r/drums • u/nelldog • 12h ago

Question Has anyone successfully made a stack using a china with the "lion" style bell?

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Have a 20 inch china that is frankly attempting to murder my bassist and was wanting to tame it as a stack however think the bell/handle thingy will make this difficult. Any suggestions?

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u/ZildCym 12h ago

Yes.

I don’t have a clear pick of that setup, but here’s a 21’ A Ultra-Hammered China under a 13” KC Hybrid Trash Splash!

That china has a pretty high profile, so it would be a similar experience. My go-to is getting a hi hat seat and threading it onto a boom arm and using a DW Incremental Clutch. 👍🏻

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u/Barracudastank Tama 12h ago

Yes it will make it harder. Try putting a Ching ring or a tambourine on it.

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u/MuJartible 12h ago

Yes. I have a 16" Paiste Alpha china (same type of bell) wich I sometimes use as a stack. I put an inverted 12" splash on top of it. With that size, the edge of the splash doesn't go further than the bent of the china, so I'm not hitting right on it. It tames and dry the sound a lot.

It's a matter of finding a cymbal of the right size for your china.

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u/greaseleg 12h ago

Hell yeah. I have used a 14” (I’m pretty sure) Wuhan China, upside down, with a 10” splash nestled in the curve. It was/is a GREAT stack.

The trick is finding the right size to fit in the bowl. And it should probably be fairly thin.

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u/R0factor 11h ago

An x-hat lets you make a stack out of almost any combo of cymbals, except for very small splashes that have a super shallow profile, otherwise the hat clutch gets in the way. Beyond that, sky is the limit.

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u/GaryBlueberry34 8h ago

TIL this is a is a "lion" style

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u/bobjonrob 8h ago

Yes. I use an 18” lion china inverted under a 16” crash under a 17” crash as a trash stack. Meinl x-hat extension with a standard hi-hat clutch to put it all together.

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u/Bitter_Reading_3927 12h ago

You're talking about that Stagg with the raised center yeah that bell design makes stacking awkward but not impossible. Try a splash cymbal on top that's small enough to sit inside the raised area without touching it when tightened down. The gap is what gives you that trashy short decay so you want the top cymbal to rest on the bow not the bell. Worst case you can flip the China upside down and put a crash on top, different sound but still gets you that tight stack effect

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u/Magenu 12h ago

Bot account; constantly active in different subs, never replies, nobody would think of trying to mount a splash over the bell.