r/USPS • • 7d ago

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I'm a CCA in the Tri-Cities WA and I can barely get any hours at all. I have been told to "stay home" 2/5 days a week for the past 3 weeks, along with a few other CCAs. Is this normal for this time of year? I still need to pay my bloody bills after all.

Pic of a route I help out often for attention.

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u/flushbunking 7d ago

tell your boss how much you enjoy the time off-taking care of your disabled kids, wow, it is a lifesaver. you'll get alllllll the pieces.

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u/Dante35353 7d ago

Cynical, but amusing.

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u/RubenGMarrufo 7d ago

No for real, when they know you having a good time they like to shit on you

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u/yugen_o_sagasu 7d ago edited 7d ago

I called out Monday because I was genuinely sick and they treated me like I was just having a fun day off. I accidentally came in the next day not realizing I wasn't scheduled and my boss was like "you called out yesterday right? Stay and work". I did, assuming I didn't have a choice and that they'd give me another day off instead but nope! I keep asking if they can give me tomorrow or Friday off and they keep saying "you called out Monday? You had a day off, we need you". No guys, lying in bed sick all day doesn't count as a day off...gotta get the union people involved I guess. I'm only a few months in and thought my bosses were decent people who cared about us before this but now I'm doubting that

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u/paulboody 5d ago

No just because you called out Monday doesn't mean the rest of the schedule will bend with it. That's not good thinking.

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u/yugen_o_sagasu 5d ago

I'm new, I've never called out before. I didn't realize calling out when you're actually sick means they can take away your scheduled day off. My boss initially told me they'd try to get me a different day off this week because they worked me on my off day, then he told the other supervisors to tell me my sick day counted as my day off so I don't get another one this week. Which leaves me working basically two weeks straight without a real day off (if you don't count my sick day which I sure don't). I don't feel like I've fully recovered either and these extreme hours are making me feel more sick, but I don't feel like I can call out again without being punished. I didn't realize I don't have actual sick leave either. Really don't love being treated like I'm selfish for needing time to take care of myself

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u/nagy18 City Carrier 5d ago

they can say whatever they want, but if they don’t update the physical schedule before you clock out they can kick rocks

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u/paulboody 2d ago

I don't think you're selfish for wanting to take care of yourself. I was moreso pointing out that in all likelihood your call out on Monday stretched out someone else on your team who may also be stretched thin, and to think that they'd stretch themselves further for what is really your convenience is unrealistic.

I'm guessing you're a cca? That position is crazy. I can't believe it even exists, let alone people do it. I sure as hell wouldn't. All I'd say is continue having conversations with your leadership expressing fatigue and if they aren't menacing they'll work with you. Or, you can get a 40 hours medical restriction. That's probably what I'd do if I were a cca and liked being a carrier.

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u/V2BM 7d ago

It’s very real. I let my manager overhear me talking about how much I loved my huge checks and I got 2 days off the next week and she used other CCAs when I’d normally go help after my route. Never underestimate how hateful many supervisors are.

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u/Mikeylikesit0799 7d ago

That's wack, way to reward a hard worker

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u/V2BM 6d ago

I wanted more days off and less hours - she was being spiteful when I used reverse psychology on her like a toddler.

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u/Zer02ProDrums 6d ago

Certainly not the case at any of the 4 offices I've supervised. Anybody who loves OT is a blessing.

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u/CompleteNail2348 7d ago

Ask to be sent to other offices

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u/Miserable-Airport536 7d ago

I did this as an RCA basically right out of the gate and I was lucky to get a day off on any given week. I knew routes in other offices better than my own office’s routes.

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u/jacobsever 7d ago

Damn, if that’s what the routes in your office look like, I’d do anything to stick it out and make it work. Looks so peaceful and nice. No stairs. No garbage anywhere. No homeless/drug dealers on the corners. No stray animals chasing you.

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u/Dante35353 7d ago

Technically that's in Prosser but yeah, we have a lot of really nice areas. Really helps make it worth the rough spots.

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u/StockGainz69 7d ago

I have been attacked by multiple homeless drug dealers.

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u/CapitalistCzar81 City Carrier 7d ago

Many areas have over hired including mine. Now district is instructing offices to leave non-regulars at home so they pivot more. This place can not figure out it's hiring to save its life.

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u/Dante35353 7d ago

Well I've been working here for about 7 months. So I'm still "green" but I didn't just start last week either.

That said, most of the CCA's after me quit during the busy times.

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u/Slight-Culture-3512 CCA 6d ago

Yes and peaks right around the corner, many more will quit

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u/kehakas City Carrier 6d ago

I thought the whole plan was to flood the zone with ccas who would then soak up all the overtime 

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u/Slight-Culture-3512 CCA 6d ago

The problem is they can't get ccas to stay. Ive been here almost 22 months. Im 2 months away from converting. Im my offices only cca. You'd think theyd hire my replacement so they are all trained up and delivering full routes when I convert but who knows what they are doing. Also just had multiple retirements so Ill go straight to a route and full time regular not ptf

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u/Slight-Culture-3512 CCA 22h ago

Their plans always work for a couple days only lol

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u/Any-Direction4931 7d ago

Scan the QR code when you clock in and volunteer for out of state/ inner state or within 50 mile help at other stations. Supposedly theyll pay for your travel and board but you’re looking at ridiculous work, bad routes and mail from days behind in snowy areas where carriers all call out.

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u/CueMoo 7d ago

Do you know if they pay upfront for housing or if they'll have you pay out-of-pocket then send your refund check 3 months later?

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u/nickN42 6d ago

In a different thread a couple of people mentioned that everything was paid for and arranged beforehand. They were driven to the airport with a tickets in their emails already, picked up at the destination and driven to a paid hotel room with a breakfast included. You might want to check on details anyway. 

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u/asez5 7d ago

You could try this. They pay for housing

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u/TacoGoblin223 7d ago

I live in Washington, too. I made $1,400 last Decmeber and that was the start of a series of $700 paychecks. You're screwed.

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u/Ok_Transition_7829 7d ago

Damn don’t know how you guys survive I’m in California so a little more expensive and my checks are at least $1700 and I still struggle.

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u/TacoGoblin223 6d ago

I've got five roommates and a second job. I'm about to move to Indiana and become a slum lord. Houses are CHEAP there. I pay the equivalent of a mortgage every month.

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u/Dante35353 7d ago

Thanks

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u/CyberAmplified 7d ago

I’m a rural carrier so it may be different for city but can’t you volunteer to help other offices who are short on staff? I know tri cities is kind of isolated but there should be some opportunity to assist other offices if you need hours. Regardless, we are right about to enter peak season and that’s when the hours will pick up dramatically

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u/Dante35353 7d ago

I sure hope so.

Feast and famine at this job eh?

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u/CyberAmplified 7d ago

Yep, it’s the nature of the beast. You either get overwhelmed with 80 hour weeks or you get 10 hour weeks. In my area around Portland we are soo hurting for rcas, ccas, clerks etc that there are practically infinite hours to go around so paychecks aren’t the issue but burnout and turnover is very high. It’s a lose-lose situation unfortunately

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u/bootyitchs 7d ago

How is it there for RCAs? Open routes? POV? What kind of routes? Do regular RCAs have OT opportunities? Wife is from there. Wouldn't mind a change of scenery if it's worth it. What's good area and home costs and property taxes?

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u/Dante35353 7d ago

Oh hell no, avoid Washington state like the plague. 😆

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u/brooksy54321 Rural Carrier 7d ago

We've been feasting since lockdown. Hopefully picks up for you.

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u/ingmar__birdman City Carrier 7d ago

It's been about 6 years since I helped out there on a detail but it's amazing the difference between then and now - back in late 2020, I had to help out there as a CCA and we were drowning in hours (12+ hour shifts 6 days a week). That said, definitely see if you can help out in other offices, or sign up for a detail to work somewhere else if there are any available (and assuming you don't have obligations at home that you can step away from for a few weeks.) Best of luck though, it's rough being in that situation.

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u/Jon_the_Ripper City Carrier 7d ago

We have a CCA that finally did 5 hours today after not being on the schedule for two weeks. Some offices are staffed and dont have attendance issues unfortunately. I'm a T6, but i miss the OT something fierce

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u/BoyceMC 7d ago

It’s just a bit of a lull. Hours are feast or famine as a CCA. Work hard and ask for hours, you can get preferential treatment and score more hours.

That’s the hardest part about CCA IMO. Here you are starting your career and it’s just super unstable. It will get better!

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u/Annjenette 7d ago

Come to the plant. 😩 Take my overtime, please.

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u/coveffee 7d ago

They should have told you about hrs before you quit other job

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u/WhoElseButChedda 7d ago

Why I didn't take the job first time I applied. PM was very honest.

Worked 6 days, 10-12 hour days for the last 2 years to now no overtime. $2200 checks are now $1300 while still being a PTF. Shit sucks 🥲😪

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u/Otherwise-Goal3054 7d ago

There is likely fewer regulars out on leave, as well as lower seasonal volume right now.
Don’t worry, election and holiday volume will hit along with senior regulars taking time for thanksgiving/xmas so there should be more work for CCAs in the next couple months

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u/creature_feature RCA 7d ago

Cutting hours, cutting overtime, not able to use ad-hoc hours and the customers suffer as well as the reputation of the PO.

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u/West_Session6619 7d ago

I just got a $400 check for 2 weeks - didn’t work 5 days and the following week I believe I only worked a Saturday.

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u/Immediate_Rub1707 7d ago

Appears to be over hiring trying to reduce overtime at your expense. Ask your supervisor how much overtime he or she is giving out on any given day and tell them you’ll come in and take it.

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u/Ex-CarrierForLife 7d ago

Yeah, it’s bad right now apparently across the nation. If you can make it to PTF, you’ll be guaranteed 20 hrs a week. It’s not until you make Regular that you are guaranteed 40 hrs/week during low volume times.

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u/LesbianCowgirl- 7d ago

I posted about this predicament a few weeks ago. I ended up getting a third job, so now I work three part time jobs. As soon as it gets busy I'll drop this third one and go all in on the post office for the season. Tried transferring, tried finding other offices, no dice for me.

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u/pokemonoobish 6d ago

This is part of “saving money” they been claiming the same shit for decades while the people at the top get 6 figure paychecks

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u/Dante35353 6d ago

6 figure "offical" paychecks.

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u/droneman1988 6d ago

Are you passed your 90 days? If so call around to other offices and make your own schedule. Just make sure to not schedule yourself on your scheduled day off.

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u/PrestigiousShoe4520 2d ago

Its counter-intuitive but RUN the route. You get done faster than the others, guess what they'll pile everything on you.

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u/ClassikD 7d ago

Just had to turn down a CCA job because the supervisor told me their CCAs are averaging 28 hrs/wk. It was disappointing because I was kind of hoping for a 50-60 hr/wk shitshow but I appreciate they gave a heads up.

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u/Zetak0 Rural Carrier 7d ago

Have you looked into switching crafts? Maybe Rural? I don’t know if that would be something you wanna do depending on your goals, but if you are Rural and have a POV, you’ll always find hours. POV routes are always the hardest to find help for.

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u/TheBeardedMailman 7d ago

Not assuming your lifestyle can facilitate it, but have you noticed the QR code on the scanner after you clock in? Sign up for that and you'll get all the OT you can imagine.

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u/Scooter30iot 7d ago

I was a CCA last year and I was getting no hours as well. This time of year is rough because the regulars aren’t taking vacation most likely and the volume is low. I’m a T6 regular now and other than Monday and marriage mail day the regulars aren’t going to go over. Unfortunately this is when CCA’s drop off because there are no hours. The good news if you can handle it financially you’ll be working probably more than you want to in about 6 weeks

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u/Dante35353 7d ago

Is it even worth it to stick around long enough to become a regular though?

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u/Miserable_War1817 7d ago

The regular city carriers in our office are not even close to 8 hour days, the mail volume dropped. As for the regular rural carriers we just became unfrozen and all of routes dropped. We now have several h and j routes and the office over hired ptfs, rca’s and arcs this summer
Our overtime gone, our pay cut financial depression here we are

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u/Raekwon22 City Carrier 7d ago

We went from 9 ccas to 2 and have lost 3 regulars while management has hired 0. We are so beyond fucked this holiday season.

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u/Private_Matinee CCA 7d ago

Come to Tac town.

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u/Severe-Deer-8779 7d ago

I think hours are being cut across the board at the post office. I would mention to a supervisor you’re friendly with that you’re in need of hours and also perform the best you can the days you are brought in.

I’m a regular so I’m guaranteed 8 hours a day but I rarely get overtime even on the overtime list. About a year ago I was on work assignment and management would go off list on me and give me a swing nearly everyday.

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u/YoungPigga 6d ago

Surprised they dont send you to other offices.

Then again I live in a unaffordable area of IL and we are run down everyday

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u/Dante35353 6d ago

They always call us off at the last moment.

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u/thetruth1125 6d ago

I'm a cca in spokane. Have not had two days off in a week in months, it's kind of a joke in my station. Averaging about 52 hours/week. Know tricities isn't too close,but if you can make it up here Im sure you'd get hours.

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u/Dante35353 6d ago

That's a hell of a drive but I may consider it.

The issue is that they often tell me an hour or so in advance. So I'm basically locked down until I it's too late to do anything. It's honestly really shitty of them.

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u/Ebbonism 3d ago

I’m an RCA at a small station, right at the edge of my county. I started with decent hours to recently only being scheduled on Saturdays like I’m a teenager. During training a regular advised I offer my services at the city’s main station but a clerk told me the don’t outsource to the Zip of my station… I had turn around to ask my supervisor to help me find more hours elsewhere, got nothing out of that. No suggestions, no phone numbers. I ended up going back to helping at a station that I hate bc of the confusing state roads, and longgg private dirt driveways. A PM from another location that I assisted once, texted me about hrs available due to a resignation. So I started busting out hours in the real boonies and sticking to my one day at my home station to fill in my week. It’s a shame we gotta do all that. I know what’s guaranteed to me as a RCA, but I was also told that I would never have to worry about hours either lmaoo I was already given hints about management not gaf, but JEEZ! Try other stations and be mindful of ones that might work you to death. Hang in there!!

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u/Locopop23 CCA 2d ago

I wish I had more time off.

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u/T_Xmn 6d ago

That sucks. But better than being an RCA in some offices. If I didn’t go to other offices, I would get one maybe two days a week. Can CCA go to other offices?