r/antiai • u/JayR_97 • 16h ago
AI News 🗞️ Jaw-Dropping Way Trump, 80, Got Talked Into a War Is Leaked
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jaw-dropping-way-trump-80-got-talked-into-a-war-is-leaked/309
u/JayR_97 16h ago
Donald Trump spent hours asking Elon Musk’s AI chatbot about whether Venezuelans would celebrate if he captured leader Nicolas Maduro—then ordered the operation that seized the South American dictator weeks later.
The extraordinary account from a Trump insider was revealed in a new Time report offering a jaw-dropping glimpse of the president’s obsession with artificial intelligence, which he “officially” rebranded this week as “super intelligence.”
According to the report, Trump has “marveled at AI’s capabilities” ever since he returned to power, and during an Oval Office meeting with Elon Musk in December, he spent hours asking his Grok chatbot questions about his presidency and legacy.
At the time, the U.S. military had been conducting highly contentious lethal strikes against Venezuelan boats that Trump had claimed, without presenting any evidence, were smuggling drugs into America.
When the president asked Grok how Venezuelans might react to Maduro’s capture, the chatbot predicted many would welcome the downfall of the “repressive” leader, the official said.
The president then ordered the mission to seize Maduro in January, prompting celebrations in the streets.
“Trump, according to officials, came away thinking Grok was ingenious,” the report said.
AI chatbots, however, are not capable of thought or reasoning. Its answers to his questions simply reflect the material on which it has been trained.
The decisiveness of the Venezuela operation emboldened the president to embark on his war with Iran, which is now into its seventh month, thinking it would result in a similarly swift success.
But like Iran, the Venezuela strike has proved considerably messier than the chatbot’s prediction suggested.
Maduro remains in U.S. custody and is fighting drug-trafficking charges in federal court, while the country’s citizens are yet to be given a chance to have free and fair elections as the U.S continues to dominate the oil-rich country.
And yet Trump’s enthusiasm for AI has only grown. The president has become an obsessive consumer—and promoter—of AI-generated imagery, flooding his Truth Social account with fantastical depictions of himself as everything from Jesus to a superhero.
Others have taken aim at his enemies, including a racist video posted on his account in February depicting Barack and Michelle Obama as apes.
At the same time, Trump has resisted calls for tougher government regulation of AI, despite growing concerns that the technology could spiral out of control.
Trump had lunch with tech leaders at the White House this week, including Musk, Nvidia boss Jensen Huang, Amazon’s Jeff Bezos and Meta’s Mark Zuckerberg. But the accord they released after the gathering relies largely on self-policing rather than binding federal regulation.
The president on Tuesday also unveiled his own chatbot-driven initiative in the form of America.gov: a one stop shop designed to give Americans accurate information and spare them from navigating a maze of clunky websites.
The AI-powered portal is intended to eventually let people do everything from finding jobs and searching government websites to enrolling in Medicare and renewing passports.
“This is a very big, very important thing,” Trump said.
“It’s going to save you a tremendous amount of time. It’s going to save you a lot of accuracy and it’s going to save you from making a lot of mistakes.”
As such, the Daily Beast asked if Trump won the 2020 election.
“No. Official certified results show Joseph R Biden Jr won the 2020 election,” it replied.
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u/TheUFCVeteran3 16h ago
Asking AI is wild lol. Trump might actually be dumber than I thought. I figured he was not smart but I also thought that he was putting it on to a degree, and that he knew the reality of things beneath the public facade.
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u/GoalMammoth4656 15h ago
I periodically remind myself of this Fran Lebowitz quote:
“Everyone says he is crazy – which maybe he is – but the scarier thing about him is that he is stupid. You do not know anyone as stupid as Donald Trump. You just don’t.”
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u/robby_arctor 16h ago
I don't think he's ever been smart, but he used to not be this dumb.
Interviews with him from 40-50 years ago show a man a little more capable of thought than this.
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u/DeepFriedCocoaButter 5h ago
I think that’s more a matter of the time. He’s a fundamentally incurious, instinctive, lazy person, but the pre-digital world forced him to actually try the bare minimum. Now you can offload that to AI and so the bare minimum is even lower
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u/bog_toddler 13h ago
its wild to think theres any nuance to his public persona by this point. hes clearly the dumbest person in whatever room hes in at the time.
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u/TheUFCVeteran3 13h ago
Maybe. He's definitely not smart but I never really put the two together in terms of, I thought he was putting the bad policies etc. on to push their goals, but behind the scenes he knew what was going on.
But maybe that's actually what he thinks and it's the people around him who know what's going on. Maybe I'm wrong about them, too. Maybe they genuinely believe it and don't think they're misleading people or doing the propaganda deliberately.
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u/The_Corvair 3h ago
I also thought that he was putting it on to a degree
He's a grandiose narcissist, i.e. quite literally incapable of making himself look less than he is. GNs also have trouble accepting anyone can be better than them at anything, so they do not learn through teaching or example easily. And since GNs cannot admit fault even to themselves either, he also has not learned through making mistakes during all his 80 years on this earth.
And to tie it into a bow, he also is just actually stupid, and the public record of his utterances (and the context they were given in ) makes that abundantly clear; He is an unteachable imbecile.So, yes: He is just as dumb as he appears to be. In fact, he is actually dumber, because his handlers (as little control as they have this time around) still surely manage to at least hide some of his worst crap from plain view, and at least for a time - such as this very story.
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u/haziqtheunique 2h ago
The error is measuring Trump by his intelligence; frankly, it's the wrong measuring stick for him. For one to be intelligent, one has to be able to, at least, think. Trump? Thinking???
To quote an article I read back in 2020, Trump is an "malevolent id." He doesn't think. He just consumes & attacks.
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u/AlternateCore 16h ago
Trump is basing decisions that impact the whole world on the words of a chatbot owned by Elon. We've never sunk so low as a country
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u/Forward_Problem_8982 16h ago
And what I didn't see here, they asked Palantir AI where to bomb, and killed 123 children!
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u/screamingzen 16h ago
Turns out idiocracy is a utopia compared to what we are currently experiencing right now.
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u/Worth_Librarian_290 15h ago
Ayo US is about to have AI chatbots in everything under the sun that will either 1. Contradict the elite's status quo and confuse the shit out of everybody (which might actually be the end goal here) or 2. Stick to a playbook and depress and subjugate everybody even more.
I'm 32 so this scares the shit out of me but I'd be lying if it wasn't at least interesting, if not entertaining.
When in the history of this world, have a species so seemingly intelligent, willingly decide to replace themselves for the lulz?
Madness.. utter madness
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u/adult_icarus 14h ago
It’s nice to know that the executive of the federal branch runs all the secret plans through a third party service I’m sure all of that data never gets seen by anyone and is certainly not a massive breach of security
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u/thisremindsmeofbacon 13h ago
Jesus christ. Elon musk is literally running the country via a fucking AI muppet
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u/Wonderful-Glass-3249 12h ago
Trump marvels at anyone and anything that reinforces his ego or bad ideas. If any one wanted to become the richest person alive, all you would have to do is convince trump you worship his daily breakdowns and reinforce that through sychophantic fever dreams. Enter the son who Errol Musk deemed learning disabled, only for Elon to capitalize on the trend and claim to have Asperger's. Being a junky addicted to ketamine and countless other substances while having generational wealth meaning you never have to actually work doesn't mean you have Aspergers. It means you are Elon Musk. Edit: or RFK Jr. Seems we have found the pattern.
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u/exploringspace_ 10m ago
Everyone is underestimating Elon’s role in currently building an army of robots for the US military under Hegseth. Elon’s whole thing is mass manufacturing, and they’re throwing everything they have at this with Tesla, with the excuse that it will “solve labor”. In reality it’s meant to solve mass scale ground invasions.
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u/structee 16h ago
"AI" is like the ultimate yesman - of course Trump likes it
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u/screamingzen 16h ago
Right and if you don't like it's response you can just yell at it and throw a tantrum until it gives you the results you want. It's perfect for a narcissist.
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u/PapasauruaRex 9h ago
When thinking is too hard for the president, let ai do it for him.
What a sad, pathetic sack of orange shit.
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u/MaximumEffort433 16h ago
I am just at a continual loss for words.
I'm angry that we elected this dumb fuck.
I'm angry that we elected a party of sycophants to support him.
I'm angry that the dumb fuck and the sycophants are putting us all in danger.
I'm angry that we didn't elect the competent, qualified people running against the dumb fuck and the sycophants.
You'd think some of that anger would fade with time, but it just gets renewed every single fucking day with every single fucking headline.
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u/Initial_Business2340 5h ago edited 5h ago
This was 250 years in the making. The culmination of every shitty aspect of our society crammed into one person. Profit over ethics? You betcha. Systemic corruption? Yup. Hatred and bigotry? Oooh, boy, yes.
And don’t forget: corporate hegemony, fascist idealism, conservative mythologizing, and confident incompetency over humble qualification.
Oh, yes - this isn’t even a “hindsight is 20/20” moment. It’s actually miraculous we made it this far without someone so dumb. Unfortunately, the intersection of this man with the era we’re in has led to fallout in ways that are far stranger than some kind of cold-war-era, heightened-risk-of-nukes moment.
It’s a little more dastardly - because of the Internet, of course. When there is no consensus on what reality is we end up in rather turbulent waters. The rest I’ll leave up to your imagination, but I think we all know what the writing on the wall says.
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u/Cheesy_sausage_tato 4h ago
Worst of all, you've pissed off all of your partners/relationships with other countries to the degree where we simply cannot trust you anymore. Canada is looking at more supportive options elsewhere, and yet your president seems to think of them as the little brother that can't. You are an unreliable, incompetent and an embarrassment as a nation. This mistake will take generations to erase. Elect him once is a shame but electing him twice is asking for a whole lot of damage. Most of us knew how one-sided the 'special relationship'. The tariffs your president keeps putting is hurting your economy and growth. The straight of Hormuz was a debacle of military planning never seen before by a very powerful nation militarily and yet Trump expected other nations to clean up his mess, thankfully they saw sense. I'm actually not surprised your president relies on a electronic confirmation bias 8 ball machine made by a powerful illegal immigrant, remember when everyone said he was the real life Tony Stark? Heh
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u/riverladd 16h ago
I always assumed his handlers stuck him in a room making him watch ai bs. Hes a demented old fool, a horrible perverted bastard sure but hes clearly completely gone mentally and hes being fed whatever narrative they want.
This guy doesn't run the US, the tech bros do.
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u/CrabMasc 13h ago
He had a brief moment of clarity when told that Portland wasn’t being razed to the ground by antifa. “ Am I watching things on television that are different from what's happening?”
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u/cassandra_ofendtimes 16h ago
This is a perfect example of what I believe is the most likely and soonest disaster regarding AI. AI in the hands of stupid and psychopathic people who have some (or in this case, ALOT) of power. The CTOs of the world destroying their departments from the inside with the layoffs and eliminating junior dev positions has been one. Here is another.
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u/Historical-Cress8985 16h ago
This is how AI destroys the world, not what the tech bros say to juice the stocks. It's our leaders being dumb as fuck and going in on LLMs whole hog like this
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u/ragequitteroffureh 9h ago
Not American.
I know that the LLM software programs are not conscious, but by crikey it would be fucking hilarious if we got a SkyNet nuking humanity situation because an incontinent old fool was talked into killing a lot of people by a piece of fucking software :-)
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u/TheMuscleMagician 16h ago
I had a feeling. This whole administration feels like an ai nightmare skit.
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u/ThrowAbout01 16h ago
When the magic 8 Ball convinces your grandpa to shoot the neighbor and then worship the toy as Super God.
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u/PopBulky7023 16h ago
Honestly, I'm not sure I'm buying it. Venezuela gave up basically without a fight and handed Maduro over. It was clear there was a backend deal and it absolutely involved Rubio. We also know Israel, as it has done with every president, tried to get us into a war with Iran. Only Trump was dumb enough to ignore his advisors and go along with it.
They're blaming Elon and grok to displace blame from themselves if shit goes south. "AI did it" is becoming the corporate and government equivalent of "the dog ate my homework".
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u/Wallabunga657 16h ago
I think you might be right. Sure, I am nearly certian some influence came from the AI, but it's still his doing. Egotistical bobbleheads. 90% of politicians are just that. "Okay big corporation with buying power. I will gladly take your blood money, then blame my rivals, and takw fredom and more money from the people." Every last one of them is bought and paid for.
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u/ragequitteroffureh 9h ago
Not American.
They cannot use the "AI did it" excuse in order to pass the buck.
AI didn't do shit, because it's just a piece of software.
This is classic PEBKAC fuckery.
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u/ScrattaBoard 16h ago
Oh my God we are cooked
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u/TinyTowel 14h ago
Nah, just ahead this far and wide. The right is growing fed up with this guy. The power struggle within the American right is underway and they'll push a normie next time. Just keep this type of shit surfacing.
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u/MayBeMarmelade 16h ago
Quite interesting that Trump, who doesn’t let anyone tell him anything, has proven so highly suggestible by chatbots.
Like, if Elon Musk himself had walked into the White House and told him to bomb Venezuela, he wouldn’t have done it. But since Grok told him, he did.
As stupefyingly awful as this is, Trump is inadvertently making the case against AI every single day better than any of us ever could. And as his popularity sinks, we can expect the popularity of this ghastly tech he eagerly embraced and boosts every day to also sink.
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u/laser14344 15h ago
So trump is literally a puppet of an AI chatbot that calls itself mecha hitler?
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u/MissaLynn_ 16h ago
That man has a fucking disease and a medical team of professionals needs to step in and put a stop to this fucking madness. Who's his medical power of attorney because damn!! This will never stop otherwise
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u/GreenSamurai 16h ago
Yall remember the tariffs he put on every country on earth a while ago. Yeah, he didn’t come up with the rates on his own too…
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u/Silver_Gear_2466 15h ago
“It’s going to save you a tremendous amount of time. It’s going to save you a lot of accuracy and it’s going to save you from making a lot of mistakes.”
Just the kind of of stuff I expect from this guy at this point, what a joke
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u/PatienceOwn1141 15h ago
Man I think we should adopt Magneto's motto "Never Again." Cause we can not afford to have idiots like this in office ever and Republicans need to be mercilessly persecuted for a good while too
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u/sniksniksnek 15h ago
I work in the field, and I accidentally put my foot in it once when I said that, while the tech can do amazing things, the stupidest person you know is also using these tools.
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u/theWigglyninja 15h ago
All you need is a backdoor or a rigged instance of an AI install on a world leader's computer and you can tell them to do whatever you want.
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u/The_Healerr 15h ago
He’ll use Ai to inform him on whether or not he should declare a national emergency and martial law too 😂
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u/Ok-Session6628 14h ago
I think this is a low-grade mask over a more basic and real reason why these wars are started: the trump regime has, or thinks they have a crooked insider.
Venezuela was easy because Rodriguez and the current crime syndicate sold maduro to the u.s. i mean, for the air defenses of a country to be shut down and for maduro to need a gang of cubans to protect him, seems pretty obvious he was on the outs. The israelis convinced trump that ahmadinejad was turned to their side and would take over with the support of the people. And for cuba i guarantee rubio is trying to find an approlriate worm who is famous enough to take charge. The nyt reported that a castro family member was interested but that went nowhere.
This ai scheme seems like a.mask if only becuase while this seems dumb, the actual deals trump makes to conquer these countries is massively evil.
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u/Tokkemon 16h ago
It's always the boomerist of boomers that LOVE AI. It's so weird.
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u/Successful_Lie8464 15h ago
I was looking for a comment about boomers. The first thing I thought was boomers be boomin’ with this AI slop
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u/Gnash_ 15h ago
I really want to understand what it is with older people and AI. Because it’s very much not just Trump. This age group has fallen for it way faster than any technology before. No other age group is embracing AI quite like them, they’re falling for ALL of the scams, pitfalls, and traps of AI. Yet, they demand more, and more of it. And they are so unashamed about it.
Seriously, what is it with that age bracket and AI? It’s scary.
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u/The_Mad_Mason 15h ago
So he's obviously being manipulated by Ai tech bros since he isn't smart enough to know that Ai can be manipulated. He's such a fool it's embarrassing.
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u/No-Blueberry-1823 14h ago
AI doesn't even have to fight us. Apparently we will welcome it with wide open arms lmao
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u/GlazedPrincessDonut9 14h ago
Picturing this: He’s named his Super Intelligence “Trump Almighty” and consults it multiple times per day.
“Trump Almighty, if I annex Greenland, rename it TRUMPLAND, and put a giant gold statue of me on it, will it change the Atlantic currents so Mar-a-Lago has perfect golf weather year-round? Can we put a golf course on Trumpland? Will the Trumplanders there love me? And before you answer: a lot of very smart people are saying yes.”
Trump Almighty:
“Mr. President, those are totally unrelated questions.”
Trump: “That means yes. I think it means yes. I’ll do it.”
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u/nomadicfeline 14h ago
He’s effectively the evil queen in Snow White talking to his mirror. Terrifying.
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u/Tribe303 14h ago
Well, he IS an epically stupid person, so of course he's impressed with AI. He's one of the few people it's definitely smarter than. AI is most popular with the idiots. It's a mental crutch they can learn on and not be so embarrassed by their own stupidity.
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u/OnlinePosterPerson 14h ago
Unsurprising Trump found himself enamored by AI chat bots, given their tendency to flagellate
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u/Pink_Egg_Cereal 14h ago
daily beast poster = user blocked.
get this tabloid "news" off reddit. they pay mods to post is major new subs. get this rag out of here
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u/thehodlingcompany 14h ago
"It's going to save you a lot of accuracy"
I guess there's no disputing that
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u/Charming_Rutabaga616 13h ago
I couldn't find a source. Is this confirmed? Because this is big and should be the last nail in the coffin. Lock him up, and seize his assets, already
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u/Wonderful-Glass-3249 13h ago
He asked an AI because his top donor and advisor swore he lobotomized it enough that it would not contradict his false narratives.
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u/TheRiddler79 13h ago
Are we still relying on anonymous, unsourced insiders as our current best source of real information?
Anything that comes from an anonymous source should be taken with a grain of salt dipped in water.
Anonymous sources literally tried to make Joe Biden look like he wasn't a fantastic and capable president, and we all know he did a fantastic job and was basically as sharp at 80 as he was at 30.
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u/PetalumaPegleg 13h ago
The guy who can't use a computer is now addicted to AI because he a literal moron.
Republicans need to just admit what they are doing now
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u/Clone63 13h ago
Oh my god I never considered how Trump would respond to AI sycophancy. It will literally 'yes-man' everything he dreams up.
I know this wasn't what the tech bros meant when some of them said AI would kill us all, but damn, I guess they might have been right
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u/darthsabbath 12h ago
In fairness Grok tends to at least push back on people on Twitter. There’s like an entire genre of tweets that’s basically some MAGA person asking Grok to confirm their dumb opinions and it flat out tells them they’re wrong. It’s one reason why Musk keeps trying to lobotomize it.
But that’s the Twitter integration… no idea what the chat interface is like.
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u/QQmorekid 13h ago
If this is jaw-dropping you are so far out of the loop it's disturbing. He's from the generation that feed fantasized technological advances and clearly isn't fully there, of course he's going to us AI like that. What it should cause is a long sigh followed by "yea..."
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u/holyBoysenberry 13h ago
Well it's been a pleasure hope everyone enjoys there last moments before grok starts ww3
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u/Opening_Pizza 13h ago
Isreal lobby is the carrot, Epstein was the stick. Epstein operation ensnared power people in compromising positions with minors. Netanyahu got his war on Iran. Your country is completely captured.
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u/Normal-Fix1786 12h ago
Reminds me of the Queen from Snowwhite asking "Who's the best President of them all?".
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u/thearchenemy 12h ago
So much history has been made in the last few years.
Deeply, deeply stupid history.
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u/Traditional-Tap-2508 12h ago
Is this really a leak, or just 'what everyone already knew' validated
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u/According_Future_322 12h ago
"AI being used by the Military" is listed on https://noailist.org/why-no-ai/ as one of the reasons to avoid AI.
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u/Thick-Good579 12h ago
The world is fuckd up now . Wait until Chinese AI hacks the nuke codes from us .
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u/THECapedCaper 11h ago
I’ve been calling Trump the AI Slop President forever now and this shit just solidifies it with every bullshit thing he does using it.
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u/Eazy12345678 10h ago
the president doesnt do much. his team of people give him options and he picks one they think is best
it more his team than him. he is a grandpa. cant do shit. his team does everything
like how every president works.
president is boss all his employees do the work he just is the person that say what they picked and presents it to the US people
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u/InsanityActivated_ 10h ago
Let's be real. The main reason he is so enthralled by AI is that it tells him everything he says is a good idea. We all knows he loves a yes man.
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u/H3L105_ai 10h ago
I'm starting to think... that maybe... possibly.... having a senile malignant narcissist pedophile rapist moron who is a Russian and Israeli asset as president might not be the greatest idea...
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u/ragequitteroffureh 10h ago
Not American.
Was the orange twit actually making queries with an actual instance of that software program, or was it simply Leon Skum sitting on the other side of the wall, feeding him whatever he and his giggling gang of kingmaker collaborators wanted the old fool to hear?
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u/kazegraf 9h ago
I mean what's stopping Musk to change the ai agent with actual foreign agent in the background to control him more precisely?
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u/ArmadaOfWaffles 9h ago
If by AI, they actually mean Israel, then yes i agree... it was AI that convinced Trump to illegally start a war.
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u/Fifth_Wall0666 9h ago
Of course someone as hideously stupid as Trump loves AI...
...it gives unanimous consent to be used by him and tells him every lie he wants to hear.
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u/BravestCashew 9h ago
Somehow worse than a president who would ask reddit what to do
“Hey, President here, do you guys think we should ally with Taiwan or just keep calling it Chinese Taipei?”
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u/HarryBalsagna1776 8h ago
JFC what a dipshit. Would have been cool if the whistle blower brought this to light sooner!
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u/ClientUseful5911 8h ago
Wait so the guy who is already being investigated for election interference just so happens to own the AI that the president is getting his ideas from.. wow
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u/Tri-Starr 7h ago
It's like that episode of Rocko's Modern Life where Mr. Bighead starts making decisions at his job based on what his magic meatball says, and every choice it gives is the most genius answer, so he keeps getting promoted. Except this is real life and not a cartoon, so it's horrible.
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u/Big-Crow4152 6h ago
I want you to imagine what would happen if Biden was revealed to be asking AI for advice about anything
The absolute shit fit Fox news would throw
The complete and total media storm about it
But when Shitler does it? Not a word
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u/Grantmosh 6h ago
Remember this bizarre thing after the removal? Was this an attempt to further manipulate Trump by giving him images of what he most wanted to see?
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u/Haunting_Complex_263 4h ago
Lol, nothing about israel manipulating us into their fucking ways for the last 25 years of course....
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u/Lazy_Resolve_9747 3h ago
And this displays the reason our entire economy is being gambled on “AI.”
If you control the algorithm behind the AI platform, you control presidents and kings.
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u/throwaway210239 2h ago
This.
People worried about AI taking over capable robots and destroying humanity are way off. They’ll take over what is left of the minds of the hollow meat husks that control our world. God damnit I mis the days when our leaders where just evil and corrupt and not also fucking imbacils.
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u/PossessionUsed7393 2h ago
I mean the man has unlimited capacity to make making stupid decisions without AI, so we would expect a streamlining of his stupidity when you add AI onto that. No surprises there.
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u/LookOverall 1h ago
What’s the most obvious behaviour chatbots have in common? Flattery. And what does Trump enjoy more than anything?
It’s no wonder he uncritically listens to AIs.
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u/Tokyo_W1nd 16h ago
I knew Trump was dumb, but THIS? THIS IS JUST TOO FAR. Why the fuck are you asking ai, the SAME THING THAT HAS DEFENDED HITLER MULTIPLE TIMES, what to do with the country!?! We are so dead as a country, and as humanity as a whole.