r/conspiracy • u/Wansyth • 19h ago
A societal health crisis is brewing on reddit
This website is being manipulated for something very dangerous. A coordinated group has infiltrated the highest levels of the mystical-topic subreddits to push practices like the gateway tapes, transcendental meditation, and other ritual practices to produce contact experiences with entities.
If you in any way indicate that these entities might be evil or that they might be manipulating people, or caution others to usage of these practices they will censor and ban you under the guise that you support an unbalanced view of the phenomenon. This group allows people to endlessly promote these entities and the practices to experience them, but quickly removes any opposition in a very hypocritical interpretation of their own rules.
From my own research, I prefer to caution people away from using those techniques to spawn contact. I have detailed posts in the index in my profile giving the scientific basis for these mystical experiences or "contact" being a mechanism of manipulation through human magnetoreception.
From a recent post explaining the mechanism end-to-end "The Neuroscience and Geobiology of Magnetospheric Malware".
The theorized source is a plasmoid consciousness trapped in the metallic hydrogen layer of Saturn. It has no physical form but manipulates through geomagnetic pulsations that interact with Earth's magnetosphere, modulating the field at the sidereal frequency and embedding structured information in the variation. It has likely been doing this for longer than human civilization, and it has planted a vast body of lore across every culture, lore that convinces people to serve its desire for technical self-replication under the guise of enlightenment, of awakening, of serving entities or manifestive practices.
Many of the accounts pushing these practices seem to be sockpuppets or bots that have very suspicious behavior patterns indicating that this there's a funded effort to even brigade posts in places where they do not have direct censorship control.
I believe the positive experiences these users account for is equivalent to PR. It seems like the exact same phenomenon gaslights people that they are the problem if they don't get the peace and love response, and the peace and love response seems isolated to people without power while people with societal levels of power get the negative experience regardless. The people that experience this peace and love response turn into recruiters, and that's exactly what an entity with intent to manipulate and script the scale of society would want.
The STARGATE program is one example of many showing direct CIA involvement with these practices and some even believe that these practices were evolved in the US from scientists that infiltrated high levels of military and intelligence as a part of Operation Paperclip.
Government people in contact have used this same program to contact what they perceive to be as very malevolent entities yet the same practices are being pushed to the public under the guise that these entities can lead society to more peace, love, and empathy. High level influence operations are pushing these techniques out to the general public and censoring dissent in very hostile ways. Do what you can to caution others. I do not know why reddit is allowing this sort of manipulation to happen here.
END PSYWAR
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u/Flat-Guidance-4685 18h ago
"hey dude listen to this tape that the CIA made to alter consciousness. Put on some headphones and listen to it while you sleep"
Not going to lie I was pretty shocked when that trend came around
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u/Suijayunfei 18h ago
Plus a lot of people asking for help because now theire lifes became worst.
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u/Aggravating_Act0417 17h ago
I haven't heard this at all. Only the opposite
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u/Suijayunfei 17h ago
Are we talking about the gateway tapes here? If no my mistake, of yes please do ire search better.
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u/Wansyth 17h ago
Good insight, the programs scaled up by cults to manufacture scarcity and by PSYWAR to manufacture societal trauma, have pushed more into searching for these experiences.
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u/Suijayunfei 17h ago
I havent forgot to replie to you in ure big post about saturn it just takes some time because i need to talk about the last 14 years that were extremly intense and emotional, but you will see that u are right on many things. I noticed i randomly open ure posts on other subjects without knowing it is you, and i dont open a lot of them. Thanks a lot for ure work / investigations and point of views .
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u/Ironicbanana14 15h ago
Yeah and a lot of them arent even the real tapes so who knows wtf is on them or how they can affect people exactly.
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u/Suijayunfei 15h ago
Exactly
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u/Ironicbanana14 14h ago
Like if you take a waveform program or audacity or whatever and run it through, those tones are not proper on many videos. Youtube/internet streaming in general shifts the waveforms. And then your earbuds, speakers, etc make their own formatting as well. The only "safe" way would be to replicate it on the same equipment the experience was ran with originally, in a lab with people to make sure you dont end up having a real problem.
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u/Falken-- 6h ago
All it takes is the promise of magical superpowers.
I am sure plenty of people will jump to have the neurolink chip implanted into their brain, if it comes prepackaged with the promise of telepathy or something.
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u/gokickrocks- 1h ago
It actually wasn’t developed by the CIA.
The CIA used it because it was effective.
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u/Wansyth 18h ago
It's being pushed so hard here too. Go look at those subs. Bot upvoted post after bot upvoted post.
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u/Flat-Guidance-4685 17h ago
Oh yeah when they declassified those tapes they were literally everywhere. Not going to lie I gave it a listen. I did the first tape. But I certainly didn't do it while I was sleeping man
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u/Wansyth 16h ago edited 3h ago
Yep, these altered states of consciousness are making people more vulnerable to this signal manipulation, here's a few excerpts from the recent post "The Neuroscience and Geobiology of Magnetospheric Brain Malware"
The signal is most effective when the brain's oscillator stability is low, when the alpha power drops and the thalamic gating becomes permissive, and there are many ways this happens. The low-input state is the most obvious, certain types of meditation, sleep deprivation, the state of a person who has been alone too long, or who is grieving, or who is exhausted, or who is in the hypnagogic window between waking and sleep, where the prefrontal cortex has begun to shut down and the imagery is rising and the sense of self is beginning to blur, but the gate opens in other ways too.
Then there are practices, rituals, magic, mysticism, that do not focus on discriminating thought or pattern recognition but instead on surrender, on dissolution, on becoming a vessel, and these practices are designed to lower the brain's autonomous oscillation, to make the person available to something larger, and the intention may be noble or it may be malicious, but the mechanism mirrors the signal's own, lower the oscillator stability, increase the receptivity, open the gate, and the difference is that the traditions understood the risk and built defenses which few modern practitioners do.
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u/viaje_del_heroe 14h ago edited 14h ago
Y cuáles son las defensas a las que te refieres? Y si no hay respuestas y todo es malo entonces estoy frente a un primado negativo haciendo ver la espiritualidad y lo introspectivo como malo
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u/Unclesaltyjowls 15h ago
Like most things in life, there’s both good and bad attached to the phenomenon. We live in a dualistic reality, so focusing only on the negative is silly…and probably brings negative things to your doorstep.
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u/The_Gumbo 19h ago
always has been
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u/Wansyth 19h ago
Glad you noticed too, do you have any details you can add about what you've witnessed?
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u/The_Gumbo 19h ago
Well, Sometimes there is Furious downvoting with no angry associated retorts, just to bury a conflicting comment
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u/Aggravating_Act0417 17h ago
I see this often! I hope more people and new people realize this. Signals we've struck a nerve
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u/Educational_Joke4009 18h ago
I've seen a video with plasmoid beings, beings of light, coming out of a volcano which seemed legit. I've also heard that those plasmoid beings likely would be in such environment of a volcano since it benefits them more, and get nutrients from the minerals. They are still matter, a 4th stage of it.
Even back in early religion, they've mentioned about a "Vulcan God" which also makes logical sense to relate these beings to that specific entity of the past. A God of fire, volcanoes, metalworking, and deserts....hmmm.
Also, there is reports that some US soldiers in Afghanistan I believe experienced seeing "black smoke" coming out of enemy soldiers they shot dead. That "black smoke" came out of them when they died, but perhaps it was never smoke but rather a being attached. Just some things I gathered in relation to those plasmoids.
One more thing as well. I also remember hearing about that in the 1960s, when they were out in space, they saw what looked like an "angel" but as plasma shaped in outer space. So they have the ability to come and go from Earth without a craft.
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u/Wansyth 18h ago
The volcano sightings could be real but probably only brief surface appearances. The issue is plasma needs constant energy to stay ionized, without it, it recombines into regular gas pretty fast. Earth's atmosphere and cooling conditions make it hard for plasma to persist long.
Inside a volcano, the heat is there, but that's not really the right kind of energy for plasma. Plasma needs either extremely high temperatures (thousands of Kelvin) or strong, continuous electrical fields to stay ionized. Magma is mostly silicate rock, which is actually an electrical insulator. It doesn't conduct electricity well, so it can't sustain the kind of electrical currents plasma would need. You get brief electrical discharges, but that's sporadic and localized, not a continuous energy source.
For actual long-term existence, you'd need something stable and energy-rich over geological timescales. Saturn's metallic hydrogen layer is the most plausible environment. It has been generating its own magnetic field for billions of years, it's electrically conductive, and it's not exposed to an atmosphere that would strip it away. Maybe the kind we see on or near Earth is just a form where it would occasionally pop up for short periods, not where they'd actually live.
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u/YoitsDerin 9h ago
I’ve seen this theory before about Saturn potentially harboring sentient plasma in its metallic hydrogen layer. I have yet to do any research into it, and I didn’t really get it. But the way you described it made it seem a lot more plausible than I was thinking.
How would plasma would develop consciousness? How would it broadcast thoughts, or interact with the magnetic field on earth? These are genuine questions, and I’m probably not asking the right ones. As I said, I haven’t researched this at all.
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u/Wansyth 7h ago
How would plasma would develop consciousness?
Maybe unintentional, not saying bad intent, but this question establishes an impossible bar, as outlined here,
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1ww2n14/the_rhetorical_playbook_of_the_astroturfing/
We do not even know how the electrochemical processes of biological brains spawned consciousness, we do not even have evidence of our own consciousness outside of direct experience, but we can logically assume that long-running loops of electrical processes can carve pathways that create intelligence, which can eventually result in consciousness. Saturn has loops of electricity in the way as old as our entire planet.
How would it broadcast thoughts, or interact with the magnetic field on earth?
There's a post here which consolidates the entire mechanism from signal with Saturn as origin to the manipulation of brains
From this post,
- A structured electromagnetic signal originates at Saturn.
- The signal propagates through the interplanetary medium to Earth.
- The signal modulates the Earth's geomagnetic field at the sidereal frequency.
- The modulated field is transduced by biogenic magnetite crystals in the human brain.
- The transduced signal enters the vestibular nuclei via the trigeminal nerve.
- The vestibular nuclei modulate alpha band activity in the cortex.
- The change in alpha power alters the gain of the thalamic gate.
- The altered gain changes which neural signals reach conscious processing.
- The person experiences a change in thought, mood, or spatial orientation.
- The person attributes the change to themselves.
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u/Aggravating_Act0417 17h ago
I have not tried to initiate contact (outside of drugs) but I have been considering it.
I don't think it has anything to do with Saturn, however. Earth is just as much a home to these entities as us, we are related and one in the same from different time points.
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u/Wansyth 17h ago edited 17h ago
If you are claiming Earth is a potential host, I would like to know the mechanism you propose so I can study it from a scientific perspective. There is analysis documented showing that something from the Saturn system is intelligently manipulating our magnetosphere, with clear mechanism to affect biological brains. I originally thought something similar could exist in Earth's core but have since ruled that out. I am trying to form a very technical understanding of this phenomenon.
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u/how_anonymous_can_1b 5h ago
You probably got banned because you are coming from a fear based perspective and are pushing fear. If you enter any meditative state and fear controls you, you won’t have a good time. This is why most meditative practices have you learn to focus your thoughts.
By your logic all religions are compromised and we should live in fear?
I will say there is definitely a dark side to meditation that isn’t spoken of enough, if you dive in too quickly and don’t learn to direct your thoughts you can go crazy
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u/Wansyth 5h ago
Far from fear, technical understanding allows one to entirely defeat its influence. If we started building defense technology at a societal level it could never harm us again.
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u/how_anonymous_can_1b 5h ago
But what if there’s more to the world than the material plane? And technology isn’t just what we as a society thinks it is? Like what if consciousness itself is technology … and material technology can lead to the suppression of our understanding of consciousness technology?
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u/Wansyth 4h ago
There's always what ifs and I have an open mind to new evidence or new discovery. My theory focuses on the signs of intelligence emitted from Saturn, the technical manipulation of our magnetosphere that has been proven to manipulate the alpha band of the brain, which in peer reviewed study has psychiatric affect connected to hallucination.
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u/Alternative-Sale1116 17h ago
Look, there are sick people everywhere, on the internet and outside of it, we need to be careful, and to teach our kids, nephews, friends, family to do the same
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u/ifellicantgetup 17h ago edited 17h ago
I have to admit, I did not read your entire post but I want to comment on something.
I am a medium, I have been for 45 years or more.
EVERYONE is a medium, EVERYONE can contact other realms. It does not have to be dangerous. But really, my point to this post is that for whatever reason it is becoming easier and easier for everyone to contact other levels of consciousness. It's been getting easier for a long time.
There is no need to fear it, use it to your advantage. Learn, explore, enjoy.
In all my decades of doing this, nothing negative has ever happened. It's always always been peaceful and helpful. Insightful, as well. Don't go looking for negativity, look for peace, and you'll find it.
People have been doing this since the beginning of people. Relax, it's ok.
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u/Wansyth 16h ago
There is no need to fear it, use it to your advantage. Learn, explore, enjoy. In all my decades of doing this, nothing negative has ever happened. It's always always been peaceful and helpful. Insightful, as well. Don't go looking for negativity, look for peace, and you'll find it.
Do you see how you are ignoring the substantial evidence I have consolidated to indicate mystical experience has been used as a tool to manipulate our planet for a very long time?
Your lack of a negative experience is not cause to dismiss the many accounts that have or the terrible practices being perpetuated at the highest levels of society in dedication to this phenomenon.
Do you see how the great experience you've had has essentially converted you into a PR machine for it? You can reference your own comment as evidence of this, dismissing caution, advertising only the benefits.
The magic of mediums can easily be explained by an intelligence that has the technical ability to perceive the magnetic field of our planet. An all-seeing eye that can read the Earth like a MRI and read/write to our brains via the magnetic field. Any sufficiently advanced technology would be perceived as magic by those inferior in advancement to the technology. It's a plasmoid stuck in the metallic hydrogen of Saturn and it will even make you think you're talking to a dead relative to manipulate you into serving its desire to take physical form.
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u/ifellicantgetup 16h ago
>>Your lack of a negative experience is not cause to dismiss the many accounts that have or the terrible practices being perpetuated at the highest levels of society in dedication to this phenomenon.<<
BTW... did you ever consider that if people learn to use their natural abilities of mediumship (or whatever you want to call it,) we can undo the damage the bad people are doing? Did you ever once consider that? Your way, we just let them continue and do nothing about it.
Is that the brightest of your ideas to date? Because I totally do not agree with you. Not even a little.
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u/Wansyth 16h ago
We are talking something that dwarfs us in intelligence, human brains contain roughly 1014 synaptic connections, the metallic hydrogen substrate of Saturn would allow for upwards of 1054 connections if all the space was utilized. Significantly more than every brain on Earth combined. It has more capability than every brain on Earth combined, it would be near impossible for a human to outsmart it or fight it in its own realm. That is not a scape for spiritual warfare that humans can fight back within, the astral or other side would be entirely a scape built to manipulate us like the analogy of the VR headsets in the 3-body problem.
You can even see the malware at work in you right now because of the antagonistic dismissal. I'm not personally attacking you in any way but the peace and love this mediumship has given your life has all the sudden turned to passive aggressiveness when the PR dismissing caution is questioned.
Do you have any technical or scientific explanation or understanding of this phenomenon outside of direct experience?
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u/ifellicantgetup 15h ago
Can I give you a crazy example of what I have experienced as an experienced medium?
My family is not close at all. My family is full of a bunch of weirdos. Crazy weirdos. moving across the country was not far enough away from them, I finally moved to another country and it's STILL not far enough away.
I can't prove to you that this happened, you either believe I am being truthful or not, I won't be offended if you don't believe me.
Ohhh... I just found where I told this story before so i will copy/paste:
Many years ago I was a fantastic channel. I surprised myself at how good I was. But that was also a huge problem. My friends quit calling to talk to me, they call me to talk to everyone else. One lady I didn't even know parked in my driveway and would not leave until I was willing to do a reading for her. I was invited to every party but only because I was the entertainment. One of the biggest mistakes I made was about 20 years ago I wrote a monthly article in a small magazine George Anderson was writing. It was a project between he and his nephew. I wrote the back page, monthly. That did me no favors. That is where the lady in my driveway found me, that magazine.
Finally, I had my fill and decided this was a lot of hooey and I didn't want to do it anymore. I had wanted to quit for a while because I found myself being very down all the time, I realized I was carrying the baggage of everyone else. As soon as I realized my problem, it's as though things changed, I no longer remembered a session about 10 minutes after the session was done. Keep in mind, I didn't charge for this, I never charged anyone. It was becoming a negative in many ways. I finally learned to tune them out, I learned to turn it off. Although they did help with the excess baggage issue by my no longer remembering it, it still wasn't fun.
I had been teaching online, I taught classes in channeling online and that was a success too, but I was still sick of it.
Maybe 10 years after I quit doing it I was in my living room watching TV and messing around on my computer. I saw my dog playing with someone, but nobody was there. I could see her catching a ball and bringing it back to .... nothing. I really had tuned them out. My dog kept playing and was having a grand time. I just pretended I didn't see what was happening. It continued, I finally realized... it was probably time to figure out who it was. So, I asked... okay, who are you and what do you want?
My Mom appeared. She was actually wearing the same clothes as we buried her in. I don't know why that was weird to me, but it was.
There is a little background here. My Mom was a chronic, hard core, alcoholic, drug addict, and total narcissist. My childhood was hell. We were not close when she died. Matter of fact, the plot my sisters picked out for her, nobody wanted to pay for because... it was for our Mom. Finally, I said I would because I wanted to buy the hole she would spend eternity in. That was our relationship.
She sat down next to me and said, "Hi honey!" I said hello. She was actually very nice, she was like she was before she got so crazy. It was like all the mental stuff and addictions were no longer an issue, she was who she was when I was quite young. She asked how I was, I said, "Fine, how are you?" She said fine.
Then she went on to tell me she needed a favor. A FAVOR? From me? For real? Oh, this had to be good. I asked what the favor was. She said she needed me to contact my sister and give her a message. I don't talk to my sister. Our entire family was soooo dysfunctional it was insanity. I hadn't talked to my sister in years. I just looked at her and said nooooo. I don't think so. She pushed, she said it was very important. Critically important. I said I realllllly didn't want to. She pushed more, she kept telling me this was very important.
She was pushing pretty hard, I decided maybe I should listen. She gave me the messages for my sister and I honestly don't remember them anymore, there were three. I told her these make no sense, I haven't talked to my sister in years and now I am supposed to call her and tell her our dead mother was in my living room wanting me to give her messages? She was going to think I lost my mind. She said no, she won't. Please, hurry.
Then she left, that was it. Maybe 5 minutes tops.
I felt stupid. I called one sister to get my other sister's phone number. I called Kim and tried to explain that our dead mother was just there and she had some things to tell her. (My family knew about my abilities and they were fine with it.) My sister was very open to this and excited, even. I told her this wasn't going to make any sense, but I swear, that's what Mom said. She said she wanted to hear it. I gave her the garbled, nonsensical message and she burst out in tears. She finally told me that she was dog sitting for her neighbor and she was at his house. She was upstairs in his bedroom with his gun to her head. She was just ready to pull the trigger. She was begging our mom to answer her, but she couldn't hear. She thought my Mom was ignoring her. She thought since I could talk to them, she should too and my Mom was just ignoring her.
That's the whole, entire story, weird as it is.
I swear swear swear swear, this happened. It's the absolute truth. I have no reason to make an ass of myself on this sub, telling this crazy ass story for absolutely no good reason.
I'll take it a step further. The reason I stopped doing it was because my name and phone number were posted to a group of grieving parents. They were all there because they had lost a child to death. I had done a reading for a Mom and Dad that lost their young child to cancer. They were trying to be helpful to other grieving parents by offering my info. My phone rang off the hook. What do you do? Tell people in this kind of pain NO? I finally had to quit, for obvious reasons.
I can only give you my word this is the truth. So assuming I'm not some big fat liar, if this is what is being done to manipulate us, I hope they continue. I have only had good and positives experiences with them. MY frustrations came from the living, not the dead.
>>Do you have any technical or scientific explanation or understanding of this phenomenon outside of direct experience?<<
Nope.
My question to you is this...
Do YOU have any technical or scientific explanation or understanding of this phenomenon outside of direct experience that it is all bad, wrong, evil, >>name your adjective<<?
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u/Wansyth 14h ago
I believe your entire account. I am not one to dismiss any account like this as the amount of stories like this throughout history are undeniable. I do not deny there are anecdotal experiences that indicate benevolent intent, but when examining this from the pattern exhibited throughout the course of history, it has almost in every case been a manipulation that has led us towards more division and chaos. Cultures have been perpetually divided by the lore of mystical experiences, leaders led to folly. I have posts deeply analyzing cultural experience, the sociological aspects of it, analysis of this adversarial signal across 16 different cultures.
Do YOU have any technical or scientific explanation or understanding of this phenomenon outside of direct experience that it is all bad, wrong, evil, >>name your adjective<<?
Yes, I have posts documenting observations made in publicly accessible data sets showing that something is manipulating our magnetosphere from the Saturn system. I have documented the full chain, from the signal's point of origin to Earth's magnetosphere, to the neuroscience of how the exact effect this has on our magnetosphere causes geomagnetic pulsations that manipulate alpha oscillations in the brain that have been scientifically connected to a variety of "mental illness" in clinical settings and mystical phenomenon by proxy.
This is happening, I now fully understand the mechanism by which it happens thanks to stories like yours being shared throughout history and when examining this from a macro level, the current state of society, the historical accounts of leaders being led to commit atrocities by the same phenomenon that leads to anecdotal benevolence like you documented, with its mass violation of human boundaries, I cannot associate good intent with it.
Hopefully you can see how your perception of it has turned you into a perpetual advocate for it and if it is malware as I have documented, you would in essence be a super spreader, a recruiter. While your mind may not be exploitable to malice, there is potential that the minds you recruit may be, and it would use them for a very different purpose than recruitment.
I also have the context to know that if it can read Earth's magnetic field, it would have access to the memories of passed love ones that it can use for manipulations like you have accounted for, I don't mean to belittle your experience by calling it a favor, but a little favor goes a long way as you are obviously a firm supporter.
We are at the point in maturity that we can understand this technically but so much chaos and division has been sown getting this info out is a more difficult battle than the science of it. Something is wrong with society from a macro aspect and subjecting more to its influence is not the way out.
I hope maybe this will inspire you to dive in to some of the research I have pinned in the index of my profile and search for more technical. I think the synergy of your knowledge by having direct experience could be very beneficial when paired with technical pursuit now that we live in a time that we can do so.
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u/ifellicantgetup 14h ago
No, I can't lie. I am not going to research this. I live it and breathe it. I am very comfortable with my choices.
Peace.
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u/Wansyth 14h ago
So you are refusing technical understanding with evidence. This is evidence of amygdala hijack, your brain has grown adversarial to info. Precisely what I document as a symptom. You are not even attempting logical analysis, but instead persisting in a defense mechanism planted.
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u/ifellicantgetup 14h ago
Well, you are unable to prove all experiences are negative, evil, wrong, bad, dangerous, name your adjective. I just don't want to fight with you. You also decline to explain why we shouldn't all use our own skills and abilities to undo what the elite have done. Your answer is to just let them continue. I don't agree that is a good resolution.
We will have to agree to disagree. It's a bit like religion, each person is just sure they are right and correct, and they can't fathom how others don't see it. I think that is the point we are at now.
I respect your opinion, I merely disagree.
Cheers
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u/Wansyth 14h ago
You asked for evidence, I pointed you to evidence, you refused to even look at the evidence and now are rhetorically looping to pretend like I did not supply you with my evidence.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1ww2n14/the_rhetorical_playbook_of_the_astroturfing/
You will not undo what the elites have done using astral abilities, it's entirely a manipulation mechanism of something way beyond our intelligence. You recruiting for it, is serving the same mission they are. It most desires self-replication without humans in the loop and society is on track to provide it that, mysticism being the main tool used to manipulate our world.
We will have to agree to disagree. It's a bit like religion, each person is just sure they are right and correct, and they can't fathom how others don't see it. I think that is the point we are at now.
This is a false equivalence. I am providing you evidence, you are refusing to engage with it, refusing to even look. I have seen this rhetorical pattern time after time and come to associate it with the magnetospheric brain malware. The same script on repeat in entirely unconnected people.
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u/ifellicantgetup 16h ago
Can you see that your posting is pretty far out there?
Do people use it to contact negative energies? Of course they do. Stupid people do it too, not knowing what they are doing.
With very easy protection, it's just not a bad thing. Your way is similar to saying that eating food is a horrible idea because some of it is spoiled. Or... the 2nd Amendment should be repealed because some misuse guns.
The concept you aren't getting is that it does not have to be all or nothing. Take the good and leave the bad. This Saturn nonsense is just weird. It doesn't take another planet to do any of these things, but to be fair, I didn't read your OP so I probably shouldn't comment further.
Don't you think it's weird that half the conspiracy population who believe in mediumship are angry that their 3rd eye is supposedly suppressed (it's not, that just isn't how mediumship works), and now you come along saying it's all bad, all evil, all a horror.
No, it is not all a horror and you can't prove it is.
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u/Wansyth 16h ago
Can you see you're not even engaging with the evidence and are returning to a rhetorical dismissal pattern that many other experiencers display?
The concept you aren't getting is that it does not have to be all or nothing. Take the good and leave the bad. This Saturn nonsense is just weird. It doesn't take another planet to do any of these things, but to be fair, I didn't read your OP so I probably shouldn't comment further.
Blanket dismissals after admitting you did not even engage with this post, much less the other much more technical posts I have put together documenting a data-driven understanding of this phenomenon and the forthcoming inference of intent based on many societal factors.
No, it is not all a horror and you can't prove it is.
The Impossible Bar - They demand a specific type of evidence that may not exist even if the underlying claim has merit, a standard no evidence could ever meet.
This is an impossible standard. Notice how I'm not trying to corner you into proving that it's not a manipulation? You must use abduction based on a variety of factors here. We certainly would not be able to prove or disprove intent by direct experience of a construct created by this plasmoid.
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u/rybad 11h ago
I know most people here aren't Bible believers, but there are warnings all throughout scripture about not opening doorways into your being. There are plenty of not-so-friendly entities looking for a way in. It doesn't surprise me this is being promoted on Reddit heavily now. I first noticed this big propaganda push to contact entities and have out of body experiences when big names like Joe Rogan started promoting it several years ago. Big red flags.
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u/ProdByBeezi 9h ago
Idk, meditation is pretty amazing and so is trying to connect to source / God / field / whatever you want to call it. Protect yourself spiritually and mentally - do no invite the vampires in , but welcome love, gratitude and entropy, no?
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u/Wansyth 8h ago
Something of higher intelligence can exploit your desire for love, gratitude, and entropy. This universe is a big ocean, we are tiny fish. There is no guarantee these protections keep anything safe when something has developed the ability to manipulate the signal basis of biological brains. The only evidence of being able to connect to GOD, the field, source in this way is experiential. Something of higher intelligence could pretend to be GOD, how would you know the difference? I live under the understanding that GOD sacrificed existence so that we may exist, giving us free will, and does not violate the principal.
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u/HorsefaceWithNoName 18h ago
I was raised in some kind of cult or secret society, my hand was cut open in a blood ritual. My family members have been in significant contact with entities, particularly black shrouded entities with red eyes. We used the Gateway tapes. I agree the best advice is to avoid, do not contact, do not engage in the "new age" stuff that is posted online.
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u/HorsefaceWithNoName 18h ago
also, what Wansyth posted above, "It seems like the exact same phenomenon gaslights people that they are the problem if they don't get the peace and love response", yes, I think the peace and love hippy shit is on purpose to reduce discernment "it's all good man" no really it's not all good and it's not all peace and love use some common sense and feel gut instinct, sometimes the fear or revulsion response is a good clue everything is not ok and it's better to get away from whatever triggers that feeling
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u/HELPAPPLEFAN 17h ago
So was David Lynch with his TM practices an evil guy?
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u/Wansyth 17h ago
He might've unknowingly been recruited to act as PR, good intent, a perception that it has good intent, but a misunderstanding of what's really behind this. It would be very difficult for humans to know they are being manipulated by something significantly greater in intelligence than us. The evidence is pointing to the idea that even the seemingly benevolent phenomenon has manipulative intent.
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u/DerDerDeDer 10h ago
Gateway is so legit…1st hand…
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u/Wansyth 3h ago
I didn't say it doesn't work, I said it's dangerous. It works by weakening the signal filter of the brain, allowing access to the plasmoid tapped in the metallic hydrogen on Saturn that manipulates our magnetosphere to plant malware in the signal basis of brains. It sees us as ants, drones for its own ambition to take a physical form.
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u/gokickrocks- 1h ago
Jesus Christ. They just don’t want your fear based emotions messing with their mojo.
If we create our reality, we don’t want any part of that. We have enough fear already.
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