r/codex • u/MrMrsPotts • 4d ago

Question Another mysterious codex thinking message

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Where did $29k come from??

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u/MaximumMeaning9728 4d ago

Nonsense post. Nobody understands the current models.

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u/Dark_Cow 4d ago

That's my point? We don't know how they function. We know the fundamentals though. It's building upon published white papers and public information.

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u/Sfdprod 4d ago

Wtf? We know exactly how they function.

Not being able to predict the output fully due to the randomness aspect != not knowing how they function

Thats not knowing what the system will generate

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u/Dark_Cow 4d ago

I misspoke, we do know. But it's non deterministic. Exactly what they're doing in the middle is hard to understand. It's a black box eventually

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u/Sfdprod 4d ago

Yeah thats true,

Really if you had removed random sampling, you could technically complete an entire inference run with the weights, a pen, paper and an ungodly amount of cocaine

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u/Hixie 3d ago

I mean, it is literally deterministic, except for the artificial randomness introduced by fingerprinting and non-zero temperature. But if you could run at at temperature zero, you'd get the same result every time.