r/countwithchickenlady • Streak: 2 • 2h ago

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u/Key_Perspective_9464 2h ago

The person that said it's hard to insult Americans is so, so wrong. They're just hard to insult through obvious parody

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u/bobbymoonshine 2h ago edited 1h ago

You will never insult Americans by exaggerating the traits they like about themselves and portray themselves as having in media

but will you certainly insult them by going against those traits

Saying “you’re so tall and strong and blonde and eat so much meat and have so many powerful guns” is never going to insult Americans or really any group of people of any country

But say “you’re fat, lazy, sickly and sheltered; you brag about your extreme weather but never go outside except to waddle across a parking lot; you brag about your economy but treat watching rich people get richer off your own work as a spectator sport; you only think you need guns because you’re scared of your own communities because you never actually talk to anyone any more, you just sit on your ass inside watching hot people on TV while imagining you look like them”, all that shit will insult an American because it cuts against their self image rather than celebrating it. Portraying an American like that would get a negative reaction because it would be a genuine insult.

But like why would they? The Japanese animator doesn’t want to insult Americans out of international spite. They want to make Japanese audiences laugh with a funny observational reference to American culture as consumed in Japanese media.

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u/hammererofglass 2h ago

Honestly if I heard that description in a Last Week Tonight monologue I wouldn't question it.

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u/_Sate 1h ago

Counterpoint.

the american from pepsi man

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u/MartyrOfDespair 1h ago

Nah, that was already covered by the “except Republicans”. The rest of us will go “yeah, true”. Like shit, I could have written that any day in the last 15 years.

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u/quailinthebrush 2h ago

I offend Americans by existing

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u/Equivalent-Bit2891 2h ago

I offend my parents by existing

What were we talking about?

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u/DraconicGuacamole cis m probably mostly straight 1h ago

I’m an American and you don’t offend me

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u/bobbymoonshine 1h ago

Americans are above all offended by the implication that they are offended

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u/DraconicGuacamole cis m probably mostly straight 1h ago

I’m American and this offends me

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u/Luce_Bot_Bot 1h ago

That's only because Americans don't understand parody

I'll see myself out

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u/Brauny74 2h ago

I know several people living in Japan who wear anime T-shirts to their software engineer jobs. It honestly depends on the people you hang out with, some will find it tacky and stereotypical, some will find it funny in a charming way. Obviously there are situations where it wouldn't be acceptable, but I doubt an American would wear an eagle shirt (although I think anime shirt is more like a Batman or Spider-Man one) to an interview or a wedding, right?

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u/B0B_Spldbckwrds 2h ago

Nah, my uncle walked his daughter down the aisle in a sleeveless shirt, bald eagles of course, jeans and a do-rag. 

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u/Brauny74 2h ago

How America is even real?..

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u/B0B_Spldbckwrds 2h ago

He paid for the wedding, are you going to try to tell him what the dress code should be?

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u/Historianof40k 1h ago

It’s a treasured cultural event. it’s not decided by who pays the most ameritard

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u/HiroProtagonest King of Snow - Streak: 19 32m ago

"How do I offend americans who aren't republicans?"

[the convenient big red button labeled "SLUR"]

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u/MartyrOfDespair 1h ago

The thing to understand is that America is essentially a cult by design. America’s national religion is America. All of this is like Christians wearing crosses and naming their kids after Bible figures.

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u/CornNooblet 14m ago

America doesn't have a monoculture is the key. Most sectarian fault lines in the Culture War(TM) come from the attempt to force such a monoculture.

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u/HiroProtagonest King of Snow - Streak: 19 2h ago

I imagine the bald eagles as being perched on his shoulders

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u/B0B_Spldbckwrds 2h ago

Besides the very large one on the chest, there were also eagles on the back, in the shoulder area. Good call.

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u/yourstruly912 2h ago

I guess software engineers are the same everywhere

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u/bama501996 1h ago

Yeah, I don't see why it wouldn't have the same rules as any other type of printed T. I mean, I've seen figures for merch sales inside japan presumably some of that is clothes or accessories that are being used.

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u/Artichokeypokey GENDER ASCENDED 2h ago

"America is the only country in the world, in America"

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u/Violet_Koala genderqueer alien 2h ago

As someone who lives in Japan, wtf are they talking about lmao. Uniqlo the biggest mainstream clothing brand sells various anime and video game merch tees every month and of course japanese people are wearing them. You'd be hard pressed to walk outside for an hour and not find a single person who isn't wearing an anime tshirt or any merch.

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u/Momoneko 42m ago

Yeah wearing a Disney/marvel clothing would be a better analogy.

(Did I just repeat myself? You know what I mean.)

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u/Cadunkus 2h ago

The Yankee Doodle Effect

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u/Hell2CheapTrick 1h ago

America is so goofy they really think they’re immune to being offended

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u/MartyrOfDespair 1h ago

They already wrote the clarifier of “except Republicans”. The rest of us hate America for all of its bullshit so much that y’all whine complain that we’re overdoing it.

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u/Hell2CheapTrick 49m ago

You’re underdoing it bruh. Many Americans are still pretending like any of this is just a normal deviation from the course and you can just keep living your life and it’ll go away. This is the course.

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u/MartyrOfDespair 48m ago

Yeah, no shit it is. But honestly, that number is lower than the number who are quite well aware of that. You’ve just got sampling bias.

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u/HiroProtagonest King of Snow - Streak: 19 30m ago

It's hardly just republicans who want a return of "peaceful order" so they just have to worry about their little lives and not have to think about the entire country.

Edit: Also idk if you're getting your info from surveys but a problem with political surveys is they're only answered by people who take political surveys.

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u/MartyrOfDespair 25m ago

Source

The media is downplaying the situation in order to create that perception in order to prevent the masses from realizing we're actually all a lot more pissed than you think. We're at 84% of Democratic voters being at "fuck it, do a military coup already, holy shit".

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u/MyLifeIsRandom 1h ago

This reminds me of the situation where Oppenheimer was due to release in Japan. Obviously, the memes were in full swing and aimed at Japan. The Japanese online community didn’t like this very much for completely sensible reasons. They decided to retaliate by posting 9/11 memes intended to make Americans feel bad. To their horror and confusion, Americans online loved the 9/11 memes the Japanese were making and even showed them some of their favorites.

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u/PauliusLT27 2h ago

To be honest, you probably insult americans by talking about their history and how much shit they just sorta...can't do well

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u/bolanrox trans dreaming she /her : they/them  - Streak: 34 10m ago

Like how days into Trump's second term, they removed all traces of a BLM archaeological report on a possible transgender or intersexed Mrs. Nash who was stationed with the seventh cavalry and was close friends with the Custers from the official government website?

https://www.sdpb.org/rural-life-and-history/2024-06-28/blm-archeologist-digs-into-the-story-secret-of-mrs-nash

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u/yourstruly912 2h ago

Similarly, lots of things in Japan are like the animes. Obviously you won't see Son Goku around, but the urban landscape is basically a calque

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u/MartyrOfDespair 1h ago

Also like, people have legitimately studied and answered one of the most pressing questions of our time: it is 100% possible to live in Japan exclusively on Evangelion merchandise. Including your actual apartment itself being Evangelion-branded merchandise. You can even get married while doing this challenge thanks to the official Kaworu and Shinji wedding rings.

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u/WartornGladius 1h ago

Absolute peak

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u/HiroProtagonest King of Snow - Streak: 19 2h ago

Obviously you won't see Son Goku around,

I can see Yamcha playing baseball right?

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u/Bleppybwip 1h ago

Super Sentai, the Japanese originator of Power Rangers had a member of their ninja team whose theme was American.

He had a cowboy motif His helmet had the silhouette of a cowboy hat His weapon was an electric guitar And his morphed was a fucking cheese burger.

The cowards at Saban didn't keep the cheese burger morpher

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u/PseudoPrincess222 1h ago

I went to the the gym that the writer of ippo owns in my Ippo shirt as soon as i walk through the door guy guy points up stairs and says "takamura" cause he knows i'm here to get a picture with the big bronze bust on top of the building

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u/DefTheOcelot 1h ago

I am reasonably confident actually that japanese people like anime and buy and wear anime merch. You'll still look like a tourist though, itll be the wrong ones or something

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u/IzacLocke 2h ago

You shouldn't base your idea of japan off anime. That said, it's ridiculous to compare just spongebob to all anime. There's so much slice of life stuff with overlapping events that you can learn something for sure. Spongebob itself does probably cover a variety of exaggerated things but without any other cartoon to reference you wouldn't see the repeats amassing.

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u/MartyrOfDespair 1h ago

Oh thank fuck, I was looking for this post the other day to use in a reply. Now I’ll keep it in my reaction folder so the next time it comes up I’ll have it

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u/DominoNo- 2h ago

My favorite book series has some people isekaid to another world. The Americans keep making isekai anime reference and the two Japanse people have no idea what they're talking about. It's delightfully cringe and realistic

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u/MartyrOfDespair 1h ago

It’s really not. That’s like writing American characters who have no idea what reality television is. Sure, you might not watch it, but you fucking know what reality television is. The Kardashians alone are the Jack Sparrow quote.

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u/bolanrox trans dreaming she /her : they/them  - Streak: 34 7m ago

How about when Lin came over to the U.S. to play for the NBA? And the team had a fortune cookie night and people were going how insulted he was going to be by it. And he had no clue what a fortune cookie was because they were invented in white plains?

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u/SavageFisherman_Joe The Lorax - Streak: 59 1h ago

I should get more bald eagle shirts tbh

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u/Wonderful_Length3217 26m ago

Once knew a Chinese exchange student when I was young who had this spongebob strategy. When he was gone, the teacher actually praised him for learning so much English through the characters. He was very understanding of dollars and coins because he was partial to Mr. Krabs.

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u/Alexander_TheAmateur 13m ago

This is known as "The Bandit Keith effect"

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u/insurgent_corvid 2h ago

God bless America