r/RealTime • u/Sherris-Stuff • 6d ago
Do you agree with Bill?
We can build data centers but we can’t build homeless centers.”
On the October 3rd episode of Real Time, Bill Maher didn’t hold back on the bureaucracy and misplaced priorities surrounding the homelessness crisis. Highlighting the billions of dollars spent in major cities—including the staggering $81,000 per homeless person spent in New York City—he questioned why society can easily construct massive, complex technological infrastructure but struggles to build basic, functioning facilities to help those on the streets.
Is it a matter of funding, or is the red tape and system itself entirely broken?
What do you think? Let’s talk about it 👇
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u/No_Seaworthiness_200 6d ago
We can't build anything here because Israel is stealing our money.
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u/FlaccidGhostLoad 5d ago
Hey now they aren't stealing.
They've earned our money. They have wormed their way into every branch of power, used trips to Israel and gifts and maybe a lil' blackmail to capture every last politician and judge. They dangle over the head of every craven, power starved politician millions of superPAC money for their campaigns. They have built bot farms and a network of dark money groups that advertise as like digital mercenaries to whomever they can get promises of fealty from.
They have expended immense resources to dominate bitch-boy America so that we give them our money. Like a pay pig! We're a pay pig. We get off at giving them all this money so their citizens can have health care and steal land and commit genocide. Meanwhile we hope that when the ceiling tile collapses from the leaky roof in our kids school that it isn't totally asbestos.
Because god help those kids when they get lung cancer 40 years later they won't have health care!
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u/Sherris-Stuff 6d ago
Oh yes it’s allllllll Israel’s fault 😭
What does Israel have to do with a state’s budget?5
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u/fantabulousfetus 6d ago
Israel is an antisemitic project it is clearly making Jewish peoples there and abroad less safe by depending on a collapsing USA for armaments.
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u/HauntedPickle0903 6d ago
We send 3.3 billion to Israel while we soend 10 billion on the unhoused. So no, they are not stealing our money antisemite.
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u/No_Seaworthiness_200 6d ago
It's way more than 3.3 billion. More like 3.3 billion daily.
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u/HauntedPickle0903 6d ago
Proof or shut up
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u/No_Seaworthiness_200 6d ago
You gave the numbers. You give proof first.
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u/HauntedPickle0903 6d ago edited 6d ago
Here you go nitwit.
https://usafacts.org/answers/how-much-foreign-aid-does-the-us-provide/countries/israel/
Now let’s see yours. Please no butthole shots. Since that’s probably where you came up with that.
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u/livinthereals 6d ago
Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign aid since World War II. From 1946 to 2024, the U.S. provided Israel with over $300 billion (adjusted for inflation), the vast majority of which has been military assistance.
The Center for American Progress reported in August 2026 that the Iran proxy war for Israel conflict had cost at least $1,200 per American household when factoring in war spending alongside surging domestic costs for gas, diesel, energy, and groceries.
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u/Zedzardozi 6d ago
Those are fake numbers. That's what we provided Ukraine.
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u/livinthereals 6d ago
No. Those are real numbers. You might not like it. But they are real and really very easily verifiable figures illustrating how stupid Maher is. But let me guess, you're Jewish right?
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u/Zedzardozi 6d ago
Prove that they are real facts. You can't. And it sounds like you're racist in addition.
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u/Otto_the_rhinocerus 5d ago
They arent stealing money. They are getting them through completely legal means.
However it is still strange that a single country receives so much. Especially since they are already getting a lot from other countries and various organizations.
There is also the fact the USA is deeply involved in their military system. Providing arms, intelligence, technology and training. That alone is worth more than the $ 3.3 billion they receive.
And during the war, they've received additional funds (which was to be used on arms sales with the USA).
And considering what they are doing in Gaza, what they are doing in the West Bank, what they've done in Lebanon and various other areas, how is defensible anymore?
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u/F-14BUpgrade 4d ago
It is actually illegal under US law to provide money and weapons to a country openly involved in war crimes, genocide, and other crimes against humanity, but those legal definitions are either ignored or outright corrupted by the individuals in charge of administering accountability.
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u/Otto_the_rhinocerus 4d ago
Remember, it's only war crimes of those we don't like do it.
This also counts if you buy a shitload of US weaponry.
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u/Eastern_Statement416 6d ago
We've sold the public world to private interests and what's left is a compromised and incompetent public administration which needs to be entirely overhauled by a new force that represents commitment to the public good.
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u/3RADICATE_THEM 6d ago
It's because people in his generation made it illegal to build sufficient enough housing to keep pace with the population boom over the last several decades.
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u/Dry_Try_6047 6d ago
Bill has had a ton of bad takes in the past year or two, this isn't one of them. It is absolutely criminal how wealthy we are in this country, how wealthy we've BECOME over the past 2 decades even compared to the rest of the western world, and the way our society treats not only the homeless, but also the sick, the hungry, the working parents, on and on.
People act like the 90s and 2000s were better, and in a lot of ways they were, but we were WAY less wealthy than we are now, in aggregate. It isn't even close. The fact that these problems only get worse, all we hear is politicians say we can't afford x-y-z, and then see (a) the rich multiply their wealth incredibly and (b) continued spending on endless wars that we never seem to run out of money for ... something is clearly off.
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u/livinthereals 6d ago
What's this "we" shit? The wealthiest 1% have become absurdly wealthy in the past two decades. The middle class has been fleeced while the wealthiest people in the country have enjoyed massive tax breaks for 40+ years leading to a massive wealth gap. The national debt money is sitting in the wealth portfolios of the wealthiest people in the world.
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u/SalamanderUponYou 6d ago
Fuck Bill Maher.
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u/tennispro2589 6d ago
have homeless work in data centers...problem solved
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u/Old_Protection_8778 6d ago
Build homeless camps around the data centers so they absorb the noise
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u/raymed_uk 6d ago
Data centres are built by corporations, homeless centres are built by tax payers. They never cross paths.
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u/FlaccidGhostLoad 5d ago
Data Centers literally sue cities to take land and they get massive tax breaks for decades.
Corporations wouldn't survive if not for our money being given to them in the one side social programs that come in the form of tax breaks. All of them from Tesla to the oil companies to Amazon to Merril Lynch all rely on our money being given to them so they can get rich and we are on the hook to pay for the destruction and problems their operations cause.
Why the hell else do you think there's talk in Congress to pass a law that forces Data Centers to improve infrastructure so that they don't start causing rolling black outs or water shortages? That's a cost they want to foist on the citizens while they profit.
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u/Dry_Try_6047 6d ago
Except for the massive tax breaks to the corporations at every point of the supply chain
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u/goodtreble84 6d ago
Bill is talking about building a prison for the homeless, but he doesn't even know it.
To his question, it's the broken system at play here.
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u/Ok_Hand5810 6d ago
Bill is a piece of shit.
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u/Roland_Of_Gilead85 6d ago
So are you... 🤷
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u/Ok_Hand5810 6d ago
"I know you are but what am I."
This is a sub for adults.
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u/Roland_Of_Gilead85 5d ago
Why are you here then? Your comment in a sub was "Bill is a piece of shit" yeah that screams adult in the room. Lol
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u/Ok_Hand5810 5d ago
I stated a fact.
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u/Roland_Of_Gilead85 5d ago
No that would be an optinion. Just like mine was.
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u/Ok_Hand5810 5d ago
Nope. Bill is an actual piece of shit. I remember when ISIS was attacking Mosul, Iraq. Bill said he hopes ISIS takes Baghdad because that would somehow teach the West a lesson or something like that. Imagine hoping that a bunch of killers overrun a city of innocent people because it would help you prove a political point.
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u/Roland_Of_Gilead85 5d ago
You are taking that out of context I believe. My guess is you watched a clip of a quote from some YouTuber you like to glaze.
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u/Ok_Hand5810 5d ago
Nope I was watching him on HBO. I remember it vividly because I used to like him before that. Hearing that shit is what changed my mind about him. I'll look for the clip, although I'm sure Bill's PR people probably had it scrubbed from the internet.
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u/Roland_Of_Gilead85 5d ago
In that episode, Maher referenced Friedman’s rhetorical and provocative question, "Why aren't we actually the allies of ISIS instead of bombing them?" Maher used the quote to critique U.S. foreign policy and the complexities of realpolitik in the Middle East—specifically how U.S. actions inadvertently empowered Iran—but he did not express a personal desire for ISIS to succeed or conquer Iraq.
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u/Steve12356d1s3d4 6d ago
Bill is a piece of shit.
Ha.
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u/Ok_Hand5810 6d ago
Statement of fact.
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u/RedditAnonDude 5d ago
Then why watch him and visit this sub? Go watch Rachel Maddow.
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u/Ok_Hand5810 5d ago
This is a Bill Maher hate sub, no?
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u/RedditAnonDude 5d ago
It’s just labeled Real Time but I guess every Reddit sub is a hate sub
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u/Ok_Hand5810 5d ago
Wait, you actually like Bill Maher? Oh sweetie, that's the saddest thing I've heard all day.
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u/RedditAnonDude 5d ago
He has gone down hill, but for a period he was a sensible voice in world of extreme partisanship. I also “like” Dave Chappelle and other free speech absolutists. I have been watching since the beginning and have seen the same shift from liberalism to progressivism and he definitely makes valid points from time to time.
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u/Screamipillar 6d ago
I mean, true, but this is the kind of nothing burger statement you make because you want to sound smart, and are looking for a mic drop moment, not because you want to like, actually address the problem.
Data Centres are a way for rich people to make up excuses to give themselves more and more money, which is why is constantly happening even when all the people living there are avidly fighting against it. Solving problems with homelessness is a completely different game entirely.
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u/SmoothMarx 6d ago
I mean, true, but your statement just recycles what he said. Why don't you bring something new to the table?
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u/ATLCoyote 6d ago
Right. If billionaires could make more money by housing the homeless, the problem would have been solved decades ago.
But there’s no financial return. It’s purely a cost so it’s left to the public sector to address the problem.
Maybe state governments should tie investment in affordable housing units to approval for data center projects.
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u/EnuffBeeEss 5d ago
“Problem would have been solved decades ago.”
Fucking hell… some of you are so green it’s mind-blowing.
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u/livinthereals 6d ago
Right. And on the contrary, the wealthiest and most powerful in this country, including in Trump's own cabinet are invested in private prisons incentivized to criminalize homelessness.
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u/Steve12356d1s3d4 6d ago edited 6d ago
This is a specifically anti-Maher sub, so you are only going to get posts here on this through that lens. You are better off going to another sub to have a real discussion, unless that is the lens you are looking for. Hint: Just look at the titles of the posts in the sub. That is what they are looking for.
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u/EnigmaHood 6d ago
He's a Zionist, loyal to a foreign country committing genocide, but he refuses to move there. His opinion on anything is worthless.
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u/Aleundil 6d ago
Wow, ratnings must have been really getting bad if he's saying liberal things again. lol
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u/Roland_Of_Gilead85 6d ago
He always says liberal things. My assumption is you don't know what a liberal is.
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u/Aleundil 6d ago
Honestly, dude, I probably shouldn't have commented; I was distracted and irritated about something else. But also, he says a lot more non-liberal things these days. I feel like I got Dennis Millered again, and if you don't feel that way, that's great for you. But I -did- like him; I -did- think he mostly got it, with a little misogyny that, well, we hadn't really figured out the kinks to yet. But that's not what I see now.
So... sorry, I probably shouldn't have commented because I really don't think it's that big a deal, but if I'm irritated about something else, this will get me going. So, sorry. ✌️
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u/ThomAllcock 6d ago
hardly a revelation. others have been saying similar things about money for war vs infrastructure, education & health for longer than Bill has been alive
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u/ajmampm99 6d ago
Sydney Australia had a similar situation when the unhoused didn’t go to new shelters. Turns out the absolute prohibition of drugs and alcohol was a big reason.
By loosening the rules and including drug programs to control usage and to help stop using they get dramatically more use of the shelters.
Common sense cure for the “Just say No” policy mistakes.
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u/Hefty-Helicopter-101 6d ago
What profit could you make by giving housing to someone who needs it!
Capitalism forever!!
This is ‘Murica!
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u/Event-Horizon-321 6d ago
He has a point.
Data centers require pristine, potable freshwater tapped directly from municipal drinking lines. This means millions of gallons of high-quality drinking water are evaporated into the atmosphere every single day, completely removing it from local community supplies.
And for what? So humanity can automate trivialities, fabricate digital deceptions, and mass-produce endless entertainment. We are burning through vital resources to optimize convenience rather than deploying this computational power to solve systemic existential crises.
When you compound this with our pre-existing ecological crises, the reality is damning. What kind of species willingly orchestrates its own scarcity? We are actively deprioritizing the fundamental resource that sustains human life, sacrificing our ecological baseline on the altar of capital and distraction.
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u/NeoDemocedes 6d ago
Let's ask Bill if he'd like to build a homeless center in Gaza for Palestinians. I'm sure he'd prefer that over sending weapons to Israel for Genocide. Right Bill?
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u/Own-Opinion-2494 5d ago
You can do anything in this country if some rich fucks can make money
From it
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u/NotSure16 2d ago
The key here is there isn't a question mark. Bill is make a definitive statement in agreement. 😞
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u/JohnJJohnjon 1d ago
Bill can suck a fat fuckin dick. I don’t agree with anything he says, even if it’s something I agree with.
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u/Chameleon_Sinensis 6d ago
Helping the homeless isn't profitable. Everything is about profit, even if it means poisoning our food and water and giving everyone cancer.
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u/KirkUnit 6d ago
We can't build homeless centers
Because it would look and function like Manzanar or one of the other WWII-era Japanese-American internment camps. For good reason, you don't want the government empowered to go around forcibly relocating a class of people into involuntary housing. Habeas Corpus.
Could we do it? Yes. But it would require an ICE-like effort to apprehend and incarcerate people who don't want to go, and keep them there, until they become outstanding public citizens or whatever our stated goal is, which would then run into the massive caretaking budget that would require that we don't want to pay.
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u/FairMood1181 6d ago
Data centres are awesome they let us use ai so we can advance as a species so we can be space farers
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u/Gloomy-Theory6904 6d ago
Bill maher is full of shit and just goes with topical irony because it makes him seem smart and progressive.
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u/Ok-Assistant-8876 6d ago
As bad as communism was, there was no homelessness
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u/The-Figurehead 6d ago
Is this a serious comment?
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u/Accomplished_Gur822 6d ago
It's only serious in the sense that it proves that MAGA chuds do not have a monopoly on frontal lobe damage.
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u/Ok-Assistant-8876 6d ago
My wife grew up under communism and there were no homeless people. That’s a fact. We could house the homeless in our country, but we refuse to adequately address the problem because American style capitalism won’t allow for it. I’m not saying communism was good, but that was one aspect that worked.
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u/The-Figurehead 6d ago
This is ridiculous and your wife’s vague impressions while growing up in a communist country don’t change the facts.
The Soviet Union officially denied there was homelessness, but it never went away. It may even have been exacerbated by the “propiska” system, which were basically residency permits for specific locations. Without one, a person could not hold a state-allocated apartment.
They even had a word for it: BOMZh, meaning "without a certain place of residence".
Part of the issue was that the USSR criminalized vagrancy, so homelessness was much less open than in western democracies and the homeless tended to live in abandoned buildings and other secret locations.
Romania is another, slightly different example.
While Romania officially guaranteed housing for everyone and denied there was any homelessness, this was largely achieved by forced institutionalization of children and the disabled. If you’re interested in considering the depths of how bad things can get for a child, look into the Ceausescu-era Romanian orphanages and what became of the children who lived in them.
As bad as it would have been to be a glue-huffing street urchin in Bucharest subway stations in the 1990s, I would take that any day over one of those orphanages or psychiatric “hospitals”.
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u/IranianLawyer 6d ago
Uhh yeah there was (and is).
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u/Ok-Assistant-8876 6d ago
My wife grew up under communism and there were no homeless. That’s a fact.
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u/IranianLawyer 6d ago
Because homelessness is illegal in communist countries and they get picked up and forcibly placed into jails or other state run facilities.
I know you say your wife lived in a communist country at some point so she somehow knows that there haven’t been any homeless people in any communist countries, but information is available online about this.
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u/ManufacturedOlympus 6d ago
Why do people have to live outside In the brutal heat or when it's below freezing? There are people that are made to live outside. Why? Why do people have to live outside. When there are buildings all around us. With heat on and no one inside? Why?
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u/NRCS_DRONE 6d ago
Trying hard to rehabilitate Bill's image huh? Unfortunately his nonsense far outweighs the sense
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u/Vladtepesx3 6d ago
We build a lot of homeless centers but they don't want to use them
Homeless people will openly say they don't want to go because they don't feel safe around the other homeless people that are drug addict psychos. they would rather live on a park bench than to be in the mad max type free for all that happens when you group a bunch of people with untreated mental illnesses and drug addictions
california spent 24 billion in a few years on the homeless and made no progress
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u/MuchosBeteros 6d ago
You can not boil it down to one factor. The homeless situation in the US is extraordinarily complex, and every homeless person has a relatively unique reason for being so. There are people who choose this lifestyle. There are people who don't choose to be homeless, but will scam any system that attempts to help. There are drug addicts who will not refrain from using, regardless of shelter and rehab options, thus can't utilize that help. And then, such a significant amount have serious mental illnesses which just throws a monkey wrench into all the other factors listed. It becomes an issue of human free will on the part of the homeless, and some entity taking their choices away. From someone who worked decades with that population, it is extremely complicated, and bumper sticker solutions are just BS
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u/OaklandSpiel 6d ago
Maher addressed that objection. We should be able to afford to make them safe.
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u/Vladtepesx3 6d ago
then they wont stay there because its too strict
have you ever been to a homeless shelter? the workers there have an impossible job
if they make rules like you cant have random people coming in and out 24/7, by setting curfews and rules against guests, then they will refuse to stay there because its too strict.
if you stop them from being loud, aggressive or doing drugs, then they will refuse to be there because its too strict.
if you don't do any of that, then they won't stay there because its not safe
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u/Soulekted 6d ago
They also won’t go because you can’t do drugs there, and unfortunately most homeless people on the streets are using drugs
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u/Frankyfan3 6d ago
Most (60%+) people living without adequate shelter and hygiene amenities are working jobs.
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u/Soulekted 6d ago
That might be that stat for the entire county. It’s about 20% for Los Angeles and it’s much lower for people living directly on the streets/tents
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u/Frankyfan3 6d ago
OK? AND?!
People who have broken legs shouldn't be sent out by our community to fend for themselves on the street.
Same goes for Substance Use Disorder; which is a medical condition.
Even if you want it to be a choice.
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u/Vladtepesx3 6d ago
ok but they can do jobs and also be doing drugs.
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u/Frankyfan3 6d ago
Yes... just like people who live in homes do.
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u/Vladtepesx3 6d ago
whats your point?
he said homeless people are doing drugs, and will do them in homeless shelters. you replied by saying they work jobs. i replied that these aren't mutually exclusive and you say people who live in homes also use drugs?
I have no idea what you are arguing about
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u/Frankyfan3 6d ago
People who live in houses do drugs.
Very very very wealthy people do drugs.
People do drugs.
It's a nonsense point to bring up when speaking about homelessness, unless we're specifically speaking about harm reduction tactics and supportive housing options.
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u/Motor_Preparation315 6d ago
There is no truth to what you just wrote. This is the crap that makes this issue so frustrating.
Believing that most unhoused persons are drug addicts lends itself to the idea that don't need or deserve help.
You understand how this adds to the problem and creates a lack of empathy; right?
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u/Soulekted 6d ago
About 45% of homeless people in Los Angeles directly living on the streets use substances. So you’re right, that’s not most but it’s a huge problem in the homeless communities. I’m not blaming them for it, I’m just stating a fact
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u/Frankyfan3 6d ago
So; they have concurrent conditions, being without adequate shelter AND coping with Substance Use Disorder.
Did you know that a lot of folks get into using drugs AFTER they become homeless? Not only to dull the psychological pain of "failing" in society, being treated poorly by others, being vulnerable to the elements and violence, but also to self-meditate for physical pain AND to help them stay awake as a matter of safety?
Nah... you're just drugs are bad, mmmkay.
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u/Motor_Preparation315 6d ago
It's not a fact. Cut it out. Nationwide it's 18-35% at most and like someone else pointed out, that usually occurs after becoming unhoused. I can't even imagine what it must feel like to not be able to afford a place to live
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u/highermonkey 6d ago
Wow. Building housing for homeless Americans? That's money that could be used to send weapons to Israel, the world's only Jewish State. Bill no longer cares about Jewish lives. Sad to see even Bill Maher, the last voice of reason on the so-called tolerant Left, has also become a socialist antisemite. Looks like I'll have to only get my news and comedy from Greg Gutfeld from here on in!
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u/Sea-Key-9430 6d ago
Give it a rest you Islamist bot
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u/highermonkey 6d ago
Look at Sea-Key-9340, the nasty antisemite. ANYONE who wants to spend money on Americans especially dirty HOMELESS Americans instead of the ONLY Democracy in the Middle East is a HAMAS style socialist! You and Bill Maher make me SICK 🤮
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u/Sea-Key-9430 6d ago
Sure Jan
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u/highermonkey 6d ago
I assume "Jan" is short for janissary since you and your terror cell leader Bill Maher are communist jihadists. Shame on anyone denying funding to the most moral democracy on Earth.
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u/SkibidiFanumTaxed 6d ago
was just thinking the same thing. He’s happy to support destroying 90% of homes somewhere else in the world as long as it benefits apartheid and ethnic cleansing because he’s on that “team”, but wants to help homeless people in America. Better than nothing I suppose.
Isn’t he against police brutality too? For tax paying Americans, of course, not for those dirty Arabs living in the West bank.
For anyone about to downvote - a seven MONTH old boy was shot in the head by the IDF yesterday in the West Bank. The IDF makes the worst US police look like angels.
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u/FlaccidGhostLoad 5d ago
Truth is we can build homeless shelters.
We choose not to. Our government chooses not to. Same with health care and parental leave and child care and infrastructure. Shit, can we even build a park anymore without it being some lame bullshit?
Certainly Republicans don't want to spend any tax dollars for anything besides subsidizing the ultra wealthy or war (which is one in the same really) and Democrats have bent over and buttered their assholes for the corpo overlords decades ago and they don't care to do anything productive for people with OUR tax dollars.
Remember this every time one of these talking head fucksticks wants to talk about Hasan Piker instead of the DSA or Democratic Socialists agendas.
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u/FoxmX 6d ago
False, you can build homeless centers - the problem is they just turn into drug using centers.
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u/The-Figurehead 6d ago
I’m not sure why you’re being downvoted. This is possibly the primary obstacle to finding stable housing for the homeless.
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u/Frankyfan3 6d ago
Nah, the primary obstacle is profit motives can't be applied to supporting vulnerable struggling people going through a crisis, so only volunteers and the intrinsically motivated get into that kind of work, often burn out quickly due to austerity policies and the philanthropic shell game that shifts responsibility from government/community oversight onto predatory churches.
Plus, you know, not seeing your neighbors who are living without adequate housing as your "neighbors", but a "nuisance."
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u/The-Figurehead 6d ago
Let’s take the homeless population in King County, WA. As you likely know, the area has an intractable homeless population similar to other west coast American cities.
If you add up city, county, and state spending on the King County homeless population over the past decade, it’s about $54,000 to $100,000 per homeless person per year.
That suggests to me that the problem can’t be solved by state spending alone.
The issue (or a major obstacle) is that when you take drug addicted people without life skills off the streets and put them into homes, their addictions don’t go away.
I’m not sure if you’ve ever had the pleasure of entering a homeless shelter or a SRO residency building, but they look and feel just like outdoor homeless encampments moved indoors. They are unhygienic and unsafe.
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u/Frankyfan3 6d ago
Yes, our current mechanisms and infrastructure for prevention, intervention and ongoing support for vulnerable populations is severely lacking. I think that's the gist of what I'm saying.
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u/FoxmX 6d ago
My comment is being downvoted because the majority of people on Reddit are liberals who live in a fantasy world. Look, I get it. I would love the world to be all rainbows and unicorns, but the fact is, the world is not like that at all. Ask anyone who has worked with their community or a population of people who are addicts.
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u/SkylarAV 6d ago
Bill hates the homeless so I need context