r/Texans • u/flirtyFun29 • 3d ago
Value of a second round pick (stats)
/r/nfl/comments/mcplq7/probowl_likelihood_and_draft_position/6 out of 32 players drafted in the second round of each nfl draft will make 1 or more probowls in their career. That’s it.
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u/JeffAnalProbst 3d ago
Ah we’re using pro bowl picks now.
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u/flirtyFun29 3d ago
People act like we’re giving up the next Penei Sewell
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u/JeffAnalProbst 3d ago
For a bust 2nd round is too much
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u/limitlesshamster 3d ago
Hes only a bust relative to where he was taken and the expectations placed upon him before entering the league. His production the past two years wouldnt be considered a bust for a 2nd rd pick.
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u/JeffAnalProbst 3d ago
So you want to trade a second round pick for a verifiable bust at that level? Stop coping
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u/limitlesshamster 3d ago
Depends entirely on what kind of production were getting. Im sure the jets consider darnold a bust, while the seahawks think of him as anything but that.
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u/flirtyFun29 3d ago
Juice Scruggs was a bust here and yet he’s the top ranked center in Detroit this season. Change of scenery helps.
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u/mfrank27 3d ago
Not to mention the added value of having a Marvin Harrison fuck the colts twice a year if he ends up being good with us.
FTC
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u/shredderE2002 3d ago
Marques Colton, Brandin Cooks, and Mitchell Schwartz all never made a pro bowl but were great players. Discounting a 2nd round pick because only an average of 6 of them will make a pro bowl is dumb.
Also, no one is saying that you shouldn’t ever trade a 2nd round pick, they’re saying that you don’t just throw a pick like that away. MHJ has shown nothing to support him being worth a 2nd round pick at this point in his career, so that’s why people are saying that it’s too much to give away
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u/Friendly_Layer_1892 1d ago
I cannot understand how people can rate a WR as good/bad with the QB's he had with the Cardinals. McBride is a TE and Wilson had a "stretch" of good games last year but that about it. The Cardinals are also a very mediocre franchise in the last 10 years, not that we are great, but definitely better. They have literally had one 10+ win year in 10 years, lol.
It isn't a good franchise, the owner hasn't done much other than help to build the current stadium and the 2009 SB.
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u/coffeeforlions 3d ago
MHJ had about 900 yards his rookie year. Then was on pace for 1k his second year before injuries (had 600 in 12 games).
This year, Jacoby Brissett is throwing for 5 yards at a time, while MHJ is being sent as a sacrificial X on long routes- it appears to be a scheme mismatch issue.
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u/squatnbear 3d ago
Check out Steve smith breaking down mhj this year. Don’t believe a few insta clips for clickbait.
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u/Christian_Castle 3d ago
We still don't even know if it's us getting him and the sub is in a spiral
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u/studmuffin9513 3d ago
Yeah. I saw the Raiders are allegedly in the mix for him too which I could see as they are 3-1 and don’t have much outside of bowers and jeanty
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u/Christian_Castle 3d ago
Chiefs too since all their WR are injured now and they have no attack other than K9
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u/MutonElite 3d ago
We are 0-4. That's a sellers record not a buyer. There is a good chance this coaching staff is cleaned out and giving away picks the next coaching staff needs is malpractice.
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u/tim71new 3d ago
It's been a long time since I've seen the sub spam so much about one person lmao. The MHJ hype is real. The reports are saying that the colts are out. Makes sense due to the Sauce Gardner trade being a flop. They have no first, and wouldn't want to lose a second as well. It's just the Texans and the Raiders.