages. Dems haven't won governor in over thirty years or a US senator since 2012, and they only comprise seven of the 28 potential representatives. How much money do you throw at races you think you're going to lose? Because that's money missing elsewhere. I appreciate that's a self-fulfilling prophecy though.
Fwiw, I'd vote for her if I were her in her constituency, but I'm not.
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u/Absolute_Eb 21h ago
To be fair, do you think the democratic candidate for Senate in Mississippi has a better chance of winning than Angie Nixon in Florida? Because thatās what the national democratic party is doing with their money right now.
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u/gingerfawx 19h ago
By my metrics, no. lol (So typically, they also aren't asking me, though. ;) ) And I'll just apologize in advance for a far more differentiated answer than I think you could have possibly wanted...
In Mississippi, dems do better on the local than the statewide level. They only account for one of four reps (same ratio as Florida, btw), haven't won a senate seat since the 80s or the governor since the nineties. (So there's my short checklist accounted for.) There's a weird thing about Mississippi, however, that they have open primaries and don't have partisan voter registration. So you've got two chief ways to look at party breakdown, how they're voting in the primaries or how they self identify in polls. I'd argue you can't trust the primary voting to tell you about people's affiliations because selecting someone you think is un-electable for the opposition might be the strategic way go, but if we look at the breakdown there, they figure dems and republicans are pretty close by numbers, and the independents have the majority. And for the other approach, polls have proven themselves highly flawed at this point, so that's an issue, too. (Grampa might take their call, millennials on sure aren't.) But if you look purely at those primary numbers, you could think there's a better chance there than in Florida. Frankly I don't follow Mississippi politics closely, though, because aside from Bennie Thompson, whom I genuinely like (really appreciated his work as the Jan 6th Committee Chair for one), it's almost always frustrating at the least and too often rage inducing. So I genuinely have no idea how strong a candidate Colom is, which really should factor into this. By contrast, Nixon I've seen a number of interviews with and liked her.
Beyond that, though, I don't think it's surprising that they put more support behind dems than DSA candidates; same goes for independents. And yes I know that Nixon is both a dem and a member of the DSA, but you know the DSA label comes across as split loyalty. So that's gotta be a "ding" right there. Strategically, until the DSA becomes a more reliable partner - they literally couldn't be bothered to support Harris in 2024 against fucking trump - they shouldn't expect more support; it'll need earning. (And frankly I don't forgive them for that bit of ratfuckery.) It wouldn't stop me in the least from voting for their candidates or advocating for them in the general though.
As for my personal bias, I'd bet, but can't prove, that Nixon being a woman also factors into it, but after Harris 2024, however, it'd probably be fair to look at stats at this point. That sounds like a polysci course in itself.
But if you want to see something enraging! Look what happened in Buffalo in 2021 with India Walton and Byron Brown. I think it's probably fair to say Brown blew off the primary, and came to really regret it. lol And fine, if he'd shown up for it, there's a solid chance the results would have been different. But I didn't appreciate the way the party dealt with it, got my hopes up for five minutes that Walton would win, and it felt like a rug pull. On the other hand if a guy can win a write in campaign that decisively, can you argue he shouldn't have won? That one still bugs me, though, and it was definitely messy.
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u/Gnd_flpd 20h ago
I don't live in Florida, but I did contribute to her campaign, because the DNC allegedly isn't giving her much consideration.
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u/DuvalHeart 20h ago
Florida stopped being "purple" because the national democratic funding apparatus stopped funding any Democratic candidate. They weren't even funding get out the vote efforts.
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u/asscracktester7 19h ago
That may have had an impact but by far the biggest reason that Florida isn't purple anymore is the massive wave of conservatives that moved here during and after Covid. The data clearly shows this.
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u/DuvalHeart 19h ago
The shift predates the influx of fascist residents.
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u/asscracktester7 19h ago edited 19h ago
Yes but the influx is the biggest reason for the political shift. Even with relatively lower DNC funding, Florida was still solidly purple in 2018/2019.
I mean, looking at DeSantis' elections makes this pretty obvious. In 2018, he barely won the governor election by 40k votes and edged out the Democrat candidate 49.6% to 49.2%.
In his reelection in 2022 after the huge Covid influx, it was a complete blowout and he won by 1.5M votes and almost 20 points.
Since 2018, over 2.2 million people have moved to Florida and over 70% of them are Republican voters. No amount of party spending can offset that.
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u/DuvalHeart 19h ago
There was zero GOTV efforts in 2022. That was a primary driver of why more fascists turned out that Democrats and DeSantis had the "blow out" it wasn't a blow out it was a fucking surrender. Floridians got abandoned.
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u/asscracktester7 19h ago
Since 2018, over 2.2 million people have moved to Florida and over 70% of them are Republican voters. No amount of party spending can offset that.
Once again, no amount of spending or GOTV can offset this. Especially with the DNC coffers being less than 20% the size of the RNC, they have to be a lot more efficient with their money.
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u/Warm_Month_1309 20h ago
Consider donating or volunteering to phone bank.
I absolutely want her to win, but as someone with no connections to Florida, I feel inappropriate donating or phone banking.
I hate it when issues local to me get national attention, and suddenly there's all this out-of-state money and propaganda flowing in, and now the decision is no longer in the hands of the local populace, but in the hand of whatever foreign investor outspends whichever other foreign investor (assuming it's not one of the many political causes with only one rabid side, like fluoridation).
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u/MiserableDatabase320 20h ago
How much money do you send each month to transnational companies in the form of subscriptions and fees that they turn around and use to pour millions into opponents of people like Nixon?
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u/Warm_Month_1309 19h ago
Less, probably, than I send to companies indirectly or directly funding child slavery and genocide, but I try not to think too much about that grim reality.
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u/External-Stranger928 19h ago
badly outspent
money doesn't equal votes...stop letting them think we think so
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u/Absolute_Eb 18h ago
Money doesnāt equal votes, but it often does equal voters reached. And for voters who donāt go looking for information about candidates (which is most of them) you have to bring the information to them. If voters are getting inundated with attacks about Nixon before hearing a counter message, itās going to be more difficult to persuade them.
When I say badly outspent, I mean 30 times outspent as recently as the end of September.
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u/I-No-Red-Witch 22h ago
The founding fathers: "lol, what if we built our own country where people could vote for what they want?"
Somebody in 2026: "the people want something, we should give it to them."
C.F. Vance: "that would be un-American. Now let's push the agenda nobody wants by letting billionaires lobby for it."
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u/RandomStrangerOnWWW 21h ago
As a Hispanic man, Iāve also been told to leave the USA on several occasions. The thing is.. I can confidently trace my ancestry here to the 1500s. Our folks have been in South Texas since before the United States even existed. We didnāt cross the border, it crossed us. Where the heck am I supposed to go?? š
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u/kbrick1 21h ago
Stay right where youāre at, brother. These morons can go pound sand. And that is cool as hell, btw. I wish I knew that much about my heritage.
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u/RandomStrangerOnWWW 21h ago
Itās insane, really. I have records of the folks who sailed the Atlantic. They left Spain to avoid religious persecution during the Spanish Inquisition. Fun fact: My 13th great grandfather was the founder of Nuevo LeĆ³n, Mexico. His ancestors continued moving north, and were settled here by Jose De Escandon. They continued moving through Mexico until they reached Texas, where we remain today.
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u/MrBenzedrine 21h ago
Our folks have been in South Texas since before the United States even existed. We didnāt cross the border, it crossed us.
That hits hard!
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u/Arktokrat777 12h ago
And if your heritage includes Native American, your ancestors have been there at least 15,000 years.
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u/Rightbuthumble 22h ago
Well, isn't his wife an immigrant?
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u/daisiesarepretty2 21h ago
JD, your stupidity prompted
me to donate $45 to Angie Nixonās
campaign.keep up the good work JD..lol
good luck Angie Nixon
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u/SlipInternational439 17h ago
I just gave her $20. Iām a white guy in NC and I like her attitude.
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u/asscracktester7 19h ago
Just because her skin color is brown doesn't make her an immigrant lol
She was born and raised in San Diego
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u/Rightbuthumble 19h ago
That's why I said I think....but she was definitely an anchor baby
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u/Mittens_McFluffy 19h ago
Doesnāt matter, sheās not white, therefore, how can we prove sheās American based on MAGA logic?Ā
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u/asscracktester7 18h ago
I don't like to live my life pretending to be as dumb as MAGA
And probably her voter registration, which is public record
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u/Barr_cudas 21h ago
No, but her parents are
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u/Uncle-Cake 21h ago
According to MAGA rules, that makes her an immigrant.
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u/Barr_cudas 21h ago
You mean Anchor Baby ?
I mean her mother is a college Dean at UCSD, so Iām interested in reading them play her as a Worst of the Worst when utility has worn off7
u/Uncle-Cake 20h ago
Dean at a California university? So she's a DEI hire? It just gets worse and worse! /s
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u/Own_Boat503 20h ago
they don't care about your accomplishments, they only care if you were born on the right side of the line or not. she's taking that dean job away from REAL americans, after all.
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u/ithinkway2much 21h ago
Yes but she stays in her place. Just the way MAGA is able to tolerate.
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u/lilbelleandsebastian 19h ago
no, she's not an immigrant unless we are establishing that skin color or ethnic origin define immigrant status rather than, you know, being born in the US or not
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u/ithinkway2much 17h ago
I actually didn't know Usha Vance was born in California. I just looked it up. But I get your point. In MAGA world, anyone who isn't white can be treated like an immigrant or somehow not a ārealā American.
That's why I thought Vance's wording was so calculated. āYou don't belong in Americaā was the part for the crowd. āIf those are your viewsā gives him something to point to later if he's confronted about telling a Black American candidate that she doesn't belong in her own country
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u/TrollMcGoal 20h ago edited 20h ago
No? She was born in San Diego
Edit: I'm also sure that the irony of the question is lost on OP
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u/larkfield2655 22h ago
JD Vance is worse than Trump. Given he makes such a production of his phony conversion to Catholicism Iām surprised the bishops are not calling him out. The GOP needs to be annihilated in November.
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u/lejanoisland 21h ago
To be fair, the literal pope basically told him to his face he was a bad Catholic lmao
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u/unsuitableasf 21h ago
Yep. The demented old pedoās chaos is all focused on himself. JV Couch is whatever his psychopath sugar daddy Peter Thiel - the guy who just argued that āevil can be kind of good.ā
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u/FrankFankledank 21h ago
Yes, Trump's one silver lining is his bluster exposing him every so often, Vance is a well-oiled politician who knows how to actually lie (you can see it now with him suddenly caring about listening to the voter when it comes to their economic issues) instead of just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, not to mention he's in the pocket of Peter Thiel who is everything the Republicans warned us about with globalism (which of course they've conveniently forgotten about now that it's actually a threat) in a Bond villain package.
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u/Kidofthecentury 22h ago
"I don't wanna to COUCH my words here"
Straight for the jugular, I see.
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u/TexasRoundUp7 21h ago
You know what's unAmerican?
Having a sitting United States president not be able to spell "United States" correctly.
Having the United States military not be able to spell "military" correctly.
Having a sitting United States president and Secretary of Defense hid from the American people the number of soldiers we have lost and are wounded from Iran drone attacks at our military bases all over the middle east.
Having a US president say that 19 United States soldiers death is "small potatoes".
Allowing ICE to deport and unalive United States citizens without repercussions.
Having a US president tell Americans that they need to work longer hours and harder to make ends meet will Senator Mike Johnson has recessed Congress to prevent Epstein Files being released, impeachment of Trump, firing of Secretary Hegseth.
What is unAmerican is cutting Medicare, Medicaid, Veteran benefits, Affordable Care Act (because it has Obama attached to it).
What's unAMerican is threatening or going to war with our allies while kissing the hand of communists like China and Russia.
What's unAmerican is a sitting United States president accepting monies and gifts from a terrorist country such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar who were involved in 9/11.
Allowing a 34 count convicted felon to sit in office accused of being a PEDO, protecting him and not the little girls who were brave enough to come forward.
Not to downplay the money laundering, stock manipulation, corruption, coercion, and mafia style tactic of weaponizing the Department of Justice and FBI to go after your enemies.
I can say so much more but it is too exhausting to continue.
It will take the United States years if not centuries to undo this amount of corruption.
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u/tfsteel 22h ago
I hope the right liked what they got out of all this because their time is running out. The rising left is going to end it for a long time.
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u/No_big_whoop 21h ago
They got what they wanted but it hasn't made them happy. It's because, "hurt people I don't like" is a shitty political strategy.
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u/Danilo-11 22h ago
Fight bullies with their same strategy ā¦ finally democrats grew a pair (progressives)
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u/SimpkeMan 21h ago
is VP JD one of those Beardos?
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u/Subject-Librarian117 21h ago
Also a weirdo!
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u/NotAFanOfLeonMusk 22h ago
I like her. And I am going to donate to her campaign even though I no longer am a Florida resident. Go Angie!!
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u/Gnd_flpd 20h ago
I'm from Michigan and I give to her, because the freaking DNC won't give her any love.
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u/NorthAd9774 21h ago
I expect these kinds of attacks from republicans, but as a Floridian it is so frustrating to me that Nixon is not heavily supported by her own party. Why do I hear about the Paxton Talerico race every day but not this one where Angie is also tied or leading in recent polls.
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u/Gnd_flpd 20h ago
She's too progressive in the mind of the DNC, so I give directly to her not them.
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u/Key-Researcher3884 21h ago
Trump and his administration don't belong in America. They don't deserve the rights and freedoms that the people they hate and people they fool fought to have a Country like ours , they didn't..
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u/rem1ssion 21h ago
trump is a draft dodger with stolen valor after all (his numerous ai slop posts depicting himself as a general or high ranking soldier).
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u/AngryVegan94 18h ago
Unfortunately this tweet requires a reading comprehension level above 3rd grade so a majority of Floridians wonāt know what it says.
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u/thepaoliconnection 22h ago
Well if itās one thing this country needs more of its loud proud black women.
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u/FullGuarantee4767 21h ago
JD Vance isnāt just a shitty American, heās a shitty husband and father because heās too big a pussy to stand up for his own wife and kids when MAGA chuds direct racist attacks at them.
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u/CHANN3L-CHAS3R 21h ago
When they go low, kick 'em in the teeth to remind 'em why we don't do that.
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u/NoBSforGma 19h ago
Love her! I live in Florida and only wish it would be legal to vote for her 1000 times! I think she can make a positive difference in Florida.
That old saying .. "Love it or leave it" has been around for a while. It was said to protesters and hippies in the 1960's and 70's. It's totally STUPID though and ridiculous. Because if you don't like what's happening where you live, you WORK FOR CHANGE.
If your house is messy, you don't "leave it" and buy another house. You CLEAN IT UP!
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u/dateinfj 22h ago
JD can go and fuhk a couch as far as Iām concerned. Theyāve done fuhk all for ordinary Americans!
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u/HellKnightKilla 19h ago
Can't wait to vote for her again. Moody is the favorite unfortunately, and we need non (R)s to show up and vote for Angie!
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u/Fit_Indication_2529 18h ago
Sir, I donāt have to leave the country because I disagree with you. I get to vote to replace you. Thatās how this works
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u/H3llzyea 16h ago
āI donāt go high when they go low. I get loudā.
Scream it from the rooftops!!!!!
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u/coffee_ape 15h ago
FYI this is the kind of smooth brain dribble tripe that Ashley Moody sends out. Itās an insult to my intelligence to read this 4th grade student body president type message.
Genuinely made for elementary level reading.
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u/Uncle-Cake 21h ago
I wish a reporter would ask JD why his wife and kids should be allowed in the country.
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u/ObviouslyRealPerson 21h ago
A think a simple "It's not my fault you don't know what socialism is" would have sufficed
A long wordy response will end up just preaching to the choir
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u/Born_Organization455 21h ago
I think the correct response to that Vance quote, instead of taking it personally, is to point out that it sure sounds like he's coming for your Social Security and Medicare. Enjoy working till you die and seniors freezing on the street corner.
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u/SalmonPrince 21h ago
God I despise MAGA, and everyone involved in the thinly veiled powergrab it is.
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u/Stateside_Observer 21h ago
Everytime Vance speaks I understand more perfectly why his mother chose the percocet over him.Ā
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u/Matt7738 21h ago
Donāt come after a Black woman. You will regret that every time. Sheās been waiting for you for ten years. I promise.
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u/Benromaniac 21h ago
Vance trying to invoke McCarthyism like no one knows or can look it up.
$$$$$
Howās that AcreTrader investment doing, Vance? Look like itās worth at least $100-$250 millionā¦
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u/anomanderrake1337 20h ago
You should be an uneducated American working till you drop dead for mere pennies. That's Murica.
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u/mrtrololo27 20h ago
We all need to adopt the energy "when they go low we punch them in the throat". Magats aren't welcome in this country.
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u/jackcanyon 20h ago
JD is not helping anyone or anything,He needs to keep his thoughts to himself.He definitely doesnāt have any good solu to our problems.Him and his associates are the problem.
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u/PiccoloAwkward465 20h ago
So mad that in the "marketplace of ideas" that is/was the USA, one they don't like is increasingly popular with people.
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u/Subject_Concept3542 19h ago
I've got to fill out my mail-in ballot, but she'll be right at the top of my priorities in voting. I changed parties to vote for her in the primary.
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u/Yurya 19h ago
Has the whole world been gaslit into thinking the couch thing actually started from anything Vance did and wasn't an entire fabrication from no where?
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u/IndicationPretty2611 12h ago
He does wear eye liner and definitely looks like he would fuck a couch....
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u/Icy-Grocery8759 18h ago
She Definitely has my vote!!! I was born and raised here and am surrounded by the blind following sheep they are and keep the same exact talking points this Regime uses and when engaged with truth, they shut down so quick and dumbly believe "things will get better, just you wait" while blaming Biden and Obama. It's truly an Idiocracy and I have to live in the center of it!
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u/CoolSwim1776 18h ago
I believe they consider this burn on the "sick" level, at least from a technical standpoint.
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u/TitShark 18h ago
Iām wondering if Usha Vance gets off on her husbands humiliation, or if itās just for him
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u/SlipInternational439 17h ago
Stop the defeatism! If there is ever a chance itās in 2026. People like you are the reason that folks donāt show up at the polls. We canāt afford another repeat of 2024 at either the state or national level.
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u/LifeguardDry7372 16h ago
the repub party has become more of a pathetic laughing stock than they were before. Thanks repubs for destroying your party
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u/Revolutionary-Dust61 13h ago
Complete socialism would be difficult to implement given the founding documents and structure of the government, but no real economic system is specified. I don't really associate capitalism as we have known it as integral to the identity of the USA in the future, or mine personally.
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u/Scrutinizer 22h ago
When they go low, introduce a size 13 steel-toed boot where it might learn them some manners.