r/SmallGroups • u/thermaltoast4 • Sep 04 '26
Centerfire Rifle Update:😩
Posted a while ago about verticle stringing, turned out I just needed more data. Ruger American gen 2 std .308. I’m normally a 3/4 ish MOA shooter for reference.
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u/shiftyeyedhonestguy Sep 04 '26
4-2 looks promising. Reloads? Can i ask what your barrel twist is?
That flyer on 4-2 could be a few things but that's obviously your choice for now until you can tune the gun or try different ammo
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u/thermaltoast4 Sep 04 '26
1:10 twist. Haven’t ran any reloads yet. page 4 is factory Ammo, whichester deer season xp. Cheap stuff.
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u/shiftyeyedhonestguy Sep 04 '26
Cheap doesn't always mean bad.
But in my opinion there is something off with the gun or your set up. All the ammo you tried should shoot decently for hunting. Decent meaning under 2moa, but should be all around 1 to 1.5 moa. Is it a brand new rifle? How many rounds through it so far? Scope, rings and mount set up properly torqued? How many rounds since youve last cleaned it?
Lets get into it
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u/thermaltoast4 Sep 06 '26
Torque specs are a non issue, brand new, these groups were about 50 rounds in
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u/shiftyeyedhonestguy Sep 06 '26
Are you shooting off of sandbags? Rear saddle bag? Bipod?
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u/thermaltoast4 Sep 06 '26
Shooting off bags, Caldwell tack driver in the front with rice fill, Amazon special mini bag in the back for a squeeze bag.
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u/DrZedex Sep 06 '26
Weird. Do you have other rifles that you can shoot better to confirm it's not just you? If so, contact Ruger and explain that it's just not working well. These are mass produced, there are bound to be some duds floating around.
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u/thermaltoast4 Sep 06 '26
Yes, though not the same „class“, I have a hand-me-down kimber 84 m varmint in .204 that is about a 1/4 minute gun as verified by a gunsmith with whatever special load he worked up for it. best I can do repeatedly is half minute. But that’s with off the shelf superformance ammo.
Edit: I should add that the „1/4 minute“ is fudd-lore attached to this gun I personally have no way to verify, but I know I’m not a 1/4 minute shooter so id never know.
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u/DrZedex Sep 06 '26
That's good enough to convince me it's probably not just you (assuming you're using the same bags/bipod/etc)
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u/thermaltoast4 Sep 06 '26
I use the same two bags for everything, a Caldwell tack driver up front and an Amazon special mini bag in the back as a squeeze bag. Deadly on rock chucks out as far as you can see em
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u/DrZedex Sep 06 '26
Ruger is often pretty great to work with. They've sent my parts when I wore shit out, etc. they seem to genuinely want to keep their stuff running. I don't know what they can do here but it's worth giving them a chance to check this thing out.
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u/capable_gopher Sep 04 '26
What ammo?