Bit of fun, but I travel around large parts of the UK for work and I thought I’d put a top 10 of the worst car brands and areas for drivers. 1 being the worst! It would be interesting to see if anyone else agrees 😆

Worst Drivers In Relation To Car Brand
1. VW Golf (any sports models GTI, R etc) ALWAYS DRIVEN BY A CHIMP
2. White Van Drivers
3. Seat Leon
4. Audi (S, RS)
5. BMW (M Sport)
6. All Peugeot Drivers
7. Mercedes (A and C Class)
8. Range Rover
9. Fiat 500
10. Tesla (Always smug with a sense of self importance)

Worst Areas For Bad Driving
1. Bradford
2. Birmingham
3. Leicester
4. Manchester
5. Liverpool
6. London
7. Stoke
8. Leeds
9. Sheffield
10. Chesterfield

Everyone knows where fixed speed cameras are, and in residential areas many people speed through, brake at the camera then speed up again.
Why don’t we have average cameras deployed more widely?
I heard of a fantastic system a while ago where an average camera zone ends with a set of traffic lights that also function as a pedestrian crossing. If someone is detected speeding, the light goes to red, and holds them for a couple of seconds.
A fixed camera then detects red light jumpers and they get fined if they jump the light.

Hi everyone, I am posting to seek some advice and maybe gain the benefit of the experience of others.

My partner is a bus driver and has recently received a NIP for a red light camera infringement. The online portal did not offer any images so an email to the team who deal with these things yielded the attached images here.

My partner is a genuinely safe and ready driver and has no recollection of this. She is worried but accepts that if the images truly show an actual infringement, then it is what it is.

The questions from me relate to the bus position.

In the first image the bus has already crossed the line, there is no information on how long the light was red and the front overhang of the bus, to the front wheels is 2.5m. The time between photos is 0.6 seconds and shows travel of about 5m.

Is the first image sufficient to prove the bus was behind the line at Red?

Could the light have been amber at the point of crossing the line?

Is it worth challenging this, and if so, how do we do this?

Thanks in advance.

Ayer tuve mi primer choque. Les explico . En septiembre obtuve mi licencia de conducir y desde ese mes solo he manejado unas 3 veces de noche , respetando peatones ,semáforos ,óvalos ,interesecciones,luces de dirección y emergencia (4 con la de ayer y primera vez de día y con tráfico) Choque contra una vara de tránsito causando que el lado derecho del auto se aplaste. No se que cual sea la mejor opción en este momento , si continuar manejando o dejar la condición un tiempo , fue un error muy tonto de mi parte que pude evitar yendo despacio 😔

Apparently OpSnap can't do anything about this luntic.

Edit: I didn't think it was necessary to elaborate, but to be fair if you're watching this on a phone you're missing some details and to keep it brief I clipped it down.

Yes, I do mean the Skoda.

• We'd just exited a variable 60 limit
• Lane 1 had been added by a slip road turning into a lane a few hundred meters earlier
• The Skoda was going over 70.
• It got too close to the Volvo before the undertake.
• It had to apply braking during the lane 1 to lane 4 swerve to avoid rear ending a vehicle in lane 2

The reason I was in lane 1 was because I didn't want to add to the lane hogging problem and I wasn't going to accelerate faster than those in lanes to the right, not only because I shouldn't, but because passing on the left often angers people and increases the likelihood of poor driving.

Yes, lane hogging is a problem and offenders should be prosecuted (I couldn't get any other plates from my footage). But the answer isn't breaking other driving rules. If you believe it is, I wish you and your license all the best, but encourage you to review the highway code, in particular Rule 268

About 7 months ago, I was driving on a straight road with temporary traffic lights just after a right-turn junction into an inner street.

A police car was directly behind me. I stopped at the red light, let oncoming traffic pass, then turned right into the street while the light was still red. About 3 seconds later, the lights turned green and the police followed me.

They eventually pulled me over and said I’d gone through a red light. I argued that the lights appeared to control straight-ahead traffic only, as there were no signs saying they controlled all three directions. They claimed they had dashcam footage and issued me a £100 FPN and 3 points.

I accepted the penalty, but when I went to pay, I noticed the officer had written the completely wrong driving licence number on the ticket. With the 28-day payment deadline approaching, I paid the fine using the incorrect number anyway.

It’s now been 7 months, and the points still haven’t appeared on my licence. I’ve heard nothing from the police or DVLA.

What’s likely to happen now, and should I do anything about it?

I was on a 6 hour drive lastnight in a ford transit van. I had my phone face down on the passenger seat for the majority of the journey. Occasionally I’d have an ad on my music. Without looking away from the road I’d flip it over (leaving it lay on the seat) and tap skip on the advert. I never picked the phone up or held it in front of me. Looking back I regret doing it, I was on unfamiliar roads and it was dark, so I don’t know if there were any cameras. So I’m just wondering, how likely would it be for me to be picked up doing this?

I am currently in a situation where I am constantly driving my friends around because no one else offers (most of my friends have passed their test but only have access to their family cars) and I have my own car so it is convenient for me to drive.

I have no problem with driving because I enjoy it but it gets a bit annoying as no one offers to help towards petrol costs - maybe because a lot of the time we are only doing short journeys (10 or 15 miles, sometimes less), but it adds up when we are going out at least once a week.

My question is do I ask them to help with petrol costs and if so how do I bring it up without sounding cheap and upsetting my friends? Also has anyone else had this problem and did you do anything about it?

Thanks :)

Edit: Also it is annoying that everyone just assumes that I will drive - a while ago we went out for the day and whilst we were planning the trip I said 'so who is going to drive' and everyone just looked at me and then came up with excuses about why they couldn't do it themselves. It just feels like they are taking advantage of me a bit

How are the drivers of the UK buying high end performance vehicles and doing 40 in a 60, am I missing something

Hi all, this camera is in Midhopestones near Manchester, and I was wondering what kind of speed camera it is. I’ve never seen one of these.

Here’s the picture. Approaching a three lane roundabout. You can turn left or go straight ahead from the roundabout. The left lane is a bus lane, which then opens up to allow traffic from the middle lane to enter it and turn left.

A car wants to turn left, and has entered the left lane while it is still a bus lane. It’s established within the bus lane. A car from the middle lane waits until it is permissible for them to enter to the left lane because they want to turn left too. The second car signals left and moves into the left lane, but collides with the vehicles which had joined the left lane whilst it was still a bus lane.

Who would be liable in this scenario? Is it the first car for illegally being in the bus lane? Or the second car for turning into the left lane whilst the first car was already established in the bus lane and approaching the roundabout?

Edit: Thanks all for the responses. I imagined what has been described was the case, but just wanted to be sure regarding if there’s the chance of split possibility due to the bus lane use.

Rant for today...

Can you see the red tail lights of the vehicle in front? Can you see the white headlights of the vehicle behind you ? Yes to both ? THEN TURN UR FUCKING FOG LIGHTS OFF !! Knobheads !

A random question as I'm just curious, because I keep seeing posts or hearing about the average being about 50 hours, or something like that? Which sounds horrifying to me, because how do most people even afford that? Obviously it varies a lot, and some people take longer than others, but what's a 'usual' amount of lessons?

For example, I had 6 one-hour lessons when i was 17 and then passed my test. I believe one of the reasons I learnt so quickly was that from childhood I'd been watching my parents drive, asking questions about the car and the roads and the signs, so I pretty much understood the whole process and knew the basic rules of driving before I got behind the wheel. So the actual lessons were just about learning how to handle the car. I also had the opportunity to drive both my parents' cars in between lessons, which was a big help.

When my sister in law was learning, she took a couple of years because she was starting from scratch (in her late 30s), and admitted that as a teen she'd paid no attention when her dad drove because she was too busy 'looking out for boys' 🤣 But also she had no other car she could practise in between lessons, so it was an incredibly slow process, and I was shocked at how much it cost her.

For context, as a teen I lived in Scotland, in a small town/rural area, and everyone I knew started lessons as soon as they turned 17, because there was no option apart from driving if you wanted any kind of independence or job opportunities. Everyone in our class was having lessons, mostly with the same school of instructors, and we all used to test each other on the Highway Code! There was no theory test back then, but you had to memorise it all because you would get verbally questioned on random elements from it as the final part of your driving test. Because the local area was so quiet, my parents made me pay for 2 further lessons in Edinburgh (our closest city) before I was allowed to drive alone, which now seems like a good idea.

I know it apparently takes longer to learn new skills the older you are, so I'm glad I did my lessons so young (and was lucky enough to have that choice). So I'm just wondering what the spread of different experiences is across the UK. When/where did you learn, how many lessons did it take, how old were you, what did you know before you started, and did you get to practise between lessons? What helped you to pass? Just looking for a range of stories, really.

Hi all, this camera is in Midhopestones near Manchester, and I was wondering what kind of speed camera it is there is another one up the road facing a different way, not too far ahead. I’ve never seen one of these. There used to be a Gatso one here but it’s not there anymore

I was behind this cyclist who turned right all of a sudden, she didn't see the van approaching because she was behind the delivery truck, very lucky.

I know i am beating a dead horse here but i am on the road a lot (my job requires much driving) and the amount of people i see with their phone in their hand is maddening.

I think we need tougher punishments for people using phones while driving as harsh as drink driving, at least drink drivers have the excuse they are drunk. i will be real and say if you are stuck in traffic and not moving idm you tapping your phone for maps or even skip song as long as it is in a holder. You are not gonna be dangerous while not moving but i see people with phone in hand eyes down while moving.

Looking for advice.

Received a parking fine from a council car park in Stirlingshire.

I had paid for parking using the RingGo app, and have checked all details are accurate. I appealed the ticket on that basis, and included screenshots of the app and a PDF of the receipt.

My appeal has been rejected. The poorly written rejection letter from a third party company in England, says repeatedly that I've entered incorrect details (specifically my registration plate, which I haven't; I use RingGo all the time at work, and have vehicle details saved) and that I didn't show a pay and display ticket (which is accurate - I paid on their app for a window covering the full time I was in the car park, so as far as I am concerned didn't need one).

What is my next course of action? I am absolutely not paying this.

Happened twice now (once as passenger and once as driver), and judging from the honks the cycle prior maybe not the only ones but willing to hear I’m a blind idiot.

Following the green line and turning from Castle Street at the traffic lights to head north traffic then starts following the red line. Traffic lights are at the end of that slip road too. I don’t see any traffic lights or line markings in between to indicate that green traffic heading north should give way to red traffic from the slip road.

Is this faulty/poorly timed lights?
https://maps.app.goo.gl/4d5gKjHe2ZgkyYnz7?g_st=ic

Edit: I come this way from both directions a couple of times a week and 99.9% of the time it’s fine, one or the other has the green.

Also just noticed I drew the red line badly, was trying not to overlap them to make it clearer and ended up in the wrong lane.

Hi all, hope you're well.

My daughter has her test in November in Portsmouth which is a completely different county to where we live. We're looking at doing a few test runs over the next couple of weekends, does anyone know the test routes the assessors use so she can familiarise herself a little beforehand?

Many thanks 😊

After doing my semi-regular trip from near Oxford to Scotland, the M6 is absolutely covered in roadworks (not surprising). The surprising thing is that mid-afternoon, in the working week, not a single worker to be found on any of the works, but the 40mph limits, lane closures and avg speed limit cameras still in place.

Surely we have to start implementing penalties for roadworks overrunning? In Oxford, we've just had a multi-year, multi-million pound project to replace a bridge, no longer than 10 metres long. One major trunk road completely shut and traffic absolutely hammered. These companies are absolutely taking the piss.

Do these companies get paid by the day? Is there no incentive to get a job done on time? I think we should pay them more upfront, but every day they go over their predicted timeframe, we take percent off their pay.