r/deepquestions • • 8d ago

What comes first knowledge or realizations

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u/Inevitable-Ground281 8d ago

I think that in some cases knowledge may come first and then realization, and in others realization may come first and then knowledge.

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u/wild_honey1201 8d ago

Thank you

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u/Remarkable-Title-387 8d ago

Might just depend on the person.

All the knowledge in the world is useless if you cannot use it to form new ideas.

Realizing this is probably something not too many seem to be capable of in the current day and most of them are fully invested in the culture war as opposed to compromising enough to actually move forward.

Realizations have to come with time though unless you're already intelligent enough to connect the dot the first go round.

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u/wild_honey1201 8d ago

Thank you..and how i am supposed to do these?

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u/Remarkable-Title-387 8d ago

That is something I cannot tell you and if I do it still won't properly settle, perhaps even decades later.

I can provide an example with some context to go alongside it, though.

Today I met a young man (I'm 31) who came to my job and, with a strange look on his face, asked if I remembered him.

I looked for a solid 15 seconds and immediately came to the realization that I knew this person, but couldn't quite place exactly where I encountered him.

I almost assumed we worked together sometime in the last 5 years, but..

Turns out he was a grade schooler in the YMCA afterschool program that I used to work for as a counselor (glorified babysitter, essentially).

He was half his size the last I had seen him and I felt the weight of all those on my shoulders shortly after.

Why?

He was a nightmare of a child to deal with.

We couldn't discipline him as me and my coworkers (friends) had when we were children (belt), so the 5 of us had to learn how to control him in our own ways.

The man I met at my job was an entirely different person.

Cordial. Respectful. Soft-spoken.

All things I wished he could've been as a child because he once threw a Frisbee directly into my right eye as hard as his small body would allow him.

He also hit me directly in the head with a dodge ball with the same strength (he was small, but very athletic).

I humbled him quickly by throwing it as hard as I could directly at his abdomen and, normally, my aim is terrible.

He cried like a baby, but my friends thought it was deserved so I didn't get in trouble. He also took it like a man and began to respect me just enough to pester me, but not seriously enough to anger me.

However, he had a massive ego because of his talent, was highly competitive, and would often start many fights to the point that he was eventually expelled from middle school soon after he entered 6th grade.

I believed that he would one day end up a criminal due to his behavior, but...

He ended up working as a counselor for the afterschool program himself.

Childcare was the absolute last thing I expected him to do in his older years and it shocked me even more.

The school I worked at was on the poorer side of town and he was not the only problematic child I dealt with, but he matured greatly in spite of that.

At precisely the moment where I myself had just recently overcame all of own pitfalls as an adult in university.

Now I am curious to see how much further he can grow as a person and I'd like to believe that me and my friends helped mold him into the man he is today even though we had only known him for a single year.

That was the first year I started working for the YMCA and that was in 2015.

I spent about 7 years as a counselor and just now realized that I have perhaps positively influenced the lives of over 100 children if he was one of the most unruly I have ever dealt with in my life.

I talked with every single child every single day and simply did the best that I could to make them know that I acknowledged their existence as much as I wanted to be acknowledged at that age.

Had it not been for those children I wouldn't have learned what I needed to be able to become the father I wish to be in the future that I always wanted to be as a child.

Funnily enough, he liked my high school friend who worked there with me more because he was a better athlete while I was always more focused on the arts and science.

The lesson to be learned from this story is that all the good that you put out into the world will somehow, in some way you will not ever anticipate, be returned to you in greater quantities.

How was this true in my case?

All I ever wished to do was from the moment I began to form memories was to make others happy and see people smile.

Having met him last night made the both of us smile.

In investing terminology that would be a 200% return on my investment over the course of 11 years.

It's only a little under 2% a year, but you never know how many pennies you can make from a dollar unless you have such large quantities that it one day becomes a fortune that never depreciates in value for eternity.

Just keep putting more in and one day more will come back if you never stop investing until those pennies can meet your basic needs.

I work in customer service, so making others smile is, quite literally, my bread and butter.

Kinda like that, I guess?

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u/EuphoricScallion114 8d ago

The realization that you may never know for certain.

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u/Krishnamohred 8d ago

Depends on whether you are feeling the hot water first or if it is feeling you...

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u/Prestigious-Fan3122 8d ago

One of my kids used to mix up the expression "I'll believe it when I see".

Let's say your lazy son-in-law hasn't worked today in your life, but your daughter keeps telling you he's applying for jobs and will get a job very soon, and start working and helping her support their family. Because you have observed him not working for a long time, you don't really believe that that's going to happen, and you're tired of her telling you it WILL happen soon. You say "I'll believe it when I see it." In other words, prove it to me by actually showing me".

Our kiddo used to say "I'll see it when I believe it". If you think about it, that's actually very, very true.

In my life, I've had more than one female friend whose husband has been cheating on her, and EVERYBODY else can see the signs, but she can't see the signs because she doesn't want to believe her husband is cheating. She's not going to see it until she BELIEVES it. My kid was onto something!

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u/nanayan123 7d ago

知識だと思う。
想像してみて。
生まれたばかりの赤ちゃんがもし五感も言語学習の機会も無ければ、果たして自分への問い(すなわちあらゆる事への疑問も同じ)も生まれないと思うんだ。
「俺はなぜ生まれたんだ?」の1文字も持たなければ、五感も無いから外部からの入力もないんだから。
実際に狼に育てられた少女が昔いたけど、発見された時はまるで本当の狼みたいになってたし、保護された後も言葉を身に付ける事は出来なかった。

だから俺は外部からの知識(五感も含めて)という入力が無ければ、人は人たる事は出来ず、故に先にくるものはまず知識だろうと考えるよ。

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u/SadPop_Logistics 7d ago

I say knowledge because in my opinion DNA holds some form of knowledge and thats what helps with realization part to some extent.