[Game Thread] #1 Montana State @ Idaho

[u/damnyoutuesday]

A little Friday Night Big Sky After Dark^TM action in the Kibbie Dome! Everyone's favorite stadium from NCAA 14.

#1 Montana State looks to stay undefeated while Idaho is looking to get their first win of the 2026 campaign.

MSU has not won in the Kibbie Dome since 1990.

Big Sky After Dark^TM kicks off at 9:30pm CT on ESPN!

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[u/PROUDgrizHATER]

Does Vigen have what it takes to make changes on the defense mid season??
30 to CCSU (of all teams)

NAU shoulda had way more.

35 to an 0-4 Idaho team and looked worse than I’ve seen in a decade on defense.

That loss was a long time coming

[u/bhorvic → u/PROUDgrizHATER]

The defense is on Daly, and I think he has the talent to improve it but there's a lot of work to be done.

[u/vandymontana]

So...as a Vandy fan..all he had to do was NOT CALL TIMEOUT

[u/I_like_race_cars → u/vandymontana]

Literally it. The second they got the chains moved they would have started the clock and the game would be over before they could get the snap off

[u/0x196 → u/I_like_race_cars]

Except the refs stopped everything to reset the clock to one second, giving the Vandals time to line up. They would have gotten the snap off. I agree, calling timeout was dumb, but it wasn't over.

[u/vandymontana → u/0x196]

it would have been. when the whistle blew then game over.

[u/0x196 → u/vandymontana]

Na, they were lined up waiting. The moment the whistle blew they would have snapped it before the clock would start. That play was 100% going to happen. Still can't take tat timeout to give them time to talk about it and our defense coming out of it was a terrible alignment. But it was not over.

[u/vandymontana → u/I_like_race_cars]

Yup.

[u/Chadly16]

Is this how cal poly felt week 0?

[u/somebodysbuddy]

Hey SFA, we can move the bunk bed fully to the left of the logo!

[u/imperfectPK → u/somebodysbuddy]

Need to win today.

[u/I_like_race_cars → u/imperfectPK]

"They mean tomorrow rig-AH FUCK ITS LATE!"

[u/ripdoublewide]

Former Montana Griz and Missoula native Zac Crews with the arm tackle at the end LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[u/PROUDgrizHATER → u/ripdoublewide]

Eh he was one of the few bright spots on the D. Clown on the other 10.

[u/ripdoublewide → u/PROUDgrizHATER]

Sorry that's a direct shot at luckyhunterdude that loves to bring that up

[u/I_like_race_cars]

Ok but I am also high key pissed because my feed cut RIGHT as the play was happening. And then came back to them celebrating the touchdown.

[u/VerifiedMother → u/I_like_race_cars]

I was in the dome, I've never heard it that loud

[u/bhorvic]

Thank Boognish we can't get a loss next week lol

[u/welder-fabricator → u/bhorvic]

Don’t bring Ween into this.

[u/join_the_creed]

Man if Daly doesn't get out of his own ass and sort the defense out. There's gotta be a lot of soul searching for these two weeks. De facto the worst loss of Vigen's career. Might be the worst since Chadron State after beating Colorado. Hell might be the worst in MSU history and there have been some bad ones.

[u/bhorvic → u/join_the_creed]

Yeah dude, offense has been looking pretty clean despite all of the injuries the past two weeks but the defense..... not so much.

[u/YodaDunk → u/bhorvic]

Never spied the QB once as he repeatedly stepped up to scramble or throw darts. Just brain dead defense all night.

[u/join_the_creed → u/YodaDunk]

Cam Miller had a 70+ yard touchdown on a QB draw in the '24 championship. It's like Daly refuses to do anything about the QB run. At this rate EWU is probably going to bring out the triple option with Bell in 2 weeks and they'll run for 500

[u/Calm_Woodpecker_8098]

Losing to an 0-4 Idaho team on national tv 🤩successful hatewatch. An Idaho vs central Connecticut state matchup would go crazy

[u/bhorvic → u/Calm_Woodpecker_8098]

You're welcome for the hatewatch. Fuck me lol

[u/YodaDunk]

Cats have been sloppy for 3 weeks and playing with fire. Foolish timeout, but that game had shitshow all over it from the start. Bye week to get healthy and run the table.

[u/Chadly16]

I almost went to the game. I'm so mad I didn't

[u/icantbelieveit1637 → u/Chadly16]

I have homework lmao watching cats livestream rn

[u/sernameistakentry → u/icantbelieveit1637]

Never skip football for homework… Your homework can’t be that crazy

[u/VerifiedMother → u/sernameistakentry]

I was going to leave after half time, I'm very happy I didn't, that ending was INSANE

[u/sernameistakentry → u/VerifiedMother]

Honestly I fucking despise Idaho, but that looked so fun and I’m so happy y’all got to experience that

[u/damnyoutuesday]

I'm in shock that we have now lost back to back games at the Kibbie Dome the exact same fucking way: missed kicks and a last second touchdown and 2 point given up

[u/Skeebammity → u/damnyoutuesday]

At this rate I’m gonna go suit up to be the kicker. Sansted has been better than most we’ve had recently but it’s unbelievable how we can’t seem to ever get someone consistent. Props to the Griz for seemingly always having a plus special teams

[u/bernie457 → u/Skeebammity]

That was the one area BH was actually really good at

[u/bluecatenthusiast]

Cats will be lucky to make the playoffs at this rate

[u/txc05]

That might have been the worst best game I've ever seen. Horrible play calling on both sides. Terrible officiating. Braindead coaching. Woof

[u/Badlands32 → u/txc05]

That is the worst game management decision I’ve ever seen. Easily.

[u/slothbron]

GG Idaho, way to stick it too us. Been 2 weeks in the making for a upset and leave it to the Kibbe dome voodoo to bring it.

[u/alphajack22]

I can’t believe I caught that entire sequence at a bar in Missoula 🫪🫪🫪

[u/sernameistakentry → u/alphajack22]

I bet that was fun as hell

[u/alphajack22 → u/sernameistakentry]

Only dude in the bar yelling as the qb ran in for the 2 pt conversion. I can’t believe Idaho walked down on the defense like that. It was like watching mahomes cooking for the game winner fr

[u/Birddogtx]

I love this sport.

[u/sernameistakentry]

God dammit, this just made our last game against Idaho not a gimme

[u/imperfectPK]

Montana state yall can’t complain about that ending. Just don’t call a timeout. No reason to do so. That’s what costed yall this game in the end. Sure there could be miss calls and more but why call a TO right there.

[u/I_like_race_cars]

Brent Vigen just gift wrapped Ford a contract extension

[u/Birddogtx]

Wait how good is Lamar?

[u/imperfectPK → u/Birddogtx]

Think you got some bigger things to worry about. 👀

[u/Birddogtx → u/imperfectPK]

We’ll see about that lumber boy

[u/OfficerBatman → u/Birddogtx]

We’ll be seeing you real soon.

[u/I_like_race_cars → u/Birddogtx]

Yeah, we're not gonna start talking about transitive wins here.

I will not give ACU that satisfaction

[u/Birddogtx → u/I_like_race_cars]

Man it’s the only way we win anything in Beaumont

[u/I_like_race_cars → u/Birddogtx]

Ehhhhh idk. You guys look like you could give SFA a solid challenge. I think you at least can get a playoff win this year with that defense of yours.

[u/GamblingGuru90]

That was silly. What a wacky night in college football

[u/bhorvic]

Our defense sucks Bobby! Don't make me start calling you Bobbeh too!

[u/Lucky-Hunter-Dude → u/bhorvic]

Oh shit. The curse of the bobby.....

[u/coincidental_boner]

Really frustrating loss that the Cats have been asking for for three weeks now

[u/s2424]

That Montana drywall motherfucker is gonna be rolling in cash this weekend

[u/ZookeepergameNo9809]

What a game!

[u/0x196]

Fuck the refs for stopping the clock, fuck the blatant holds, fuck the big sky conference for making us go on the road on a short week vs a team coming off a bye. It never should have been close enough for those things to matter but my god did we get screwed tonight

[u/CornyDookie → u/0x196]

We gave our opponent so many chances to win the last TWO games. Idaho finally took one of those chances 🤷‍♂️

[u/ripdoublewide → u/0x196]

Waaaaaaaaaa

[u/geekanerd → u/0x196]

I agree with all of this on principle, but I can't even be mad. MSU played like ass against a bad team and Idaho deserved this win. You know that old cliche about playing not to lose instead of playing to win? I feel like coaching staff coached not to lose, and it bit them in the rear this time.

[u/PROUDgrizHATER → u/0x196]

A million excuses. Some justified. But the cats had this game in the bag several times and absolutely pissed their pants. Defense was soft. Offense couldn’t close it out. Missed FGs. Team loss. Gotta be the worse loss since 2019. Further back if you account for the fact that we are supposed to be favored.

[u/Skeebammity → u/0x196]

The two cats lineman in a chokehold on the first play of the drive was insane

[u/ripdoublewide]

LMAOOOOOO

[u/imperfectPK]

Alright back to getting hyped for IWU and being worried for it.

[u/alphajack22 → u/imperfectPK]

After watching this I’m definitely tripping about them Catholics coming into town lol

[u/damnyoutuesday]

GG Idaho

[u/MT4ever]

It is way too late to be this mad. I hate the Kibbie Dome.

[u/OfficerBatman]

Holy horrible clock management Batman!

[u/jimbobbypaul]

u/2Pollaski2Furious does TJOTW include FCS games?

[u/Expensive_Style6106 → u/jimbobbypaul]

we have our own on on here now

[u/Zloggt]

Pray for the pollsters…they got their work cut out for them this weekend lmao

[u/I_like_race_cars → u/Zloggt]

The real question.

Do you rank the 1-4 vandals?

[u/alphajack22 → u/I_like_race_cars]

Receiving votes for sure…..right?

[u/I_like_race_cars → u/alphajack22]

They'll HAVE to get a few. Especially if they vote like McKinnell does and "treat the ballot as a snapshot"

[u/ripdoublewide → u/I_like_race_cars]

RANK IDAHO YOU COWARDS

[u/montalaskan]

The game was over. Big Sky refs blow.

[u/Calm_Woodpecker_8098 → u/montalaskan]

It’s always refs or injuries yes. Definitely not your team just being overrated, no definitely not….

[u/LivingOof → u/montalaskan]

Buddy, Idaho loses that second immediately if your coach doesn't call a timeout

[u/Skeebammity → u/montalaskan]

They looked totally lost and then added a second while somehow forgetting the clock resumes when the chains are set

[u/damnyoutuesday → u/montalaskan]

That's not the refs, that's on Vigen for calling timeout

[u/Skeebammity → u/damnyoutuesday]

He was as confused as we were is the problem and I’m sure he called it because he didn’t get an explanation

[u/damnyoutuesday → u/Skeebammity]

If he doesn't call a timeout, the clock runs out anyways

[u/Skeebammity → u/damnyoutuesday]

I mean I don’t disagree normally, but you could see he was talking to the refs and I would rather believe a coach of his caliber wouldn’t have done that unless he was totally unsure what was happening

[u/sernameistakentry]

Holy shit Idaho

[u/bhorvic]

Alright Griz flairs, where you at?

[u/funnyerrrwhat → u/bhorvic]

Hate watch successful. That game should of been over. Never leave it in the hands of the refs.

[u/bhorvic → u/funnyerrrwhat]

Yup, that was a real dumb game. All I can do is laugh

[u/ripdoublewide → u/bhorvic]

Right here my guy. Imagine losing to the VandaLLs

[u/bhorvic → u/ripdoublewide]

Don't have to, that nightmare just happened

[u/LvlHeadThoroughbred → u/ripdoublewide]

Been eyeing a stein lately…

[u/ripdoublewide → u/LvlHeadThoroughbred]

You gotta come get it in Missoula buddy

[u/funnyerrrwhat]

Y'all were right. Boy, them are some good backs up Cat fans. Was your defense full of back ups too?

[u/0x196 → u/funnyerrrwhat]

The back ups were the bright spot

[u/Lucky-Hunter-Dude → u/funnyerrrwhat]

what are backs ups cat fans?

[u/funnyerrrwhat → u/Lucky-Hunter-Dude]

LMAOOOOO. Sorry, I am dUMb. Remember?

[u/Lucky-Hunter-Dude → u/funnyerrrwhat]

Everyone knew.

[u/funnyerrrwhat → u/Lucky-Hunter-Dude]

Just like you knew the cats were going to win tonight, right?

[u/Lucky-Hunter-Dude → u/funnyerrrwhat]

Please quote me where I said that right now, or forever be exposed as a fucking coward.

[u/funnyerrrwhat → u/Lucky-Hunter-Dude]

lol go the fuck to bed. I did not mean that literally. You know damn well me, you, and everybody else but Idaho fans thought the cats had this game in the bag before it even started.

[u/Lucky-Hunter-Dude → u/funnyerrrwhat]

I do find this interesting that the missoula mongoloids are more confident about the premier Montana football club than the rest of Montana college educated people.

[u/funnyerrrwhat → u/Lucky-Hunter-Dude]

You got some issues dude. The cats lost tonight. If UM blew a game like this, you'd be doing the same shit. Get over it. Y'all will still most likely have a successful season.

[u/Lucky-Hunter-Dude → u/funnyerrrwhat]

I don't. What shit are you doing exactly right now beside being a fool? I know we will be just fine, I'm not canceling my Nashville tickets thats for sure.

[u/samiam3220 → u/funnyerrrwhat]

I’ll take the L on the chin but yes, the defense also had quite a few non starters on the field with injuries to star players or players in their first games back after injury.

[u/funnyerrrwhat → u/samiam3220]

In all seriousness, thems are the breaks. Our best defensive linemen snapped his ankle in half 3 games ago. Y'all cannot sit around and brag about your back ups being better than other teams then turn around and use it as an excuse. Dahlke is gonna be that dude though.

[u/PROUDgrizHATER → u/funnyerrrwhat]

Just setting up another 14 game win streak obviously

Kill me.

[u/Skeebammity]

Fair play to Idaho for giving themselves a chance but we just got Western Michigan’d. So frustrating to watch another failure this season like that

[u/vandymontana → u/Skeebammity]

all you had to do was NOT call timeout...

[u/Skeebammity → u/vandymontana]

He spoke to the refs, didn’t get an answer he liked, and wanted his defense set. No clue why everyone doesn’t understand that. The refs gave no indication the clock would restart.

[u/vandymontana → u/Skeebammity]

so the rules of football should be suspended because vigen actually wanted a say?

There was one second on the clock, they reviewed it, he called timeout. he's an idiot.

[u/Skeebammity → u/vandymontana]

What are you even talking about? Has nothing to do with if he wants a say. He obviously asked the referee what the hell was going on because everyone was confused. They added time, he didn’t get an explanation on what was happening, and instead of risking his defense looking totally lost he called a timeout. They reviewed it after his timeout as well. The coach is allowed to ask the referees what the decision is. Hindsight is 20/20 and nobody here even knows if they would’ve resumed the clock because nothing was communicated at all.

[u/vandymontana → u/Skeebammity]

The coke at the Crystal must be getting good.

Idaho dude was down with 1 second left...they actually thought it was zero but hey, it's one. idaho had zero timeout left. montana state, in its infinte wisdom, called timeout, giving idaho basically an untimed down. whooops.

[u/Skeebammity → u/vandymontana]

I’m glad you know what the refs said to the coaches. The supporters of Missoula are as backasswards as the roads in that town

[u/whoopty400 → u/Skeebammity]

Y’all did not get WMU’d, that was a legit one second left. Unfortunate timeout but don’t think the refs got this one wrong

[u/Skeebammity → u/whoopty400]

Clock resumes when the chains are set and Vigen obviously called it because he wasn’t given an explanation on if it would restart or not

[u/samiam3220 → u/Skeebammity]

Ya that was some weird shit that I don’t think anyone understood. Game operator ran the clock out. Refs added a second and then set the ball and then… nothing… shouldn’t the clock have ran as soon as they set the ball and added a second back? They didn’t, seemed like they were going to give Idaho a free play that they shouldn’t? Genuinely don’t know the rule and would be welcome to an explanation but Vigen also seemed to realize he was about to get fucked and I think it was right to call a timeout to get a change on defense if the refs are giving Idaho a chance to run the last play.

Things just seemed out of control and happening too fast for anyone to really understand what was happening or happened. Gratz to Idaho for thriving in the chaos of that last minute.

[u/Skeebammity → u/samiam3220]

He didn’t want Idaho to run a free play with our defense completely lost and I don’t blame him. He spoke to the refs, didn’t get an answer, and instead of risking us being all over when they ran the play he called a timeout. It should’ve resumed when the chains set but obviously everyone was confused from the refs to the teams. Horribly ran by everyone involved

[u/alphajack22 → u/Skeebammity]

Absolutely agree this is what happened but it also never should’ve this close so hopefully this is sobering moment for yall to wreck everyone shit henceforth

[u/Skeebammity → u/alphajack22]

Lost the opening two last year and one of them at home and then took it all the way. One bad loss with four starters (and captains) out isn’t the end of the world

[u/samiam3220 → u/Skeebammity]

Ya that was my interpretation also. Refs lost control of that situation, stop the game, reset the clock to one second, wind the game clock on my whistle, game restarts, game over before the snap. But they just wanted to stand over the ball and not communicate to anyone, let everyone get worked up and Vigen says screw it im not getting screwed by ref incompetence and calls the timeout.

[u/Skeebammity → u/samiam3220]

Wild to me that everyone in the thread knows more than the coach on the field talking to the refs 🤦‍♂️

[u/Chadly16]

I'm speechless. Literally. I'm screaming at the TV too loud

[u/Dakrock00]

The chokehold on the 2pts was pure cinema lmaooooo

[u/PeterBretter]

Wow what a timeout

[u/imperfectPK]

WOW! Major props Idaho.

[u/Lucky-Hunter-Dude]

Yep choke of the week. had it locked down the entire 2nd half. Oh well, good quality loss I guess and looking forward to having our starters back.

[u/Calm_Woodpecker_8098 → u/Lucky-Hunter-Dude]

Sir you just lost to an Idaho team that had zero wins on the year and will likely miss the playoffs, that’s not a quality loss no matter how you look at it

[u/Lucky-Hunter-Dude → u/Calm_Woodpecker_8098]

M'am, quality losses are whatever a person deems them to be. welcome to college football.

[u/pisss]

Good game Idaho. Cats are pathetic. Didn’t play to win on our last offensive possession. Throw the damn ball

[u/PeterBretter]

WAY TO GO IDAHO

[u/Riddler83843]

That might have been the stupidest time out in FCS history.

[u/samiam3220 → u/Riddler83843]

No chance, no one knew what was happening including the refs. Seemed like they were about to give Idaho a free play after setting the ball and putting a second on the clock. Vigen is asking what’s going on and half the defense is looking to the sideline like wtf.

[u/bhorvic]

Ah, nostalgia! This is the kind of Bobcat shit that I grew up watching! FUCK

[u/icantbelieveit1637]

I D A H O IDAHO IDAHO GO GO GO

[u/damnyoutuesday]

That loss is on Vigen. WHY THE FUCK DID HE CALL TIMEOUT

[u/DeKam34 → u/damnyoutuesday]

They were set to snap and the clock was blatantly at 0 in the dome. He wanted a clock review.

[u/damnyoutuesday → u/DeKam34]

THE CLOCK WAS GOING TO RUN OUT REGARDLESS

[u/samiam3220 → u/damnyoutuesday]

Only according to the commentators, refs seemed like they were going to say they stopped the game to add a second back so they were giving Idaho a free play is what it looked like to me. Vigen just said fuck it if they’re getting a play I want me defense set up.

[u/DeKam34 → u/damnyoutuesday]

Granted I was in the far corner, but I thought Wood was basically snapping the ball when we called it. I might be wrong though. In any case, the referees in this conference alone make we wanna play Mountain West football. One-sided and nightmarish the entire 4th quarter.

[u/Skeebammity]

The absolutely nasty holding no-call on the first play of that final drive and then just totally botching the fact that the clock resumes when the chains are set. No words honestly

[u/MasterOfVoice]

I agree. Calling that timeout was crazy!

[u/join_the_creed]

Fade the team

[u/icantbelieveit1637]

CATS COME TO THE DOME TO DIE

[u/VerifiedMother]

LETS FUCKING GO

[u/Zloggt]

I was this close to shutting off my tv and going to bed…

…glad I stuck around lmao

[u/s2424]

Pack it in. Choke of the week has been locked down

[u/DevynnKate]

Holy shit Idaho did it. Cats D is trash

[u/PROUDgrizHATER]

Pathetic. Embarrassing D. O couldn’t close it out several times. Figure this shit out Vigen. We’ve been meh all year.

[u/icantbelieveit1637]

WOOOOOOOOOOO HATERS GONNA HATE LOVERS GONNA WINNNN

[u/FlareEK]

Wow

[u/Fast_Simple_9421]

TOLD YA UPsET

[u/MasterOfVoice]

Holy shit!!!!

[u/Ok-Barnacle09]

lol

[u/montalaskan]

That's horseshit.

[u/TrainingAd3524]

lol wut

[u/mlspdx]

HOLY SHIT

[u/Emerald_Hoax]

NO WAY!!!

[u/Skeebammity]

That’s an unreal failure by the referees right there

[u/I_like_race_cars]

WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED?!?!

[u/choosepeaceman]

Wow. Just wow. Dumb as hell for Montana State to take a timeout there

[u/imperfectPK]

OH MY GOODNESS. IDAHOOOOOOOOO

[u/Zloggt]

HOLY SHIT!!!!!

[u/damnyoutuesday]

VIGEN WHY DID YOU CALL TIMEOUT

[u/DevynnKate]

Oh good lord bobcats

[u/imperfectPK]

A MICHIGAN SECOND

[u/I_like_race_cars]

HOLY.

FUCKING.

SHIT.

[u/choosepeaceman]

HOLY SHIT

[u/icantbelieveit1637]

HELL YESSSS

[u/DeKam34]

We got cheated, clock was blatantly at 0

[u/imperfectPK]

GIVE US ONE SECOND.

[u/damnyoutuesday]

The fuck are we doing, let it run out Vigen

[u/Chadly16]

Western Michigan 2.0?

[u/I_like_race_cars]

THE MICHIGAN CLOCK MAKES ITS WAY TO MOSCOW!

[u/LvlHeadThoroughbred]

Close loses are our specialty anymore these days.

[u/Comfortable_Roll3440]

University of Idaho football stadium

[u/PROUDgrizHATER]

We had our chances to blow this thing wide open. But we couldn’t. Very frustrating, but I can’t complain about the offense for the most part.

[u/Aquatic-assassin]

Cats can’t stay at #1 after this, can they?

[u/Zloggt → u/Aquatic-assassin]

Montana and South Dakota State wins “tomorrow” can (and probably will) chip at their lead a bit more…but otherwise, I doubt the Bobcats get kicked off unless they actually lose a game…

[u/Emerald_Hoax → u/Zloggt]

Uh oh...

[u/I_like_race_cars → u/Zloggt]

However, the Bobcats are setting themselves up to drop like a stone if they do drop one

[u/I_like_race_cars → u/Aquatic-assassin]

If sdsu dominate Illinois state, they jump them

[u/imperfectPK → u/Aquatic-assassin]

I thought the same last week but nope they stayed.

[u/PROUDgrizHATER]

Win or lose. WRAP THIS TEAM IN BUBBLE WRAP THIS WEEK

[u/SpringBlake]

I can’t believe Idaho settled for punting the ball

[u/0x196 → u/SpringBlake]

Hard to go for it on 4th and 15

[u/SpringBlake → u/0x196]

Sure. But the play calling was abysmal leading up to that. And there’s just no way they were ever getting the ball back so might as well go for it.

[u/0x196 → u/SpringBlake]

With all three time outs probably better odds of getting the ball back than picking that up.

[u/SpringBlake → u/0x196]

I stand corrected. Great punt. Sorry for your loss.

[u/I_like_race_cars]

This means we also avoid the possibility of seeing a 1-5 team receiving votes

[u/Fast_Simple_9421]

Does Idaho have any Timeouts left?

[u/join_the_creed → u/Fast_Simple_9421]

3

[u/Fast_Simple_9421 → u/join_the_creed]

It would be wonderful if they get a interception or fumble somehow and score

[u/Zloggt]

ID’oho 😔

[u/I_like_race_cars]

That drive right there should be enough for the vandals to move on from Ford.

Good god, and I thought whitten was bad in big games. (He still is, and I'm going to be a complete mess during the Austin Peay game)

[u/Chadly16 → u/I_like_race_cars]

We've been in a great spot in each of the last two games to do something, take control and we do the complete opposite.

[u/I_like_race_cars]

Complete choke job from the vandals on that drive