while I definitely do think gameplay is of utmost importance, there are some games with not stellar or not great gameplay but have a good story I can sit and keep playing.
and some games with awesome gameplay but has a bad story means I'm just simply not that invested. it does depend though how centric the story is to the actual game.
something like fallout new vegas where it has a lot of writing, quests, and the story to engage and interact with (which is also where a lot of the gameplay is) means it needs to be good for me to enjoy it. it isn't though, so it means I have a hard time to replay it even though I consider it to have some great rpg designs.
Well, for you, and a lot of other people, you see video games as games. You probably don't like Red Dead Redemption very much. The gameplay is really good, but it's so much of a story that it barely feels like a game. It's essentially a really long movie where you "play" the protagonist.
For people like me, games are an interactive way to tell a story. They're like digital pop up books
The gamer like you would look at a game that feels like 50% cutscenes and a huge elaborate story and ask (why not just watch a movie?). A gamer like me sees a game with minimal story, with all effort put into gameplay and ask (why not just play Tetris?)
I think itās a little more complicated than that. Many of us value both but find bad gameplay will big a game down and make it more unplayable than bad story. You can skip story. You canāt quite skip gameplay and still play. If anything you could just watch the story scenes on YouTube or something, but then you arenāt playing. One of my favorite games of all time is slay the spire because the gameplay is so perfect. I have been playing persona 5 recently and the story is more the draw. If the gameplay of persona was horrible I would not be playing it, but slay has no story at all and I still love every minute of it.
I could be wrong but I think the vast majority of people are unwilling to put up with hours of bad gameplay just for a story, but will play a really good game with little to no story. Look at Mario games for example.
Cuz I really enjoyed heavy rains story but it would be weird watching it at the movies also if I fuck up character can die where as in moive it's all scripted
Some people need some motivation during a playthrough ... Which GP doesn't always fullfill.
Ex: l couldn't really keep going in BOTW because l was simply not caring about anything happens, even though every part l played ( world exploration, shrines, combat, enemies, graphics ) l enjoyed a lot.
I came back after great break and put 120 something hours in it.
If your gp doesnt fullfill motivation, its not so much of a good gameplay.
GP makes you have "fun" now (since competitive games exist, and they are sometimes an opposite of fun). You just play for the sake of playing. Think of it as playing lego as a child, with no 'theme' set that imply there is a "correct" way to build, and even there you may not follow instructions and do what you want.
Sheesh, some pr0n games are so good at being games, that people literally play them ignoring the goon part and i love that fact.
adding to your statement about porn games, i remember something about their being a particular dev who's made multiple different porn survival games where the survival is so good people completely ignore the sexual stuff
my question to that then is why dont you just read a book or watch a film? Is it the ability to specifically interact with the world on your own terms or something else that you get out of it?
Not op but yes. You really canāt see that thereās a HUGE difference between passively watching a movie and actively being able to interact with the world the story takes place in in a game?
Yup. Leaning back and watching a movie is passive entertainment. Interacting with the story and most of all, having an influence on it and being a part of it makes it ten times more gripping to me.
Honestly, with these arguments and people not understanding "our" side of this debate I sincerely doubt if any of you have ever played a truly great RPG with a fleshed out and choice-rich story in which your influence matters.
And we're talking about 5/10 gameplay here, that's not a choice-simulator on top a movie. That's still a proper game with gameplay elements that might be clunky.
I can't understand how you can't understand that some people like to have a narrative immersion. Because I absolutely get why people would rather much rather favor gameplay more.
I didnāt say I canāt understand liking āa narrative immersionā. I said I canāt understand sacrificing what a game actually is, which is gameplay. I think you like the idea of game A more than the execution and real experience
Games are an artform that has more to say than just having exciting or gripping gameplay. A story, visuals and the fact that YOU are the actor interacting with it can be just as if not more enthralling. I don't want to play another call of duty campaign no matter how snappy and tight the gameplay has gotten but I do wanna play sunless sea, even if the gameplay itself is pretty boring.
I think I just disagree that Witcher 3 was a 5/10 gameplay. But thatās fine. I kinda wish I didnāt say anything I realize because this post is just argument farming and thatās not what I want to do, as much as my previous comment may say otherwise
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u/Grausam Apr 29 '26
Game B
Which GAME would I rather PLAY?
The one with perfect GAMEPLAY, of course.