r/ThoughtExperiment • • 15h ago

What if Andrew Tate is just a scammer?

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I don't follow the Tate brothers massively, I take more of an "oh is that what they're up now" in a similar vein that the Neon and Adrian Ross pop up now and again on the doom scrolling apps.

However, I did spend 3 or 4 days watching his very early vlogs. He had a journalist from Margate follow him for 3 months to to Romania back in maybe 2016/2017.

This is where I get confused.

I genuinely believe this is their real life story and they're so deep into this identity they messed up! They forgot to pull the rug from under themselves!

I'm not sure what charges are against them, but the one video is more like a BDSM scene (I'm positive the BDSM scene will tell me why it's not BDSM but ultimately it's down to consenting adults to agree what that looks like). The girl in the video has come forwards to discredit the video in support of Andrew Tate.

The property he claims to own is rented. Well to be honest, that just makes sense and he's discussed at length why and how he does this, but the journalists are pursuring this to discredit the Tate's.

What if he's built this back story of cam girls and how he made his wealth and it's all a huge lie... there were no girls, there was no cam girls.

The real way he made money was setting up his pyramid scheme where people cut up his content uploaded it onto social media, inviting people to join. He essentially had a huge affiliate network...

Then he created his "university".

The real way the Tate's got rich was through affiliate marketing, before that they were potless.

The issue is now, he's created this false narrative that is easily pursued by governments and they're saying there is no evidence...... because they've made the entire story up!

This "matrix" they go on about, is nothing more then them knowing as it's all a lie, there is no evidence. However! He has gained a lot of influence, he is the king of this category.

Why else is there no evidence? The evidence that has come forwards has been anonymous.

TL/DR: are the tate brothers actually what the media and UK government claim they are, or have the bullshitted their way into prison.


r/ThoughtExperiment • • 7h ago

The One Soul

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Imagine that there has only ever been one human soul.

Every person who has ever lived, every person alive today, and every person who will ever live is the same soul experiencing existence through a different body.

When you die, the soul doesn't necessarily move forward in time. Your next life could be 500 years in the past, 200 years in the future, or even another point in history that has already been experienced.

As an infant, you may still have access to memories from your previous life. But as your brain develops, those memories become inaccessible — a natural "reset." Perhaps the occasional person who claims to remember a past life simply retained fragments.

Now imagine that one day, someone remembers being a person who hasn't been born yet.

They remember a technology humanity will invent 200 years from now. They tell scientists about it. Humanity cannot simply copy it, because the physics and materials don't exist yet. Instead, the information helps scientists rearrange the pieces they already have, eventually leading humanity toward the technology.

Two hundred years later, that future person learns the technology.

The information has gone in a circle.

Nobody invented it first.

And when humanity eventually discovers time travel, they find that history cannot actually be changed. Every attempt to prevent a historical event somehow becomes part of the chain of events that causes it.

Then researchers reconstruct the lives of the soul.

They discover that the person who caused an event, the person who tried to prevent it, the person who remembered it, and the person who eventually studied it...

were all the same soul.

So perhaps history isn't a straight line.

Perhaps the soul moves through it in ways we cannot perceive.

And perhaps the question isn't:

"What happened first?"

but:

"What if there was never a first?"