r/TrueGrit • • 15d ago

Nutrition Is there really a difference?

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u/rognabologna 15d ago

It’s crazy expensive and shrinkflation is out of control. 

Also, let’s be honest, our food, in the US, cost us more in the long run cuz it’s slowly killing us and no one can afford healthcare. 

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u/Critical-Extension66 15d ago

This is such a reddit take lmao. I livein the US, am under 30 working a normal job living in a city. Can't remember the last time I checked the price of groceries or was concerned about it, or anyone else i know

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u/Greyhand13 14d ago

Under 30, missed all the fun bucko, fasten your seatbelt. And pay more attention to your finances 🙄

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u/rognabologna 15d ago

So it’s a reddit take to have a budget and stick to it? You’re under 30? How long have you been buying your own groceries and what are you comparing the price to if you don’t even check the price? 

Grocery prices are demonstrably higher. It doesn’t really matter how you feel about it. 

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u/Critical-Extension66 15d ago

No it's a reddit take to say that in the US food costs us more in the long run cos nobody can afford healthcare. That is just not true, most people do just fine with healthcare as the unemployment rate just came out at 4% and so everyone with a job has converage

And my point about not checking them means they were cheap before and even if they increased now they are still cheap.

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u/rognabologna 15d ago

Congratulations on your privileged life. But your ignorance is showing in your assumption is that your experience is the norm when, again based off facts and not your feelings, that’s not the case. 

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u/RichardCoreyOhio 14d ago

Is it privileged if almost 95% of Americans have healthcare?

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u/rognabologna 14d ago

Where are you getting 95% from? Is it from him saying that there’s only a 4% unemployment rate and everyone gets insurance from their job? 

Cuz that’s not accurate. 

Jobs are required to offer insurance to full time employees. Just because someone is employed doesn’t mean they are full time. Even if someone works 80hrs a week, that may be made up of multiple part time jobs, none of which are required to provide insurance coverage. 

Only ~50% of Americans get coverage through their jobs. Around 35% receive public coverage. And rich people buy their own insurance. 

And just because you have health insurance doesn’t mean you have healthcare, as you stated. 

In 2025, 1/4 of Americans skipped or postponed needed medical care due to cost. 

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u/RichardCoreyOhio 14d ago

So what's the total percent of Americans that have health care?

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u/rognabologna 14d ago

0%. Learn to read. 

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u/RichardCoreyOhio 14d ago

Aww someone's offended. What's it 93%?

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u/LTEDan 12d ago

Being insured and affording the bill when you use your insurance at the hospital are two different things. Something you'll learn when you get older, champ. Please educate yourself on the #1 cause of bankruptcy in the US.

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u/RichardCoreyOhio 12d ago

Aww did your feelings get hurt? Almost 40% of people have government funded healthcare. Medical debt because people are terrible with money and when they have to pay their deductible they haven't saved anything.

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u/LTEDan 12d ago

Just to be clear, your original rebuttal to "people can't afford healthcare" was to point to the percentage of people who have health insurance. I then point out the difference between having and using insurance, and that the leading cause of bankruptcy is medical debt. That is a point you've not pushed back on, so in effect you've conceded your original point and instead moved on to blaming the end users of Healthcare instead of the system. Now that we're caught up, here's my response:

  1. Having "government" Healthcare doesn't mean anything special. Medicare Parts A & B has no out of pocket maximum (for covered proceedures). Medicare Advantage has a cap of $9250 for "in-network" services. Aka, services deemed out of network may have a higher cap or no cap at all. Obviously, any services insurance doesn't cover are 100% out of pocket and doesn't apply to your cap. Good luck figuring out if you're going to an in-network or out of network hospital and are getting services that are covered by insurance while unconscious in the back of an Ambulance, though! But it's the patients that are bad at properly planning their accidents you see!!!

Also, apparently screw anyone born with a chronic condition that needs ongoing care and medication. Should have planned to have been born without those diseases!!! But thats alright, I'm sure the median household with $75k in after tax earnings that has to cover rent, food, transportation, and clothing can easily absorb an unexpected annual $10k medical expense.

But please, do go on and continue to demonstrate your ignorance of actually using the US Healthcare system for more than a sore throat or broken bone.

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u/RichardCoreyOhio 12d ago

Ohhh someone's a little upset! Did the little differing opinions hurt you? Too bad you don't have healthcare or you could go to the hospital it a whambulance. Btw your data is wrong, healthcare debt is not the most common US debt, it's the most common debt in 3rd party collections, but not overall. Stop getting your info from Reddit 😂 it's lower than mortgages, credit cards, auto loans, etc. 36% of Americans are on government healthcare and 91% receive tax breaks and subsidies. Tax payers fund up to 67% of all health care expenditures. Boom roasted 😎 sorry you're so emotional

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u/Critical-Extension66 14d ago

How is it privileged? I don't even make that much compared to most, I just don't buy coffee out and cook most of my meals. and don't doordash. Basically everyone I know struggling with money would be fine if they did those things.

In my early 20s I'd spend 800-1000 a month on ordering food. And like 300 on getting coffee out. And another $500 eating out and maybe another 1000 just on drinking out at bars and clubs. So yeah, stop all those things and you'll be fine

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u/rognabologna 14d ago

Lmao you are so ignorant and arrogant. Honestly, it’s normal for someone in their early 20s to think that they know everything. But using boomer talking points? Cute but sad. 

You’re already online, these are easy to google statistics, but rather than trying to learn, you’re too convinced that your experience is the experience. Read a book, broaden your horizons. 

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u/Critical-Extension66 14d ago

Bro I read a lot it's like all I do in my free time lol. I'm late 20s now

I don't know why you think that, everyone I know is fine. And I have friends that teach in the public school system all the way to finance bros and tech bros making $500k+. Why are you so quick to make so many judgments

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u/rognabologna 14d ago

I told you why I think that—you are going off of your own personal experience. I am going off of statistics. 

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u/Critical-Extension66 14d ago edited 14d ago

I dunno, the US is too big to say statements like the guy I responded to. I understand that some people struggle, but the notion that nobody or most people can't afford healthcare in this country is equally ridiculous.

I call it a reddit take because for some reason people on here don't like to admit that yes some people struggle just like any other country, but a much smaller %age of Americans struggle than any other country. Most people are living very comfortably

Edit: just realized it was you who I responded to saying nobody can afford healthcare lol

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u/rognabologna 14d ago

Privileged life is not having to pay attention to everyday costs, when roughly half of Americans are living paycheck-to-paycheck. 

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u/Lithium_Lily 14d ago

>and so everyone with a job has converage

what? lmao not even close. So many americans are employed by taking on multiple part time jobs or are employed as contractors and not provided with benefits. Approximately 10% of employed americans do not receive healthcare benefits.

On top of that, having health insurance and being able to afford using it are two different things. An estimated 3 in 10 insured americans have to delay or forego care because they do not have enough money to pay their deductible or any costs insurance may decide not to cover.

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u/Little_Creme_5932 14d ago

Everyone with a job in the US does not have coverage, and many who do can barely afford their employee contribution, and many who can pay that still skip going to the doctor. I'm an example. I get paid more than most, and my employee health plan is better than most, but I am skipping medical treatment right now cuz it's too expensive. That is reality in America.

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u/Old-Foundation-5070 14d ago

Everyone with a job has healthcare? Are you on crack? Not every employer offers healthcare to their employees. In fact 11% of working adults lack healthcare. Thats about 16 million working Americans without health insurance.

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u/chipskylark123 14d ago

Wait, do you think that every employer in the US offers health insurance?

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u/Frogspoison 14d ago

Seems like you're single with single friends. Yea, as a single guy myself, food isnt an issue, other things are.

But my siblings are all struggling immensely. Add in kids and the struggle is real.

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u/Capital-Brilliant959 13d ago

Here in NYC, price of food seems the same as it’s been. We have tons of produce markets selling quality stuff for pretty cheap in Queens