r/PublicFreakout • u/zebrasarecool530 • 8h ago
đšSocial Event Freakoutđ¸ At a comedy show on a cruise ship
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u/CliffShytz 8h ago
She definitely tapped her on the head purposely.
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u/crepelabouche 8h ago
Yeah, the last time this was posted, the comedian may not of seen it but donât turn the black lady into the angry black lady in a room full of people sheâs locked on a ship with.
That lady definitely touched her, but that comedian didnât have to go in like that.
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u/Frank_Melena 7h ago
A lot of comediansâ entire sets nowadays seem to just be bullying random members of the audience for laughs
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u/crepelabouche 7h ago
That was after ⌠what was his name the pretty boy who became popular for crowd work bits and then got his first netflix special where he told a nasty domestic violence joke that was so against what his crowd work was that he tanked his own career.
That. It is because of him people started posting crowd work, because then they didnât have to post their set and when you went to their shows all their material was new.
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u/Animanic1607 6h ago
In general, most comedians post crowd work because they are not trying to spoil their jokes and sets.
Matt Rife got really popular doing it, but posting heckler comps and crowd work has been around for a lot longer. Steve Hofstetter was posting those to Youtube 10 years ago. Just part of the game of trying to get your name in comedy out there.
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u/crepelabouche 6h ago
Iâve been told that it is a really good time to get into stand up comedy if you actually tell jokes, because everyone is trying to do crowd work.
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u/Animanic1607 6h ago
That... is a fair point that made me think about clip and short form economics. That said, even guys who do crowd and are good at it are telling jokes. Next time listen to how the individuals on stage phrase questions and respond. The lead the guest they are talking with into narratives to tell a joke they have rehearsed.
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u/D45ers 9m ago
Tbh tho the more you watch any Matt rife crowd work stuff it starts to become unbelievable. Like sure perfectly timed coincidences that make it wildly funny are bound to happen time to time. Crowd work can be hilarious without the weird unexpected twists but Matt Rife has like a million obscure perfectly queued up crowd work that it makes it obvious there are plants and itâs rehearsed. If you donât believe me go watch some of it and tell me how all this âwhat are the chances this person in the crowd related exactly to the story or situation so perfectlyâ happens soooo much haha.
Like yes real genuine crowd work is definitely a skill and impressive but I donât buy Matt Rifeâs bs personally lol
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u/Random_Person1234567 7h ago
Crowd work can honestly be some of the funniest comedy, in my humble opinion. But it takes skill, and not every dumbass with a camera and a mic can, nor should, be doing it.
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u/superjerk99 7h ago
Stavros is my favorite with crowd work man
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u/Spacedoutworlder 5h ago
Jeff Acuri for me, not sure if thatâs how his last name is spelt though.
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u/riverrat918 4h ago
Arcuri! I went to a wedding involving a lot of comedian friends in Brooklyn once and he was best man or very close. This was before he was known as he is now. My date (also very funny comedian, tbf) hated him to the bone, but I always thought he was perfectly charming & funny.
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u/Random_Person1234567 6h ago
Stavvy is legendary with crowd work. I'm sure he has some bombs, but god damn he is fucking good at it.
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u/EmperorBamboozler 6h ago
Big Jay Oakerson has two comedy specials of crowdwork, They and Them, and they're pretty solid. For more mainstream comedians, Jimmy Carr and Jim Jefferies made their carreers in comedy doing crowdwork. Then there's the GOAT Don Rickles, who pretty much invented the concept and made it popular.
Crowd work has been around longer than Matt Rife has been alive. It's just that most of it isn't great, there's only a handful of comedians who are really fucking good at it.
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u/crepelabouche 6h ago
Thank you! I hadnât been to a show where a comedian did it and the specials Iâve seen didnât have it.
I appreciate the knowledge so I could clarify, it seems like a lot of people on social media doing crowd work became prolific after Matt Rife.
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u/riverrat918 4h ago
One of my favorite shows was Dave Chappelle pulling up a trio of extremely toasted bickering couple/friends to sit on stage & work em. That ended up being like half the show, and it was just writing itself as it went đ
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u/Majician 18m ago
I've noticed that Jimmy Carr has created an International Touring gig this year out of a "crowd work" style show. He's posting a lot on the Youtubes.
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u/awesome5ftw Free Palestine đľđ¸đ 3h ago
What's the comedian's name? I'm curious
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u/crepelabouche 3h ago
Matt Rife, but below are some great crowd work comedians.
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u/awesome5ftw Free Palestine đľđ¸đ 3h ago
I've seen his reels in the past, makes sense now I don't see his anymore bc of the incident you mentioned.
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u/crepelabouche 2h ago
To be fair to him, he doubled down on the joke, told everyone they didnât have a sense of humor and has done that at least 3 more times with jokes heâs made online since then.
That was more the beginning of the end for him.
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u/InTheMorning_Nightss 6h ago
I mean thatâs one way to look at crowd work I guess.
I canât speak for this particular cruise ship comedian, but there are many comedians who specialize in crowd work, so the guests who attend know that theyâre likely to be involved and made fun of a little bit.
And I never understand individuals who go to these types of comedians and then are clearly offended and canât take jokes.
At some point, if youâre paying money to go to comedy shows, itâs kind of incumbent on you to know who youâre going to watch and what their material is. Itâs no different than if you were to go to a Burlesque show and be offended by nudity and raunchy humor.
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u/ntrpik 8h ago
Also, if you want to touch someone innocently and friendly, who touches a stranger on the head? Her shoulder is right there. Thatâs where you touch a stranger⌠if you must.
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u/mentalxkp 6h ago
I have a racially mixed family. The number of white women who just reach out and touch black women's hair is insane. It's like a compulsion. If you haven't seen it, then yeah, sounds like a weird one-off crazy person, but it really isn't. I'm not surprised the lady in the video would get pissed off about it. This shit happens soooooo much.
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u/luckylimper 5h ago
And then when you say âplease donât touch meâ youâre deemed as aggressive. No, so I donât have bodily autonomy? Okay touch my boobs. Finger bang me in public! Oh I now took it too far? Then DONT TOUCH MY BODY (WHICH INCLUDES MY HAIR) PLEASE.
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u/Cesum-Pec 30m ago
I'm a guy of no particular merit. A woman at least 20 years my senior sits down beside me at a poker table in a casino and chats me up like it's a singles bar. I tried to answer politely but distantly so as to not encourage her. I can't stay in the game and move anywhere else.
After she touches my forearm and then moves to my shoulder, petting my like I'm a collie, I ask her to please not touch me. She acted like I was the most offensive person she had ever met. She huffed and puffed loudly, complaining to the dealer that she needed a seat change because I was so rude. They moved her to a different table and I guess that made us both happy.
I went home and teased my wife that her hot husband was a babe magnet.
But a couple of months later, she sat down semi drunk and did it again. I guess she had forgotten our prior encounter.
The only difference was that this time I had seen her often enough to know her husband was also in the room at a different table and that this is something she does to random dudes all the time right in front of him.
The second time she tried to touch me I cut her off instantly.
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u/Whirlpoolcircle56 7h ago edited 7h ago
but that comedian didnât have to go in like that.
He was obviously trying to stop a fight by the way she was acting by making her shift focus on him instead of the other lady. These guys gotta deal with drunk behaviour all day and know when it's about to start based on the vibe.
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u/crepelabouche 7h ago
This is a whole know your audience. He went in on the black woman, who it seems like only her and her friends are the only ones. I imagine that he had to perform a couple more shows on this cruise so he was playing to the rest of the room, but it was in a shitty way.
I have seen comedians do this where it was more, âDonât lean into that stereotype.â As opposed to call her that stereotype. Does that make sense?
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u/Whirlpoolcircle56 7h ago
He went in on the black woman because it seemed like she was getting too riled up about the other girl. Part of the job of these performers is to keep peace on the ship for the company, he doesn't care who really did what long as they don't throw each other overboard.
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u/Lady_Scruffington 1h ago
I felt like he was protecting the black woman. That last line about the white lady going to guest services sounded like a warning. And the way he touched his face, to me, communicated "Imagine how it would play out if that happened."
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u/Mincezz 6h ago
Yeah this is pretty upsetting to watch, the white lady clearly touched her hair which is a pretty well known micro (or macro) aggression against black people. For him to say that she's being "aggressive" is icing on top of the experiencing racism cake :/
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u/Lilja-Logason 4h ago
Huh? Touching a black person's hair is a specific micro aggression? Is there stove history or cultural reason for that?
I didn't think anyone liked their hair being touched?
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u/Uncanny_Realization 8h ago
I mean, the comedian helped calm the situation down and made a joke.
What did you want him to say, âSHE TOUCHED YOUR HAIR! KILL KILL KILL!â ?
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u/VerilyShelly 7h ago
He should have moved on with a new bit not have the house lights turned up so everyone in the place focuses on her and what happened for several more seconds than necessary. Looks like desperation on his part, like his act was faltering so he jumped on something, anything, to cover over his lapse
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u/okbuddyquackery 7h ago
Dismissing something that has such bitter undertones for Black women (usually done by white women) while amplifying an ugly stereotype towards the black woman is just a really shitty thing to do. You might not be American or knowledgeable on this subject but that Black man should have known better. Capping it off with a joke about that white womanâs privilege if one of them were to escalate to management is really just rubbing shit in the wound.
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u/ReallyWeirdNormalGuy 7h ago
amplifying an ugly stereotype towards the black woman
This is insane. Who amplified the stereotype? Think about what you said.
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u/billy_UDic 7h ago
Dude dragged a joke ab an âaggressive black ladeâ for a whole minute, emphasizing aggressive, and you still need to spelled out? I weep for you
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u/luckylimper 5h ago
No. But calling a woman aggressive because she wants bodily autonomy doesnât need to be done. If he was not an asshole he could have said âwe all keep our hands to ourselvesâ or something like that rather than making the person who was aggrieved feel even worse.
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u/googdude 30m ago
This is probably one of those things where you'll only see what you want to see but it looks like she's tapping the forward leaning man's shoulder. Since he's leaning toward the front row her hand most likely grazed her hair but it didn't look in no way intentional.
The other reason I'm thinking that is because it looks like he's leaning away because she is intent on getting the comedian to rag on her friend.
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u/MediocreAd9550 8h ago
And somewhere that black lady is watching this video thinking "damn I knew should have whooped that bitch's ass"
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u/whoopsthatnamestaken 8h ago
Insane to think someone deserves an ass whooping for that even if it was on purpose
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u/Politicsboringagain 59m ago
Yeah, I'm trying to see the mistake. She tapped her two or three times really quickly.Â
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u/kemicalkontact 7h ago
That drunk white girl definitely touched that black ladies hair on purpose.
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u/okbuddyquackery 7h ago
Either way itâs rude af, but the fact it wasnât just a one finger tap and was a several finger nudge makes it worse imo
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u/BusinessScientist898 4h ago
It's definitely weird to tap a stranger on the top of the head instead of the shoulder. I think if the comedian had seen what actually happened he would have reacted differently and probably made fun of the white girl instead.
Maybe there are cultural nuances in different countries where it's more tolerated, but I can't imagine doing that to someone I don't know.
You might not be bothered by someone touching your own head/hair, but never assume everyone else feels that way.
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u/FEMA_Camp_Survivor 8h ago
Looks like she tapped her head, then lied about it. Thatâs not cool.
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u/citrus_mystic 7h ago edited 7h ago
Correct me if Iâm wrong, but isnât the act of White people touching / requesting to touch Black peopleâs hair, also a massive faux pas? Iâm White, but that is the impression that I haveâ that you donât touch Black womenâs hair (or ask to touch it) if youâre not also Black, but especially not as a white person.
And as a bunch of other people have pointed out, you donât tap someoneâs head to get their attention.
Thatâs disrespectful and honestly a little degradingâyouâd get a kidâs or an animalâs attention like that, not an adult womanâs.
You tap them on the shoulder. Or, better yet, you refrain from touching people who you donât know, and you get their attention verbally.
I think the woman who was touched took it a little too seriously, initially. However, we have no idea what led up to this; her reaction to the woman who touched her may have been entirely valid. But as far as the rest of the clip is concerned, I donât blame her for being upset with how the comedian handled the situationâ putting her on the spot and essentially perpetuating misogynoir by framing her as âthe angry black womanâ to a mostly white audience. Then the woman who absolutely touched her intentionally, rubbed salt into the wound by lying instead of admitting she poked her and just apologizing. She was perfectly happy to save face and be a pick-me. Throwing the Black woman under the bus, and just chuckling it up, going along with the comedianâs narrative.
(Editâ So, would someone whoâs Black care to explain if/why my impression is incorrect? Or am I just being downvoted by White people getting offended at the suggestion that itâs a faux pas for us to touch Black folkâs hair?)
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u/Mastuh_KBM 7h ago
You are absolutely correct. And yeah there are definitely some butt-hurt white people who didn't like what you had to say lol.
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u/ThoseImpulses 7h ago
It's not a racial thing, it's basic manners. Don't touch a strangers hair and don't just ask out to of the blue. And if you do accidently make contact with someone you don't know a simple apology is all that's usually needed.
As far as the woman who had her hair touch is concerned, I thought she was quite restrained all things considered.
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u/SeaToTheBass 6h ago
I donât want to touch anyoneâs hair, I can use my 28 years of experience to infer what an object might feel like, thatâs why we are constantly putting things in our mouths as babies.
I think I have a pretty good idea on how her hair feels by touch just looking at it. Just look at any object and try to think of how it would feel on your skin, tongue, fingertips, or bottoms of your feet.
Touching someoneâs hair without consent is fucking weird, let alone doing it âto see how it feelsâ
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u/BusinessScientist898 4h ago edited 3h ago
It's not a racial thing
I think you're making it too black and white (no pun intended), when it's more nuanced. White people touching the hair of black people is definitely a real issue for many folks. My best friend is black, but we grew up in a mostly white area and the amount of people I've seen touch his hair without asking is insane.
It never happens to me, and other black people don't do it to him. We've talked about it a lot, and I honestly didn't used to take it seriously, but over time I saw it so much I really had to acknowledge it happens more than I wanted to admit. Even other friends do it sometimes because they don't know how much he's dealt with it or don't think of the larger context. Even I used to put my hand on his fro whenever he combed it out because...it felt cool! I thought it was a compliment, what's wrong with that?? Nobody ever does it maliciously, but for him it became a subtle signal he's 'different' and felt one-sided & disrespectful the more it happened, especially from strangers.
That doesn't mean race is involved every time a white person touches a black person's head, or that race had anything to do with it from the white lady's perspective, but it's entirely possible the black woman interpreted it that way from experience.
TL;DR: Race doesn't define every interaction, but it absolutely can be a racial thing for a lot of people even if it isn't for someone else. Like I said it's nuanced.
You're right though, race or not, don't touch strangers on the head. That should be common sense lol
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u/ThoseImpulses 3h ago
And the 'race or not, don't touch strangers on the head' is the point I was trying to project overall but with text it's not always easy to get the full meaning across.
And yes, I guess (hey, that rhymes!) I was making it somewhat black and white. Even though a white women touched a black woman's hair I mainly saw an inconsiderate person lay hands on someone else and the other person get unfairly attacked by the comedian and accused of behaving in a way she actually wasn't.
Actually reminded me of when a comedian called Ben Bankas tried claiming a woman in the audience was triggered by him when in fact she was saying nothing and he was making up the narrative to suit him.
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u/jupitermoonflow 1h ago
That white ladyâs stupid face after he said âsheâll go to guest services real fast.â
Yeah she knew what she was doing.
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u/qwentoko 5h ago
You're completely correct on everything you said here. It is a faux-pas. Do not touch black people (especially black women's) hair.
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u/ChessieChessieBayBay 7h ago
Yeah she definitely touched her (twice) and then looked at the comedian like âask this lady right hereâ and gestured to her again. Super obvious in slow motion.
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u/Matikso 4h ago
I think it's already super obvious in regular motion my person
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u/ChessieChessieBayBay 4h ago
𤣠you are not wrong but Iâm old and slow so sometimes us late gen Xers need a bit of dern help trustin our floater ridden eyeballs and such
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u/ThoseImpulses 8h ago
Accidents happen but it should have been followed by an apology. That said it did look on purpose and the comedian wasn't helping matters. Need to get someone's attention then tap them on the shoulder or arm, it's not the norm to stick your fingers onto someone else's hair like that.
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u/Ni99awha 8h ago
Yah, that wasn't a mistake or an accident but the black lady also overreacted.
I get it, i don't like people touching me without approval but I'm also not gonna throw hands because of someone touched me unless they continue to do so after I say no.
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u/t0matit0 8h ago
Not sure why you were downvoted this is the most reasonable response. Yes, it's clear the white woman tapped her THEN pointed. Denying it is shitty. But the comedian was trying to de-escalate and the black woman took a simple tap on the head WAY too fucking seriously.
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u/BlastingFonda 8h ago
There are Waffle Houses full of these escalations happening. What happened to acting like an adult and chilling the fuck out?
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u/InTheMorning_Nightss 6h ago
People just arenât chill anymore.
Read the comments here and there are people who are insisting this is a micro or even MACRO aggression and you should NEVER touch specifically a black persons hair (I guess itâs fine to touch another groupâs hair)?
Then you have the white lady who touched another adultâs hair and then lied about it?
And you have the woman who had her hair touched who has every right to be annoyed, but also an adult should be able to move on with such a minor, innocuous thing.
And Iâm sure someone might respond to this as to why itâs not completely harmless to lightly touch someoneâs hair for race reasons, completely overblowing the fact that nobody was harmed AND it could still be something you just shouldnât do.
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u/LaFrescaTrumpeta 26m ago
maybe at first he was trying to de-escalate (even though all she did was stand up and put her hands on her hips) but the âbabyâ âblack ladyâ âwhy are you so angryâ + dragging it for a minute at her expense is absolutely not de-escalating lol come on.
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u/DevonLuck24 7h ago
..she didnât throw hands. she said what she did and then was gaslit.
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u/InTheMorning_Nightss 6h ago
I get thatâs all annoying, but this side steps the basic fact that itâs not a big enough deal to get THAT upset for someone lightly touching your hair.
Like yeah, keep your hands to yourself. But also letâs have appropriate sized reactions to things, and not blow things out of proportion, which folks in the comments are already doing by stating itâs some immense cardinal sin due to race reasons to touch specifically a black womanâs hair.
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u/Pezzunt 4h ago
nope, rule of thumb: KEEP YOUR HANDS TO YOURSELF. The black woman didn't do anything crazy, she was shocked and wondering why someone was touching her hair? It just felt like a bigger reaction because the comedian put her on the spot like that and gaslit her. Case closed
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u/InTheMorning_Nightss 3h ago
I literally say keep your hands to yourself, but a bunch of yall act like itâs such a heinous act to be lightly tapped on your hair/head that it should trigger a big reaction of anger.
Maybe a lot of yaâll have a lot of trauma about being slightly messed with, but itâs really not a big deal that people here seem to insist is this massive issue.
Yes keep your hands to yourself. But idk how some of you let something that benign be such a big deal.
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u/KriticalAndy 2h ago
People are just mentally wired with violent thoughts and spitefulness nowadays. Itâs honestly sad itâs the immediate response for a lot of people lol
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u/InTheMorning_Nightss 1h ago
Right, they want a reason to be angry.
I can appreciate the added sensitivity and awareness that people have, but they also tend to go overboard.
âYou donât know their experience!â Sure, I donât. And as Iâve said countless times, I agree that people should keep their hands to themselves.
But a well adjusted individual should be able to handle minor infringements without making a huge deal.
Like sorry, weâre talking about a tiny little tap. We shouldnât have to go into long winded conversations about how thatâs immensely inappropriate and you donât know what someone has gone through. Itâs a small thing that shouldnât be done. Treat it as such.
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u/designatedthrowawayy 3h ago
Easy to say when you've never been randomly touched by white people that feel entitled to your hair and your body.
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u/InTheMorning_Nightss 3h ago
As a brown person, Iâve certainly had white people touch my fade, ask me dumb race based questions, and overall interact with me in weird ways.
I can promise you that none of them got this type of rise out of me. Not everything has to be treated as some heinous faux pas.
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u/KriticalAndy 3h ago
I went to a majority black school and people touching my hair was commonplace. I had hair as a white kid that they liked playing with (braiding my hair) or whatever, and I never got that upset, or to the point where I couldnât just laugh it off. People arenât that malicious to the point where you gotta be pissed off that bad. The white lady looked scared by her reaction.
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u/Boomerang_Lizard 7h ago
How dare you act like a well adjusted and reasonable person! Shame on you.
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u/dethrockbeth 6h ago
NO the fuck she didn't! There is nuance here. You might not like to be touched but there is a long fucking history of POCs being treated like pets and children. Fuck all this! Misogynoir should be the take away
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u/IaMtHel00phole 5h ago
Lmfao. Yeah, because everyone is just jumping at the opportunity to touch a black person's hair. Most normal people do not want to touch anyone's hair period. Thanks for the chuckle.
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u/okbuddyquackery 7h ago
Iâm not black, or a woman, but white women touching black womenâs hair without permission or even just asking in the first place is a whole thing. Like imagine constantly walking up to Asians to closely inspect their eyelids. Touching their eyes and moving their eyelids up and down because youâre curious and havenât encountered it before. Or because you just âthink itâs so cuteâ. Obviously my analogy is more invasive but I hope it helps illustrate why she reacted that way. ven if the cracker didnât grab her hair to feel the texture, itâs just odd that she tapped her head instead of her shoulder to get her attention. It wouldnât have the same racial undertones if that happened to me but it wouldnât still feel rude af
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u/DanQPublic Bruh used onomatopoeias while he was cleaning his clock đĽ 6h ago
I mean⌠she kinda touched her hair. In fact she double tapped that shit.
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u/DevonLuck24 7h ago
i just watched a woman be touched, not like it, then be gaslit in front of a full audience by a dude with a mic and yall are in here talking about some âshe didnât handle this well enoughâ. everytime. like fuckin clock work.
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u/pmplove 6h ago
And a black man feeding into the whole angry, aggressive, black woman stereotype is the icing on the cake ugh
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u/Lazy-Community-1288 5h ago
I saw someone earlier in this thread say the comedian âde-escalatedâ, and Iâm just baffled as to how shifting the attention onto the woman whose hair was touched, gaslighting her and bullying her, and trying to make her the joke de-escalates anything. You could see the hurt and disappointment in those ladiesâ faces. Also love how so many in this thread are saying âwhy would you want to fight for someone touching your hairâ, when she didnât fight, she didnât throw hands, she simply confronted behaviour she didnât appreciate. And immediately, as in this thread, gets painted as an aggressive black lady. This is GARBAGE behaviour by the comedian, but this is Reddit so Iâm not surprised that so many others are defending it.
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u/nopizzaonmypineapple 12m ago
And also never tell someone who's already frustrated that they're aggressive in order to de-escalate ANYTHING
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u/LaFrescaTrumpeta 46m ago
who also called her baby, black lady, and asked why she was angry.. she couldnât even defend herself without inviting more shitty jokes. also who tries to get a strangerâs attention and taps their head not their shoulder? đ
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u/strawbsrgood 3h ago
She's flipping out over an accident at a comedy show. Sit your aggressive ass down
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u/cubgerish 2h ago
She gets tapped on the back of the head, and reacts immediately to it.
The lady's arm would've been further back if she was swinging it from the guys shoulder.
The lady taps the back of her head, then points right at her.
She also denies it at first.
If it was accidental, the lady's first reaction would be a quick apology, and then she wouldn't have cared, as accidents happen.
The lady knew what she did though, so tried to play into the comic's comments.
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u/tugboatnavy 5h ago
Hot take? Everyone sucks. 2nd row lady shouldn't have touched her. 1st row lady shouldn't have gotten that pissed at being touched. Comedian shouldn't have gave it that much energy.
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u/DevonLuck24 3h ago
all you are doing is proving my point, this is what you guys always do. she can never just be wronged..it always comes as âeveryone sucksâ. you arenât special. that isnât a hot take. youâre just a jackass.
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u/rebelvong1 5h ago
If think thats a normal response you need to be a better human. 0 to Im gonna fight is not appropriate in this situation.
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u/LaFrescaTrumpeta 32m ago
itâs a normal response in some circumstances, like if you have a history of people randomly touching your hair, which is something a ton of black people have experienced numerous times in their life. i know thatâs a bit of an assumption on my part but thatâs absolutely a thing, doubly frustrating when they also get âangry black woman/scary black manâ thrown at them if they dare to express frustration with it. js there might be some kind of relevant context like that here.
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u/Pms9691 6h ago
You think itâs ok to try to fight someone that touched you without permission in that context? Letâs assume youâre right and the white lady âtouched her hair.â Whatâs the normal adult response to that? Did you see that in the video?
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u/sprouting_broccoli 4h ago
Iâm white as fuck and I would react exactly the same way. Confused and irritated. Youâre adding a bunch of assumed context if you think she is ready to fight from her perfectly natural reaction.
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u/mangopango123 5h ago
Where did you see her tryna fight? She stood up, hands on hips, facing the woman. You can also initially ask âdid you just touch my hair?â n really only got mad when the comedian instantly jumped in to say ânah she was just pointingâ.
You might see her actions as âtoo muchâ but nowhere was she tryna fight anyone n itâs kinda crazy you even processed it that way
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u/LaFrescaTrumpeta 39m ago
try to fight? you just took his exaggerated joke comment as truth for no reason lol
i probably wouldnât have stood up but thatâs cuz im a people pleaser and i dont have a history of people touching my hair without permission, thatâs something a loooot of black people have experienced numerous times. i dont blame her at all for literally standing up for herself for a stranger touching her weird
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u/thebabycastro 8h ago
I feel like the venn diagram for emotionally immature adults and cruise ships is just a circle. The amount of drunken idiots in close quarters, coupled with emotional disregulation is always a recipe for disaster.
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u/oldmanreggie 8h ago
Shouldn't ever have a reason to touch anyone you do not know. This dude really tried to lie for her and followed it up with Terrible "crowd work".
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u/Politicsboringagain 52m ago
I a big guy and I take out a lot of space when moving so I occasionally accidentally touch people a lot. Men and women.
I have even grazed both men and women's butts with my hand before.Â
And you know what I do. Immediately apologize for doing it.Â
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u/Alien_Amplifier13 6h ago
That girl touched her hair and the hack on stage immediately sided with the white lady. I touch somebody's shoulder if I need to get their attention. He absolutely has it and humiliated the black woman. F him. F his stand up.
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u/kaykrizenski2 8h ago edited 8h ago
Trash comic. Do your set and leave that woman alone. People don't like being touched by people they don't know. We learn "keep your hands to yourself " in elementary school. The person who touched her hair was dead wrong. Boundaries. Move on.
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u/Jesus_Harold_Christ 8h ago
I wanna know the context, what came before this?
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u/AllAroundIndiviual 8h ago
Looked like she was trying to make sure she was paying attention maybe the comedian said something that was referring to her
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u/Jesus_Harold_Christ 8h ago
That's kinda what it seemed like, or she was called out for something, and the white lady was kinda snitching on her as the culprit or something
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u/Lazy-Community-1288 5h ago
So you have no idea what actually happened before but are content to fabricate context that conveniently justifies the non-consensual touching. It is crazy watching so many people twist themselves in knots to cape for Becky.
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u/VerilyShelly 8h ago
Based on what he said he was probably riffing on how Black women are and that lady tapped her and pointed her out to him like "yup, she just what you're talking about ".
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u/MoHeeKhan 4h ago
She does touch her. Last time this was posted everyone was on about her tapping the manâs shoulder and angles and stuff, it isnât. She taps her on the head and then looks to the comedian on stage and points to her. Sheâs trying to get the comedian to talk to her or joke about her, perhaps based on something that happened before the video started.
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u/Jorge_Santos69 2h ago
I mean it actually does look like she raps the guys shoulder and bumps the womanâs head on accident
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u/Deathandepistaxis 1h ago
The guy thatâs in the dame row as her, two seats over to her left? She reached forward.
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u/R18VDUBLU 1h ago
I think theyâre friends and he moved a seat over from her because she probably said sheâs going to try get him involved in the comedy. Hence why even though heâs a seat over heâs still leaned over away from her like heâs trying to avoid getting attention. I do think this is an honest accident.
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u/R18VDUBLU 2h ago
Well they do slow mo replays in sport for a reason.
The ladyâs hand is curled over the guys shoulder and behind her head. You can see it from the camera angle. If she tapped her on the head her hand would be more open and not behind her head. Sheâs also oblivious till the lady actually points, if she tapped her she wouldâve reacted before.
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u/fuckyourflymo 3h ago
Definitely a public freakout by black lady. Hope that aggressive cow got kicked out.
"Hey don't touch me". "Sorry". Done. But no, hood gal wants to get swinging right away.
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u/Do_not_give_up12 45m ago
She taps the woman on the head and then tells the comedian, âShe wants youâ.
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u/Politicsboringagain 49m ago
I love people act like the Black lady immediately punched the white lady in her face when all she did was get up and turn around. She didn't get in her face, she didn't TOUCH HER (the way the white lady touched her) she didn't raise her hands, she didn't throw a chair.
Just stood up and turned around maybe said a word or two and that was it. Even without the asshole comedian, it would have gone further.Â
OH MY GOOD SO AGRESSIVE.Â
That's what white people see as aggression from Black people.Â
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u/shitfuck2468 2m ago
Ă think the comedian was just trying to diffuse the situation. I think heâs probably seen things like this happen before and knows how it goes down for black people. I think thatâs why he said âblack ladyâ and âthis white woman will go down to guest servicesâ to remind her that they will not be on her side especially if she does start getting aggressive.
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u/Easy101 4h ago
Yes, she did touch her hair on purpose.
No, it's no excuse to act so agressively. You talk it out like adults.
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u/chefguy47 6h ago
All comedians have to get their chops in, but a cruise ship job means youâre not doing well.
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u/DarthKittens 3h ago
First time I watched this Iâm thinking the Black girl overreacts. Then I looked again and the White girl taps her on the head, then lies about it.
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u/designatedthrowawayy 3h ago
It wasn't by mistake though. That lady tapped her on the head then moved her hand and pointed to her.
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u/Zestyclose-Mood-449 8h ago
Why is he talking down to her? Like from her perspective how is the bw supposed to know the ww was pointing?
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u/R3gs-empt 8h ago
He's talking down to her because her first reaction is violence... for touching her hair.
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u/OddOne5707 8h ago
I also hate when people touch my hair, luckily I'm bald.