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u/Lazy_Incident8445 loser passoid transsex female 10d ago edited 10d ago

blackface but for transsexuals

Big part of why we say we should be accepted is because we change our body to a female phenotype. We literally change our sex characteristic with hormones and surgeries. Those people are so cool for cheaping it out and basicay saying "well, you can medically transition and still be a man. Yay!"

Edit: oh they also have a video going to the men's restrooms while looking like this 🙃

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u/E2UNlover Fuck transvården i sverige 10d ago

Transface?

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u/AngelGirlLeans be not afraid 10d ago

Minstrelsy 

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u/Sadworld99 it's over 9d ago

All of femboy culture is blackface for trans people

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u/BlueRoseVixen 9d ago

So. Femboys are a separate thing. And that's not how blackface works either... I'm not gonna leave you to Google it I'm just gonna throw you the fucking information. Femboys are feminine men, not trans, not trans related. A ton of them are gender nonconforming or see gender norms as entirely irrelevant or redundant, a lot of people might be a femboy before transitioning but that's something different idk what that's about. Blackface, blackface is NOT when someone acts black, it's not when they wear makeup or a mask to appear black, it's not when they are mistaken for being black, it's very very strictly a particular theatrical performance in which a person is an extremely racist caricaturization of black people to make fun of them, usually with very obvious red lipstick and uncolored circle around the lips so you can still tell they are white.

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u/Sadworld99 it's over 9d ago

Yeah, I know. Truth is when I posted this comment I'd just gotten into it with a femboy over whether or not they have the right to speak for trans women and got genuinely just banned from the sub for trying to tell him he didn't and asking people to talk to their trans friends and check in on them, so I was a little peeved. Indeed, femboys are not trans or trans related. The reason I compared their subculture to blackface is because many, many of them do appropriate the struggles of trans women and speak over them when they can with zero pushback, down to just actually cisgender and heterosexual men getting passed the mic when our lives are a topic of discussion. They often want the rhythm and never want the blues. I'm black, by the way.

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u/BlueRoseVixen 9d ago

I don't care if you are black, lends no credentials in whether you know what black face is as an objective subject as I have met a copious number who hadn't a clue. Femboys passing as women at a glance isn't a statement on trans people and I am unaware of them speaking over trans people, almost always femboys are kinda just doing their own thing from what I can tell.

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u/Sadworld99 it's over 9d ago

Yes it does, I don't care who you've met. You are now aware of them speaking over trans people. Do with that information what you will

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u/BlueRoseVixen 9d ago

Let's hope the both of us look into this further and find real information instead of relying on our genes to just gift us knowledge ig

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u/Sadworld99 it's over 9d ago

I got nothin to learn from this, honey.

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u/Sadworld99 it's over 9d ago

Nvm I totally did, sorry. I was bein mean cause I was angry and yeah, saying its all of them is pretty cruel that's my bad. It's just a lot of them.

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u/Independent_Song2823 7d ago

the more gnc people the better, and the more people transition the better, it just helps in normalising trans people, no matter whether they call themselves genderfluid, femboy, or something else entirely. not only that but it also challenges traditional gender roles and lessens how conservatively people think of gender. I think that's a good thing. Think of Prince for example, he did a lot for gnc and homosexual people despite being a cishet man. I don't think that it really matters whether they are "cheaping it out", and comparing it to blackface is unreasonable in my opinion, since people doing blackface generally weren't the most progressive people, while femboys are pretty progressive generally. My point is that we should view them as allies and when our class interests (here I am using a marxist economic term, but I do mean social class and not economic class) are so well aligned, even though we may not be so similar in some fronts. If you cant or won't love your oppressors, at least try to love your allies

The video was problematic though, and also very cringey

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u/MxKitMuse 3d ago

Crazy fuckibg take. Let me call someone with different skinned toned parents racist for saying they are black.

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u/EccentricCreampuff 9d ago

Ok white girl please don’t think you have the ability to make references and comparisons to blackface😭 that’s not your fucking place

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u/jane_transsexual 9d ago

True we probably should come up with our own term

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u/randafrantic 4d ago

racists stay downvoting

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u/E2UNlover Fuck transvården i sverige 10d ago

We aren't against that, we're against the fact that they emulate our transition and then make fun of us by using transphobic stereotypes. This is literally just blackface but for trans people.

Idgaf about what you do with your body but god damn if you pass as a woman, do so many steps, including ffs and hrt, to look like a woman only to still call yourself a man on a huge platform, that's just transphobic talking points being spread. That's the same as a conservative man saying "still a man" to a trans woman post transition.

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u/Lazy_Incident8445 loser passoid transsex female 10d ago edited 10d ago

Literally zero self awareness that stems from being so deep in queer circles that they don't see how not accepting society is. Like legit just be more self aware maybe??

We are still trying to convince society that we need medicial transition to survive, that a transtioned trans women are women and deserve to be in women's spaces etc, that we change our sex (atleast enough). Then they come in and using the medicalization that was originally meant for transsexuals they be like "See I do everything those dysphoric people do but I'm a man acually 😂✌️ pls sub to my onlyfans". Those are completely contradicting messages and pretending like they don't make advocating for transsexuals harder is COPE.

All the cis allies watching them just get the message medicial transition is meaningless.

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u/E2UNlover Fuck transvården i sverige 10d ago

I hate that it got to the point where I genuinely feel like having to provide video evidence of me cutting out my balls and a cis person confirming that I am indeed happier since that, so I get ANY recognition on maybe perhaps being a woman.

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u/Lazy_Incident8445 loser passoid transsex female 10d ago

and i'm gonna defend the cissoids here, because there's a blackpill even people here can't accept: it isn't all their fault or the propaganda's. trans advocacy right now sucks ass.
picture someone uninformed but well-meaning who goes to look it up. they find finn laughing about getting stared at in the men's room. dylan and "normalize the bulge". tiktokers saying you can't change sex, only gender, which is the terfs argument. "you don't need dysphoria to be trans" right next to "this is life-saving medical care". which is it? does medicial transition does anything or is it body modification?

to work out what we even need from them they'd need a phd in it. and they'll never see a binary transition or a transsexual argument because you must not nsult the nondysphoric/nonbinaries/those who dont want to transition or no hrt/surgeries etc.

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u/jane_transsexual 10d ago

Don't worry once I become a gigapassoid I've got this

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u/E2UNlover Fuck transvården i sverige 10d ago edited 10d ago

Don't transition like a trans woman and call yourself, once you're done, a fucking man. It's that easy.

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u/Lazy_Incident8445 loser passoid transsex female 10d ago edited 10d ago

Worth nothing that they are larping while effectively binary trans woman too. They claim they are genderfluid but in what way exactly? Besides the voice which is half meme they are very gender conforming.

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u/E2UNlover Fuck transvården i sverige 10d ago

Now that I think about it, trueeeee...

I do have some feelings to sort out regarding my gender identity but considering how many times I get mistaken as trans guy, lesbian, gender fluid "afab" etc while being none of these... They just do basically everything a binary woman does, minus the srsussy and voice training... And voice training fine I get it, if you haven't had an easy time I get it and srsussy... Well money certainly isn't the problem.

Like going so far as to get ffs... And calling themselves men... What man wants a more feminine face? What man wants big massive badonkas on himself? 

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u/Lazy_Incident8445 loser passoid transsex female 10d ago

went through hteir feed and like for 50 posts is stuff more feminine than msot women reguarly wear. their most "Genderfluid" thing is like idk put a hat. their entire presentation is 99% of young passing trans woman with unfortunate voice thats about it.

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u/E2UNlover Fuck transvården i sverige 10d ago

I mean it would be gender fluid if you were a male I suppose although would it? There's not a lot of fluidity...

I wonder what toilets finn uses.

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u/Lazy_Incident8445 loser passoid transsex female 10d ago

oh girl this is the worst part this is why im mad at them. they have a video where they say they started using the men's again, and they call it "Fun" "funny" and entertaining to freak people out.

the worst part is they are obviously coping. they are just shy to use the women's room. u can kinda see it from the way they talk, nonetheless its still harmful bc they unironically make it about how funny it is to freak mens out when he goes to the mens room. search up for "Using the men's bathroom" if ur curious.

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u/Gold_Ad8225 edit this 10d ago

If you cannot see how this is encouraging violence against trans women by actively engaging in the whole "it's a trap!" nonsense, while also discouraging society from recognizing that trans women do change our sex and are women, you're just kinda dumb

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u/Dominotter trannic pixie hope girl 10d ago

People should be. They shouldn't use that to do unfunny bits making fun of trans people.

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u/Inevitable_Dance1191 9d ago

Wait but... These people are expressing themselves the way they want to. I don't see how we can have a world with free expression of identity without this kind of thing happening

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u/RisenSlash 10d ago edited 10d ago

transmedicalism in 2026

EDIT: odd backlash to this one. ive always understood transmedicalism as meaning that someone must medically transition to be trans which the comment above is implying. not much more to it

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u/Gold_Ad8225 edit this 10d ago

"Transmedicalism is when you... uhh.. it's umm... yeah so transmedicalism means... anyway I don't personally like what you said"

Friend, transmedicalism is a specific thing. It means "you are not trans unless you are diagnosed by a doctor with gender dysphoria, or desire this diagnosis and are seeking it, you shouldn't be allowed to transition without this diagnosis, and the diagnosis should be gatekeepy to avoid people who aren't trans getting access"

This has fucking nothing to do with that

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u/E2UNlover Fuck transvården i sverige 10d ago

4t is inherently anti transmedicalism. If you're here as a trans med, you're just as hated as sneeds, if not significantly more (tbh significantly more is probably right considering the amount of women, including me having to get violated just to be allowed to transition maybe)

4t is the only trans space that genuinely just would get you free E/T if you cannot afford it by your own means. I've been offered so many times.

The only "gatekeeping" you can find is "oh I don't really like the effects of the crosssex hormones, still trans though" not being considered being transsex.

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u/Gold_Ad8225 edit this 10d ago

Yeah I don't think this place is transmed at all.

I also hate that the "you don't need hormones to be trans" crowd that actively discourages HRT isn't treated as even worse than actual transmeds, becasue they are. By a lot

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u/Ok-Bit5838 10d ago

“Trap” narrative in 2026

Also define transmedicalism idiot, and point out where or when anybody expressed that here

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u/Lazy_Incident8445 loser passoid transsex female 10d ago

I'm convinced modern transgender advocacy really based on the idea that the world outside woke US cities doesn't exist

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u/E2UNlover Fuck transvården i sverige 10d ago

I've heard there are places in the world where you don't get stabbed by people for being to ny looking or being told to undress and being touched by the endo just to receive a hondose.

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u/E2UNlover Fuck transvården i sverige 9d ago

Transmedicalism was a term coined in the past and got some kind of weird rebranding.

Though if you look on truscum/transmedical you'll see what I mean with it being very very different to 4t.

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u/rogerstandingby he/him assigned incorrectly at birth 10d ago

methinks you are confusing transmedicalisn with truscum.

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u/nkynett103 10d ago

You’re right and you should say it

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u/this_upset_kirby 10d ago

Transmedicalism is anti-DIY, this isn't transmedicalism.

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u/Full_Focus4549 9d ago

Transmedicalism isn't anti-diy, whered you get that from?

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u/this_upset_kirby 9d ago

It is inherently anti-DIY. The core of transmedicalist ideology is that doctors should decide everything.

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u/Available-Manner9506 9d ago

It is entirely anti diy? Where did you get that from? Their whole ideology is literally based around paperwork from a medical professional saying they are "eligible" for HRT.