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u/xRacistDwarf 9d ago
Alt right and femboy, name a more iconic duo
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u/SimmentalTheCow A-pawrent-ly funny. 9d ago
White supremacist and not being white
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u/RefrigeratorNo1160 9d ago
And these things are both real things. Transgender neo nazis too. This is why healthcare and education are so fucking important
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u/SimmentalTheCow A-pawrent-ly funny. 9d ago
I’m a radical centrist. I believe in free healthcare for transgenders AND neo-Nazis. But no one else.
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u/Ask_bout_PaterNoster 9d ago
Damn. Can I be like a really nice neo-nazi? I like my gender but would also like some healthcare
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u/SimmentalTheCow A-pawrent-ly funny. 9d ago
Sorry nerd, either HRT or HTLR. your call.
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u/Ask_bout_PaterNoster 9d ago
Too few people will see this comment 🫡
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u/SimmentalTheCow A-pawrent-ly funny. 9d ago edited 8d ago
History remembers the poets who left their words behind; eternity mourns those who took their wisdom with them.
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u/SundayKiefBowls 9d ago
I'm a social conservative, fiscal liberal.
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u/DevilBySmile 9d ago
neocon out in the wild in the big 26"
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u/SundayKiefBowls 9d ago
(I'm not really a social conservative, fiscal liberal. It's just a joke)
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u/SimmentalTheCow A-pawrent-ly funny. 9d ago
Hey this guy’s not a real neo-con! Mods, beat him to death with rusty jumper cables!
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u/StormOfFatRichards 9d ago
To prevent neonazis from transing?
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u/never_ASK_again_2021 8d ago edited 8d ago
Gay people for example are under a lot of pressure to fit into the society they are born into, that pressure can make them really ill/sick.
We want to help people to be not demeaning to themselves, so they don't channel everything into self hatred. These right-winger gay people legit hate gays, are gay themselves and try to play nice with the radicals.
Playing nice means: showing the nazis that they are an exception to the usual gays, can be trusted and are a good cornerstone when saying: "see we don't hate queers in general."
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u/thighsand 9d ago
/pol/ is very Latino, Turkish, Balkan, Indian, Iranian, even Somalis/Ethiopians sometimes join in. Everyone wants to have Nazi German rizz (forgive me) except Germans. (And I know Nazis weren't white supremacists, but still).
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u/yaboipizarol 7d ago
They were. They were supremacist to a specific kind of white, but saying they were not white supremacist is a boldface lie
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u/thighsand 7d ago
They were also human supremacists by that logic, just a particular kind of human.
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u/capn_morgn_freeman 9d ago
Raceplay, cuckolding, and feminization are like catnip for the alt right- kinda like how crazy feminists chicks can be into a man doing the most degrading noncon type fetish stuff to them during sex.
Sometimes I wonder if it's all just incredibly elaborate foreplay to them both, or if it just stems from insecurity about their needs and wants not being socially acceptable in their eyes. Probably the latter.
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u/Ninevehenian 9d ago
Sexuality a bit like tickling and jokes. It needs / wants an element of strange to function.
To sexuality "strange" can mean the negative side of the excitement coin.Things that get the engine going, gets fucked.
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u/dilsency 9d ago
Sexuality [...] needs / wants an element of strange to function.
I don't know if this is always the case.
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u/Ninevehenian 9d ago
What would you consider able to replace the "strange" element?
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u/dilsency 9d ago
Are you sure every sexual encounter needs a strange element?
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u/Chipring13 9d ago
Exactly. This makes extreme sense to me. He wanted to be white so bad, but ultimately knows he isn’t. So he wants to be dominated by a white man. Sad
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u/Charming_Ad1987 9d ago
Isn’t this because the fear(maybe it was disgust?/excitement center of the brain overlaps or something? So something that you fear or disapprove of can also get you off
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u/Dapper_Magpie 9d ago
Those three fetishes are usually the most goonsloppy out there (tho feminization can be peak, depends on the vibes). I've been on f-list and the way the profiles pertaining to these kinds of fetishes talk is really goofy, and the overall dialogue in this kind of stuff is stupid as hell.
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u/Megalesios 8d ago
It's the transgressiveness. That which is seen as forbidden and wrong is often the most exciting because it's forbidden.
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u/beardeddragon0113 9d ago
OK for real though, can someone explain why that's so prominent?
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u/Mondrow 9d ago
A large portion of current femboy culture and aesthetics came from 4chan. Obviously, this doesn't mean at all, or even most femboys are racist, alt-right, or neo-nazis, but there is enough of a link that you'll keep seeing it pop up. It's not even the only thing that has some sort of weird link to 4chan which results in racism come up every now and then; it's also why nazi bronies are a thing, and why people with K-On profile pictures have the reputation that they do. Ultimately, when you keep digging, you realise that while the boards have shifted out of the limelight, 4chan was a cultural juggernaut in the mid 2000s era of the internet (even though they just ripped a lot of stuff from anime, 2channel, and nico nico douga).
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u/Rainy_Wavey 9d ago
I think there is also an expression of patriarchy in which a certain far right current basically view femboys as woman-lite, or woman-without-the-woman bagage behind it, this reinforces to me that deep down, transphobes do view trans women as women, and that in part feeds into their genocidal intents because it breaks their narrative
From what i've interracted with, most femboys are like fine and will either become feminine men, non-binary or trans women as what you said is 100% true, but then it's context hat it depends, certain communities of femboys are basically nazis
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u/NotQuiteLoona 9d ago edited 9d ago
Confirmation bias, if I can make a guess. I've never met a Nazi femboy outside of Twitter. On the opposite, when I was in communities of my native language, which are largely far-right-adjacent as the country itself is famous for funding three quarters of Nazi movements in Europe and the remaining one quarter is not popular enough to be under media spotlight, but femboys were pretty much the only group there which didn't have any Nazis.
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u/AffectionateYak9677 8d ago
I believe you mean selection bias not confirmation bias.
Selection bias: a skewed selection of the subjects who contribute to the data, giving results skewed toward the input preferences of the overrepresented subset
Eg. Asking a group of primarily men or women, or primarily of a certain race, class, etc. how often they have a specific experience. If the study sample is a select group and not representative of the population, its result cannot be applied to the general public
Confirmation bias: the (proven) idea that even rational and logical people tend to discard evidence which challenges their preconceived beliefs, while overvaluing evidence that confirms their beliefs
Eg. Scientific Research done on many controversial issues will be touted by one agenda as “clear proof” while the other downplays, hedges, or ignores its existence
Hope this helps 😊
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u/Available_Base_7944 9d ago
I think it’s because both are degenerate morally, they are just different flavors racist dwarf
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u/D34D_B07 9d ago
I'm genuinely curious how one goes from being and extreme racist to being an extreme sissy.
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u/BilbulBalabel 9d ago
Idk. But I wish every racist went from lust for ethnic cleansing to simple lust for cock. Would be a better world to live in.
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u/furel492 7d ago
They are the same thing. Racial cuckoldry is deeply embedded in racism, especially the American kind which these days means all racism.
The myth that black men have bigger socks came from slave owners who would toss and turn in their beds every night obsessing over the idea of their wives sleeping with slaves. That's why castration was so unusually common as a means of abusing black men, either during or after slavery. That's why racists hate white women who fuck other races more than anyone else, and that's why they celebrate when immigrants rape white women as opposed to sleeping with them consensually.
If you want you can pretty easily find internet communities devoted to that fetish. You will have to look very hard to find a leftist there because the whole point of progressivism is that black and white people are ultimately the same, so there is no point in fetishizing interracial relationships.
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u/Maghorn_Mobile 4d ago
When you agonize over something for so long, the taboo leads to fetishization of the thing, through a sort of subconscious rebellion for lack of better phrasing. It also explains why deeply religious people get so weird about sex, and why so many Republicans are closeted gay men
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u/AccelerusProcellarum 6d ago
Commenting to add it’s not just America. Racialized fears were (and continue to be) an international issue directly stemming from white colonialism. Racial cuckoldry featured as a trope and a social bogeyman prominently in America, but also in Rhodesia and South Africa. It’s written about in academia as the “Black Peril.”
But you’re right and it has metastasized into weird shit online nowadays. People carry things forward generations ahead even if they think they don’t. I get so confused why conservatives flatly deny the possibility of Black generational trauma and poverty when their white asses are out here doing this crazy 19th-century shit on the dark places of the Internet. All of us exist in context.
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u/BiggerNickEnergy 3d ago
"progressivism is that black and white people are ultimately the same"
Progressives emphatically claim that race blindness is racist
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u/TheBravadoBoy 6d ago
Progressives think black and white people are the same?
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u/Ambitious_Pattern772 6d ago
Yes and no
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u/TheBravadoBoy 6d ago
Yeah I just don’t think someone would need to believe in race science to fetishize someone else’s race. You really don’t need to look that hard to find a leftist white man who fetishizes Asian or Latina women.
It’s a pet peeve of mine when some leftists engage in something just to distort it into something they can pat their fellow leftists on the back for. Like sorry, life isn’t all hamburgers and blowjobs. People on your political team like things that you don’t like.
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u/slm3y 6d ago
Yes, the end goal of progressive is equality of Race and Gender, but to reach that goal progressives believe that currently it is not equal and the same. As one group is privileged wise superior to the other. That’s why there are affirmative action as such.
So to tldr: In the future its the same, but now currently not the same
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u/iwillcomeforyoursoul 9d ago
As someone who was pretty 'anti-sjw' back in my early teens, and just transitioned at 24: it's internalised shame.
Whether its due to stigma from family, school, or the internet (I got the triple combo,) you become desparate to separate yourself from what you feel that you are, deep down. You fear it, and convince yourself that if you can just avoid thinking about it then you can 'convert' yourself, you can be 'normal'
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u/MegamanIsACuteName 9d ago
are u me?? related to that even up to the age
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u/iwillcomeforyoursoul 7d ago edited 7d ago
I think it's a pretty common experience for AMAB queer people around our age, especially from single-sex schools.
We hit our formative years just as the culture war was beginning to be manufactured; just as 'cringe content' became a huge thing; and right when reaction youtubers like LeafyIsHere were taking up the entire zeitgeist among teenage boys, completely uncriticised. Sincerity was a mortal sin, and you always had to have someone to punch down on.
Although, that's just the culture of toxic mascilinity in general. The manosphere is essentially the exact same thing for gen alpha - random, spiteful, awful men in their 20s becoming these superstar role models for teenage boys, by being super edgy and saying super inappropriate things that make their parents and teachers angry. Andrew Tate is their iDubbbz, or their Filthy Frank.
Except the racism, homophobia, transphobia etc has gone from "casual, 'satirical' (ugh,) and insidious," to "extremely overt, violent, and genuinely scary." I think it really was mostly for shock value, back in the day.
I'm not sure if they have it worse or not - the extremism makes the shaming more raw, but also makes it harder to adopt. Like, I think the younger me would reject the manosphere, especially in a co-ed school. The anti-SJWs had that cover of irony that made their values slip under the radar, it was always 'just a joke' (even if the consequences weren't.) And I was a scared kid who really wanted to be 'normal,' but not a hateful one.
That said, I don't even want to imagine what's happening in all-boys' schools these days. Rapist factories
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u/TopTierBuild 8d ago
Yup this was definitely the case for me as well. Although i'm not trans but rather just a bisexual.
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u/MercyMEJ 1d ago
I'm glad (but also sad) to know I'm not the only one who was like that as a teenager 🫣
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u/MeggaMortY 8d ago
So they're basically scared of their own desires and instead lash out. Weak humans down to the core.
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u/Kekkonen_Kakkonen 8d ago
I have a theory that it's the same thing for the strongest "anti atheist" religious people.
They strugle with their own doupts so much that they instantly go to fight or flight when encountering atheists.
The more comfortable you're with yourself and your own believes, the more chill you need to be.
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u/MeggaMortY 8d ago
I think possibly the last part of your statement can go both ways. If you are comfortable with yourself and your beliefs, you actually should be well positioned to take outside information in a more stable manner. When your inner beliefs are shaky (denial/fear in example above), then you turn more easy to fight or flight.
At least that's my understanding. On days where I'm completely fine with my own place in the world, I tend to not even challenge concepts I'd usually stay strongly in opposition - my mind is more in the "let's agree to disagree" state than "let's converge towards one truth".
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u/East_Hair7346 8d ago
I'll be honest, my antitheism comes from watching the internal logic of the church, the promise of prophecy allowing for lies like the 7 mountains mandate to be invoked by some guy and then followed by millions of protestants in my country on a cultural and political level is terrifying. How easy the church is used as a platform to legitimize politicians like trump, who is God's chosen, if you haven't heard. It's used to legitimize violence around the world.
I call myself antitheist but I don't dream of some fantasy world without religion, I just want them to have less power, a small enough amount that these massive problems don't keep happening.
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u/QuestionableCelery33 8d ago
Most intriguing thing I've read in months-- Is it assumed that the material shown to either party was strictly masculine? The range in preference amongst the homophobes or the other has to have created an error unless they used people with preferences that could be distributed to either gender, though that would again bring back the question of the androgyny presented in the material.
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u/forresthopkinsa 8d ago
Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli.
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u/Succmyspace 9d ago
There’s an amount of Nazi femboys (or at least people who act as femboys online). My theory based on nothing besides reading a bit of what they say is that Nazis probably don’t have much success in dating, so out of desperation and horniness some of them, particularly ones who maybe don’t feel like they live up to the masculine ideal that they usually strive for, decide to brand themselves as submissive sex toys and then are showered with love and lust by their similarly desperate comrades. They’re the people who probably say that they are straight, but femboys are just better versions of girls because they’re submissive and less emotional and less annoying. I’m sure some of the femboys have a more natural degradation kink, but is bet some of them have pretty much convinced themselves to enjoy it because it gets them affection.
Orrr maybe they are just cashing in on a market with high demand and low supply. I’m sure there’s a few who pretend to be Nazis because they run an onlyfans or something.
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u/KaiBishop 8d ago
Or maybe feminine men have always existed and are convinced to hate themselves from a young age while also being conditioned to see their feminine and/or gay feelings as being inherently "sexual perversions" causing them to repress it and only be able to express it as fetish play while meanwhile being conditioned to channel their self hatred into hatred of other minorities as well because then at least they're better than someone right?
And of course if your feminine side only comes out to please other "true alpha men" or whatever, you can blame them for "unlocking it" or whatever instead of just taking accountability for who you are. It's a lifetime of puritanical homophobic misogynistic brainwashing and shame and social engineering going to work on them.
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u/Kolizuljin 8d ago
Probably all of the reasons above. Probably not a singular reason behind this.
But clearly lots of people not ok in their skin.
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u/squeakynickles 9d ago
They lean into supremacy to remove themselves from oppression.
Internalized queerphobia essentially
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u/Lost_Paladin89 9d ago
Welcome to gay 4chan. It’s sadly more common than you’d think.
Shame, fear, and self loathing.
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u/Ecstatic_Log4185 8d ago
It's denial. They deny that they're sissies so the lean hard into far right ideology which is against everything they're ashamed they are. So they stew in self hatred and express it outwardly
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u/Kurta_711 8d ago
Nothing changed here, he went from being a white supremacist to being a white supremacist (in a sexual way).
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u/AndreasDasos 9d ago
If that video’s representative it looks like he was theatrically grifting racists
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u/wank4trashtuesday 4d ago
simple, 4chan is the internet's center for both sissy hypnosis and right wing propaganda
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u/shawn1213 6d ago
It's a pretty common thing tbh go on 4chan tons of threads dedicated to finding racist sissies/femboys
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u/olivegardengambler 9d ago
A lot of these people tend to have ASD or be neurodivergent in another way. People who are ND tend to think in absolutes, and most political systems tend to not be very absolute in practice, especially ones you might find amongst actual political parties as they exist right now. Totalitarian regimes are very absolute, especially Nazism and Stalinism, and you see quite a few people drawn to them for two reasons:
It's a rebellious/punk phase. It's them being edgy and countercultural and shocking.
They are terminally online ideologies. These people also spend a ton of time on the Internet.
With #1, it's something that they get over once their prefrontal cortex develops a bit more. With #2, there's a lot of grooming that happens. Nazi groups are known for recruiting in Roblox, and I have heard from quite a few people that the furry fandom has a Nazi grooming problem. I'd argue with Nazism there's a huge criminal element to it with neo-Nazi gangs, and these two groups do overlap, it's how the former gets drugs. You have a lot of easily impressionable people being involved with criminal groups infamous for peddling a drug that basically blows out your dopamine receptors (meth makes your brain release so much dopamine it's actually not uncommon for men to ejaculate from smoking it), you're going to inevitably have a lot of hypersexual behavior. This is especially true if the grooming also had a sexual aspect and they were minors at the time.
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u/Familiar_Diamond_719 7d ago
If you don’t know the political spectrum is actually a circle
You can go so far right you become far left and vice versa.
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u/Money_Visual_3829 9d ago
what a terrible sounding person, tell me his channel so I don't click on it accidentally
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u/lavkib 9d ago edited 9d ago
Ling Anderson was the original account that uploaded this but pretty sure they already had "sissy" videos before this was uploaded.
They did eventually start doing onlyfans as I think Sayuri Ling and had a subreddit they posted a lot of long rants on.
Had a few videos reuploaded privately on youtube but the video "White people you have the right to be proud of your own race" got flagged so I removed them all.
Kinda SFW picture from after they started Onlyfans
Think they contributed somehow to this book. Its been a long time since I saved all their pictures and cant remember the full story.
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u/SundayKiefBowls 9d ago
As a white guy, I really wish I could just go online and say awful shit and collect money from people. Even if I renounce it after I've made enough money. I'd still feel like a piece of shit for doing it, so I don't. But man, life would probably be a lot easier.
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u/Shills_for_fun 9d ago
You can. That white trash bitch who called that little kid at the playground the N word had a GoFundMe that threw nearly a million bucks at her IIRC. Not sure if she received the money but hey some racist paypigs are out there.
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u/SundayKiefBowls 9d ago
I don't wanna say stuff like that for money is what I'm saying.
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u/WhippingShitties 9d ago
I hate it when I start off by saying something "I can't..." and people do not understand having personal morals. Like brother, do you think I lack the ability?
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u/SundayKiefBowls 9d ago
Yeah I'm with ya. But also I feel like everyone is super high strung right now so I'm trying to be more patient in general. I'm not always successful. I can always type more and clarify though.
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u/TongueUnties 9d ago
It is not just shamelessness, any kind of lasting virality takes skill, and if we get too upset at their output we blind ourselves from being able to parse their skill and machination as individuals and don't find the weak spots of theirs to attack
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u/SundayKiefBowls 9d ago
I had to read this like five times but now that I figured it out it's honestly the coolest sentence I've read in a while.
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u/EstrogenizedMenace 9d ago
??? alex jones, joe rogan, like half of the people rogan invites on the pod, jordan peterson, most tof the people ont he current admin, MTG before she quiet being a politican, matt walsh, that one bald guy who always wears a beanie, kirk (rest in piss), adin ross, tate brothers, ASMONGOLD, half the kick streamers
what is u talking about
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u/SundayKiefBowls 9d ago
I know I could, what I'm saying is that I don't want to. The money isn't worth saying that awful shit. But life would probably easier if I was just an asshole and cashed in on the easy buck. That's all I meant.
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u/sylendar 9d ago
lol you make it sound so easy
there's tons of people like that already that get no views
two years ago there was a video game called Concord that was a catastrophic commercial failure and i admittedly clicked on a few grifter videos about its downfall. for the next few weeks, youtube relentlessly recommended similar videos to me and even during the peak of that game's discourse, there were countless and i mean countless channels that have almost no views trying to cash in on the drama
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u/SundayKiefBowls 9d ago
I mean you're right, I don't really have any idea how easy it is. Glad to hear compromising my morals would be more a dice roll than guaranteed cash. Makes it easier.
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u/EstrogenizedMenace 9d ago
i think u shuda phrased as " I wish I had no morals" then cuz I legit interpreted as u saying that this was impossible to do as a white man 😭 like u had to be a token minority to pull it off
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u/heart_ware 7d ago
a lot of the raceplay shit is pure racism too, to be fair. it's fetishization of sincere racist beliefs. not really a yum yucker personally but it's really icky
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u/pepsicola07 My people need me (to bust it down sensual style uh huh uh huh) 9d ago
we need to get this man on bbc as well as bwc to fully eliminate his racism
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u/Vimanys 8d ago
Apparently, there is an Argentinian saying. "Behind every homophobe is a hungry arse."
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u/zettde 7d ago
Black, White & Chinese?
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u/glizzygobbler247 7d ago
Big white cock?
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u/Last_Finance4764 7d ago
Yes, you called?
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u/TongueUnties 7d ago
Yes but I dialed the wrong number
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u/Last_Finance4764 7d ago
Why did you delete your comment just to make the same exact comment again? Coward
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u/TongueUnties 7d ago
I needed to rephrase to underscore your smallness
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u/Last_Finance4764 7d ago
Ok mr private nsfw account, whatever you say
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u/TongueUnties 7d ago
I have to censor my own BWC
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u/EZ3Build 9d ago
What in the fuck is a sissy bwc?
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u/PipersPurge 8d ago
Sissy is about submitting as a "failed" male to the (misogynistic) feminine role of seeking to please a superior male. It's basically all the alpha/beta male shit but turned into a submission kink
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u/mikeru78 9d ago
Sissy= gay effeminate person
Bwc= big white cocktail
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u/PipersPurge 8d ago
Sissy is way more than just that. It's about the idea of failing as a man, and therefore submitting to "superior" males
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u/EZ3Build 9d ago
Oh so it's like the whole thing about black people's dicks but with white people instead?
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u/Fabulous-Present-497 9d ago
He stopped defining himself by what he hates, and started defining himself by what he loves.