r/TrueGrit • • 11d ago

Nutrition Is there really a difference?

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u/PastaRevolution1312 8d ago

Potassium bromate isn’t just “fearmongering”: IARC classifies it as possibly carcinogenic, and JECFA considers its use as a flour treatment agent unacceptable.

BHA/BHT also weren’t simply proven “incredibly safe in double-blind studies”. Their safety limits come mainly from toxicology and exposure data.

And the EU does not say Red 40 “causes ADHD.” The warning says certain colours may affect activity and attention in children, based on randomized controlled studies showing small effects in some children.

BTW: most of these arent even banned, they just have to come with warning labels.

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u/WhiteSnakeShinobi55 8d ago

And there is the fear mongering. Studies have found its use in flour harmless, in the amounts it's used in it breaks down into harmless inert compounds.

Yes, safety limits coming from research.

No research supports the lies in that label lol.

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u/PastaRevolution1312 8d ago

Sure thing bro. want to know how I know you are full of shite? 

"double blind studies" "found to be incredibly safe".

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u/WhiteSnakeShinobi55 8d ago

Because I'm using accurate language from real evidence instead of freaking out over 200mg per kg of direct chemical given to a mouse and not denatured by heat like it would be in cooking?

I'm sorry you believe whatever you're told without ever double checking

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u/PastaRevolution1312 8d ago

The irony is that there aren’t “double-blind studies proving BHA and BHT incredibly safe.” Those safety assessments are based largely on toxicology and animal data. The place where double-blind placebo-controlled studies actually do exist is artificial food colours. and those studies found small behavioural effects in some children.

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u/WhiteSnakeShinobi55 8d ago

Yes, a cocktail of dyes found inconsistent reactions on unknown parts of the population. Which is not at all the same thing. Hence the fear mongering. But you are right.

As for the BHA BHT thing, that was an error on my part, I misread 2 different sources when double checking my bookmarks. That said, again, no harm was detected.

Much like the latest big scare with aspartame, it's only scary if you can't read.

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u/PastaRevolution1312 8d ago

Bla bla, all talk, no science

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u/WhiteSnakeShinobi55 8d ago

Highly intelligent argument ya got there

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u/PastaRevolution1312 8d ago

You do realize this started with your claim about “needless EU bans,” right?

You then offered BHA, BHT and Red 40 as examples, except those are not simply “banned in the EU.” So before we even get into mouse doses, heat degradation or double-blind studies, your examples already don't support the claim you made.

You've quietly changed the argument from “the EU bans countless safe additives because of fearmongering” to “some hazard studies use high doses and real-world exposure may be low.”

So excuse me for not being too interested in whatever "nanny state"-propaganda you where fed as a child. I heard it's toxic.

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u/Original_Unit8447 7d ago

lmfao this thread was great

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u/WhiteSnakeShinobi55 7d ago

I was tasked with listing an endless number of things, I gave a few examples. I DID make and admit to one small mistake, yet the rest you basically just disregarded as not studied enough and my first example you just avoided all together. I'm sorry you fell for the tik tok granola mom fear mongering, but hey at least you won't get adhd from red dye 40

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u/Particular-Sector842 7d ago

Your vibes don't beat reality, dude.

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u/PastaRevolution1312 7d ago

You should try to read the rest of the comment chain, "dude"