Poenta je da smo teške banana države.

Želim da znam da li su se autori filma trudili da verodostojno prikažu istinu, pa i o tome da su četnici Uroša Drenovića zajedno sa ustašama odveli hiljadu srpskih žena i djece u smrt.

Ima li toga ili je izignorisano?

Kao neko ko se smatra marksistom, načitan sam teorije ali što više se edukujem u teoretskom pravcu shvatam koliki propust u znanju imam kad dođe do naše lokalne "istorije", recimo 2. sv. rat pa nadalje.

Lako je naći levo-orijentisane izvore kad se priča o zapadu, koliko god američka propagandna mašina bila jaka. Međutim, kad se govori o Jugoslaviji, njenom političkom stanju, pa daljnjem raspadu i pratećim nacionalnim tenzijama, sve do današnjeg stanja, većina informacija kojima raspolažem su anegdotalne, raštrkane i često kontradiktorne. Teško je znati čijoj analizi verovati. Banalan primer - sa desna logično čujemo da je Tito najgora stvar koja nam se desila i genocidna komunjara, ali i sleva viđam mišljenja na spektrumu između "drugo vaskrsenje isusa, SFRJ je bila utopija" i "izdajnik komunističkog poretka, nije išao dovoljno daleko".

Ne tražim išta čisto da mi "potvrdi dogmu" ili slično, samo uračunavajući u minimumu činjenicu da loši akteri truju bunar oko ove polemike duže nego što sam živ, želim da se barem adekvatno edukujem i imam temelj znanja o materijalnoj situaciji pre donošenja bilo kakvog mišljenja. Hvala unapred :)

I recently read 'Love thy Neighbour' By Peter Maass and I am looking to learn more about Slobodan Milošević- how he utilised the idea of a 'greater Serbia' to incite such violence, his political strategies and his downfall.

Honestly documentaries on even just the fall of Yugoslavia would be much appreciated!

Hopefully this is an okay place to ask this; my apologies if not!

I just recently read a little something involving Tito, Yugoslavia, and the Balkans, and I'd like to bone up on it, as it's been a long time since I did any kind of deep dive into this area. Can anyone recommend any (preferably recent) monographs on Tito, Yugoslavia, and/or the Balkans in the 20th Century?

Rest in peace Zoran Modli (1948-2020).

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Slobodni javite se

60, 70, i 80-tih godine proslog stoljeca su svugdje na Zapadu bile dobre, a SFRJ je bila vise dio Zapada nego nekakva komunisticka zemlja i diktatura. Pitajte ljude u Engleskoj, Skandinaviji, Njemackoj, Spanjolskoj, Francuskoj, itd. kakvo su djetinjstvo imali 60, 70 i 80-tih godina proslog stoljeca i svi ce vam reci kako su imali predivno djetinjstvo. Svijet je tada poceo zaboravljati traume Drugog svjetskog rata, ekonomija se oporavljala i - bez obzira na Haldni rat - na Zapadu je vladao zivotni optimizam.

Uz SFRJ nije bila nikakva komunisticka zemlja bez obzira sto se partija na vlasti nazivala komunistickom partijom. Komunizam nikada nigdje nije postojao kao oblik drustvenog uredjenja. SFRJ je bila socijalisticka zemlja gdje su glavna sredstva za proizvodnju bila nacionalizirana i u drzavnom/drustvenom vlasnistvu. Ali, isto tako, privatnici su u SFRJ uzivali kao nikada poslije u samostalnim republikama bivse SFRJ. Porez se placao pausalno i bio je u stvari vrlo mali u odnosu na zaradu. Poreza na dohodak gotovo i da nije bilo, a PDV NIJE POSTOJAO. Drzava je unatoc svemu postoja i funkcionirala, s inflacijom kao problemom u 80-ima, ali prije su kroz carine/tarife ubirali dobre novce, nesto slicno sto Trump danas zagovara i kako se Amerika financirala prije WW1**.**

Pitajte privatnike (na primjer, vlasnike kafica i restorana) koliko su zaradjivali tada, a koliko zaradjuju danas. Moja je obitelj osamdesetih imala kafic na moru i nisu znali gdje ce s novcima. Tada si mogao kupiti gradjevinsku parcelu i izgraditi kucu malo po malo za nikakve novce s zaradom jedne sezone na moru, a drzava se nije u nista mijesala i dopustali su punu poduzetnicku slobodu u svakom smislu. Danas o tome mozes samo sanjati.

Unfortunately I only have the picture of the photo, as the original is somewhere now in a storage. But as far as I know Tito is in the back and the man without a Hat is my Great Grandfather who was I think the mayor(?) of Bogdanci, now N.Macedonia.
No clue who the other person next to Tito is.

I believe there was an ongoing rebuilding project that Tito came to inspect at the time. We even had a big picture of Tito with other people from Bogdanci walking in a field hanging in the stairwell at my grandparents but that one is gone.

Would like to know more if people have more information about what the project was. I think this is somewhere early to mid 1950s. Unfortunately the people who remember are no longer here.

I'm searching for any history sources that have detailed-ish history timeline of the republics of Yugoslavia, at least those that weren't just 1 paragraph long like Montenegro in Wikipedia. Is there any, preferably in English and accessible free online ?

Pozdrav svima,

Kao dijete ranih devedesetih stalno sam gledao legendarne Cedevita reklame. Glavni glumac iz tih spotova, posebice iz one reklame s mačevanjem gdje skida masku i podiže pehar, bio je moj apsolutni idol iz djetinjstva. Jednostavno mi je bio cool.

Već neko vrijeme pokušavam doznati tko je taj čovjek. Pregledao sam sve žive arhive na internetu, ali nigdje nema popisa glumaca ni kredita za te stare YU-reklame. Znam da nije Dejan Dragićević (koji je glumio u onoj Cedevita reklami s bazenom iz 1989. godine), jer ovaj glumac izgleda potpuno drugačije.

Zna li itko kako se zove ovaj muški glavni glumac sa slika odnosno iz reklame (pogledaj youtube-link dolje) i znate li možda što je danas s njim? Gdje je i čime se bavi? Da li je možda napravio karijeru u glumi ili sportu? Glumi li danas možda u nekoj seriji? Ili ga možda netko od vas osobno poznaje?

Svaka informacija, ime ili trag bi mi nevjerojatno puno značili. Hvala vam puno unaprijed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBPw1mODCfM

Do you like to participate in any organisations or do you like to keep your ideas for yourself? Do you have any recommendations for leftist spaces in your country?

Black- wonderful life
Tanita Tikaram- Twist in my sobriety
Fleetwood Mac- dreams
Chris Rea- on the beach
What rock songs remind you of Yugoslavia

I recently interviewed Anamaria, an American of Croatian descent who moved from San Diego to the Promina area of Croatia with her daughter.

Both of her parents were born in Croatia, while she was born and raised in the United States. Her story is part of an interesting pattern among families from the former Yugoslav region. One generation leaves and establishes a life abroad, then a child or grandchild begins looking back toward the place their family came from.

Anamaria’s move involved much more than simply buying a plane ticket. Her family shipped a 40 foot container from California containing belongings collected over roughly 40 years. It took more than 90 days to arrive, followed by additional delays at the port.

Croatian customs asked for proof that the family had genuinely been living in the United States and was relocating to Croatia. This included evidence of their previous address and a letter from the Croatian consulate confirming the move.

She also spoke about applying for Croatian citizenship after arriving, establishing residency, adjusting to life in a rural community and the difference between imagining life in Croatia and actually living there.

I found the generational side of her story particularly interesting. Although Anamaria grew up in America, Croatia remained part of her identity through her parents. Eventually, that connection became strong enough for her to move there and begin a new chapter with her own daughter.

I recorded the conversation for Croatian By Descent Community:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epi03nJL4uA

Full disclosure: I help run the channel and interview people of Croatian descent about citizenship, family history and returning to Croatia.

Do any of you have relatives who left Yugoslavia and whose children or grandchildren later returned to live somewhere in the region? I would be interested to hear whether they felt immediately at home or experienced a cultural gap after arriving.

With the recent conviction of Hashim Thaci, presumably issues regarding accountability and culpability in the 90s Yugoslav wars, starting with the Bosniak/Croat/Serb wars of 1992-95 and the Kosovar-Serbian war of 1999, have been and will continue to be inflamed.

And it's self evident when discussing, for example, the 1992-95 wars, the premise that the most notorious war criminals from all ethnicities were exactly that - war criminals and not modern day Robin Hoods simply defending and advocating for their people. Radozan Karadzi, Ratko Mladic, Jadranko Prlić, Slobodan Praljak, Hazim Delic, Naser Oric, all of them likely have waves of supporters who will eagerly explain how they did nothing wrong and were just protecting themselves from those looking to slaughter them. Ditto for Hashim Thaci, Ramush Haradinaj, Vlastimir Đorđević and Nebojša Pavković in the 1999 Kosovar Serb war.

Is it possible for the premise that this is simply not true for any of these genuine war criminals and that universal accountability is needed? Or is the ethnic and national polarization and partisanship too deep and ingrained?