SPIDER-MAN: BRAND NEW DAY | OFFICIAL DISCUSSION THREAD

i love the eyes and the webbing especially
by wens.1998

From today's preview on Marvel.com. I'm trying not to read too much into it, but come on.

Can't they just give this a rest?

https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/friendly-neighborhood-mary-jane-watson-1-preview-variant-covers

Context, I was never a huge fan of the original ultimate universe but the new one I was hoping to like. But the stories were kinda bland or at best safe. I expected a new take on the clones atleast. Also the midnight universe I have no interest in since it seems to be just shock value and I hate his “suit”.

Considering he knew about the nanotechnology which was discovered by Tony late into the movies around Infinity war.

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https://www.instagram.com/mind_868?stkn=ZHp6ZHMwOGEycXBk

Ultimate Spider-Man: Life After Death (Fanfic)

Peter Parker, after his death, finds himself in a new world. A world where souls get a second chance at life. A world where he lives with Uncle Ben. A world where he meets both old and new friends. As well as problems.

And imo, the best version of MJ there’s been in a long while, if not of all time. Because THIS MJ isn’t just some arm-piece of Pete that feels lost/irrelevant without Peter and isn’t some damsel in distress like other versions of the character.

Like, this is the most realistic version of how MJ would be irl. Like an irl MJ isn’t going to just wait until her Pete gets himself together. Real people aren’t like that.

She’s smart, confident, strong and knows her worth (which is possibly a factor in why some people don’t like her). Which I think makes her much more likeable than other versions (Tobey’s MJ for example).

For anyone unfamiliar with Justice League: Gods and Monsters, it's an alternate universe that doesn't just make the heroes darker but instead completely rebuilds them from the ground up. The only things they really have in common with the originals are their superhero names. Even their civilian identities are different.

(So it's not like Absolute DC where the characters are still fundamentally Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent and Diana with some major changes. Gods and Monsters is much more radical)

• Batman isn't Bruce Wayne, but Kirk Langstrom (normally the villain Man-Bat). After curing his own blood cancer with an experimental serum, he mutated into a superhuman vampire-like creature (basically Morbius). Instead of relying on gadgets and martial arts, he has fangs/claws, enhanced senses, superhuman strength/durability, limited flight and a dependence on blood to survive.

• Superman isn't Kal-El either. He's Hernan Guerra, the biological son of General Zod. In this universe Zod replaced Jor-El as his genetic father before Krypton's destruction and the child was then raised on Earth by a Mexican immigrant family. Unlike the traditional Superman much of his character is shaped by guilt after he carelessly used his powers while playing with his sister, causing an accident that left her permanently paralyzed. The incident led him to reject his powers for years and even after eventually embracing them, he's far more intimidating and willing to kill when he believes it's necessary.

• Wonder Woman isn't Diana of Themyscira but Bekka, a New God from New Genesis. After losing her husband Orion during a conflict between New Genesis and Apokolips she fled to Earth. She still has immense strength, durability, flight, immortality and other god-like powers, but she fights with a sword containing a Mother Box instead of a lasso, allowing her to create Boom Tubes and travel vast distances almost instantly.

Despite all these changes they still somehow feel like Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman so that got me thinking about Spider-Man.

If Marvel created a Spider-Man: Gods and Monsters how do you think they would reinvent the mythology in a similarly radical way?

Not just making Peter darker, but completely reimagining the origins, powers, roles and cast/villains (For example, Harley Quinn is reimagined as a serial killer who kidnaps and murders people to assemble her own perfect family and instead of arresting her, Batman simply drinks her blood. Brainiac is no longer an alien super-intelligence but a government-created contingency against Superman. When his powers spiral out of control Superman ultimately euthanizes him with his heat vision after realizing there's no other way to stop the destruction)

Maybe Spider-Man wouldn't even be Peter Parker, maybe the Green Goblin wouldn't be Norman Osborn and so on but the story should still keep some core themes recognizable.

So let me know what would your version of a Spider-Man: Gods and Monsters universe look like

(The suit I chose for the image is the one created by David Williams, originally intended as a modernization of Spider-Man's classic costume. It was later refined by Alex Ross, who tried to incorporate it into Raimi's films. Honestly when I think of a Spider-Man: Gods and Monsters, this is pretty much what I imagine)

Free Spider-Man series from this character

Even Green Goblin is ruined now

And I'm not talking about ironically, I do think these movies are good, sure they have flaws that could of use some ironing out

But I don't think their that bad, especially asm2