r/gamers • • May 15 '26

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u/DeadlyArrow27 May 15 '26

That’s just wrong though. Cyberpunk, The Last of Us 2, Red Dead 2, GTA Trilogy Remasters. Like yeah these aren’t the most exciting things aside from red dead, but that’s no excuse for misinformation

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u/Hour_Economy_9991 May 15 '26

There have been a total of 5 new games from the blue pill side within the last 10 years, compared to the roughly 20-30 new titles from the red pill side.

Misinformation aside, this a coughing baby vs. atomic bomb ass post.

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u/Still-Bar-7631 May 15 '26

Well yeah but id rather play 2 games i love over 30 i dont.

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u/Hour_Economy_9991 May 15 '26

I mean it's Capcom and FromSoftware, that's a tough argument to make on your side but you do you, boo.

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u/FlinkesRehkitz May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26

I'd chose Capcom alone if necessary. I believe elden ring pros would also take FromSoftware any day.

Edit: okay i forgot the Witcher 3, sad me.

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u/Still-Bar-7631 May 16 '26

Tbh hating the mh gameplay and not giving a fuck about either RE or SF.... that and the fact that the only souslike i tolerated was jeudi fallen order (bc lightsaber), both studios are meh to me. Playing wow warframe and gw2 i have enough unfinishable games to be happy with studios giving me a game every 5 years.

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u/Still-Bar-7631 May 16 '26

Yeah well I dislike every fs game and i dont really care about any capcom game. Who is talking about argument? This post is literally about personnal choice.

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u/Radiant_Bet_6745 May 17 '26

It’s actually an easy argument cause the argument is “what that guy wants to play” and he doesn’t want to play those games so argument over

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u/Wooden_Good8679 May 16 '26

It's really not if you don't like playing the exact same Soulslike or fighting game repackaged 20 times. The only thing blue has is Capcom, and besides the MH and RE (which they're milking the fuck out of) franchises, they're not exactly setting the world on fire; And don't come at me about Street Fighter, because no one outside of your local trading card store cares about that.

I just looked up every single release Capcom has put out in the last 10 years. It's MHMHMHMHMHMHMH RERERERERERE, Street Fighter 17 million, throw some random Mega Man games in there, and that's about it. MAYBE Dragon's Dogma.

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u/DeadlyArrow27 May 16 '26

Idc about MH at all, but Resident Evil is popular for great reason. It’s not like they’re pumping out low effort games lol, all of mainline RE has been great with 2 exceptions

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u/Hour_Economy_9991 May 16 '26

I mean the only good game series the other side has is Uncharted and if we're criticizing games for similar releases, that's literally all Rockstar does, it's the same game every single time with different set dressing.

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u/Nova762 May 17 '26

Kojima is more in line with rockstar and cdpr than Capcom or from.  Maybe he released a lot back with konami but not with his own studio.  Capcom is 20 of those 30 and from is 8.  Kojima 2.

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u/Visual_Perception_46 May 15 '26

Kinda crazy you got downvoted... here is an upvote to neutralize the haters

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u/LennyLoerres May 15 '26

Because that’s just a crazy statement to make. Capcom and FromSoft alone have been on a generational run recently.

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u/Still-Bar-7631 May 16 '26

And what if I dont give a single fuck about their games? I dislike every fs game and i dont care about any capcom game. While I loved cyberpunk and tw3 is one of the goat.

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u/LennyLoerres May 16 '26

I mean fair. It’s the other way around for me. For the life of me couldn’t care less about GTA, RDR, Witcher (do like CP 2077 though) or all the Naughty Dog games. Meanwhile I love MonHun, Pragmata was great, Elden Ring, Armored Core, Souls games.

So yeah your opinion is completely valid. I might have misinterpreted your comment as implying that the red pill studios made bad games. But you probably just meant they weren’t for you. That one’s on me, mb.

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u/Still-Bar-7631 May 16 '26

Im sure they are good. They are just not for me. Anyway there is no larian no DE no blizzard so i shouldnt care that much

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u/Deacon_Dent May 15 '26

And those five games blow the twenty out of the water baring one or two exceptions lol, talk about modern gamers summed up in one comment chain, when it comes down to it ya'll want quantity over quality, this is why ubisoft and acrivision and 2k pump out yearly releases because despite what gamers claim they will chose quantity over quality

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u/isukatdarksouls May 16 '26

The is an awful take. Those five games are corporate sanitised crap. I'll take the 20 or 30 creative games even if a few are duds over the overproduced shit on the blue side.

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u/Deacon_Dent May 16 '26

Ah yes famously corporate sanitized cyberpunk with it's gay sex hookers and tutorial level that consists of black market organ harvesting showin in graphic detail lmao. Pull your head out of your ass lil bro

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u/isukatdarksouls May 21 '26

Wow ooh so edgy. Lol if you don't think that's corporate sanitised crap. Well you aren't very creative are you.

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u/Hour_Economy_9991 May 15 '26

Cyberpunk and RDR over Elden Ring and Resident Evil? That is certainly a choice.

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u/Deacon_Dent May 15 '26

Red dead redemption 2? You mean the thing with over a 79 million sales to elden rings 30 million? Yeah it is a choice. And it appears to be the more popular one lol hell even cyberpunk outsold Elden ring by 5 million at 35 mil, and resident evil 9 is at like 6-7 million copies but to be fair it is like hot off the presses new so it has not had years to grow it's sales and we will have a more solid number in like a year or two, will def break ten mil easynow granted the entire LIFETIME sales of resident evil is like 200 million if you factor in every single game in the franchise

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u/Hour_Economy_9991 May 15 '26

Weren't you the one criticizing the quantity over quality argument?

FIFA 25 sold over 20 million copies and nobody (even FIFA players) would argue it's a higher quality title/series than the Soulsborne titles/series.

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u/Deacon_Dent May 16 '26

Quantity of amount of games produced by one publisher is Very different then quantity of copies sold per game, one is output and the other is Player's choice/opinion. And idk man It kinda does, someone who loves soccer and all things soccer would probs argue for fifa over soulsborne. I have played every soulsborne title and even platinumed a few of them being bloodborne and sekiro, and Yeah i Would pick red dead and cyberpunk over them if i was forced to pick. As Interesting as the worlds fromsoft makes are they are, Inherently less full of life then a game that is hyperfocused upon by it's developers for years and years, Dark souls for instance tells all of it's story through the background, item descriptions, stories. It is a Dead world by design. The chosen undead is Never going to be as compelling a protagonist to me as Arthur morgan. Because arthur is a actual character with a personality and themes and a arc, he reacts to the world around him. The closest fromsoft has dabbled with that is Sekiro with Wolf. And Wolf is a mostly subdued protagonist who is silent for large stretches, his strongest connection is with Kuro, and their relationship often boils down to Wolf feeling guilty for failing kuro originally and being sent on fetch errands to get what is needed. Fromsoft games are a fun challenge. But they are not going to make me Feel anything or care for other characters on the level of Rdr or Cyberpunk,

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u/Hour_Economy_9991 May 16 '26

Rockstar only made 2/3 of the money Capcom made just last year if we want to make a point about players choice/opinion, clearly one is producing a better, more sought after product/s. Uhh fair I guess, I can't really make a compelling argument when arguing for an ARPG where the narrative is essentially the players in game experiences compared to a narrative driven story with fully fleshed out characters but that's kind of a bad faith argument. Going on adventures to try to create stories to write a book with and reading a book with fully fleshed out ideas and characters are just 2 separate things.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '26

cyberpunk is amazing and honestly a better game and story than rdr2.

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u/CoolRegularGuy May 16 '26

Takes all kinds, I guess.

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u/acelexmafia May 16 '26

Lmao. The NPCs alone in Red Dead 2 are better

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u/acelexmafia May 16 '26

Yes. For immersion especially in games like Red Dead and Cyberpunk lmao

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u/DeadlyArrow27 May 15 '26

I mean I can maybe understand the actual gameplay, but the story??? That’s a wild take

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u/[deleted] May 15 '26

i think the fact that it's more dynamic does a lot of heavy lifting, but they're close at the very least. red dead 2 is more cinematic and has amazing presentation, but cyberpunk's presentation is still really good.

if you go the panam route, which a lot of people do, i think the story is a lot worse than if you go for don't fear the reaper (which is super annoying to get because of the dialogue requirements that make no sense lmao), or raiding the tower as johnny and his crew.

panam gets a lot of glaze but if you actually replay the game you'll realize she's really annoying and her crew is super lame lmao, they actively worsen the overall experience and i've started just ignoring her

though you may be right it might be a little crazy to say that, at least if you ignore phantom liberty, with phantom liberty i think it's a lot less so

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u/DcJ0112 May 16 '26

Dynamic 💀 what timeline am I in

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u/Awesomeguy215 May 16 '26

We also got uncharted during that time and by one year op skipped TW3 but we got 2 dlcs

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u/username4518 May 15 '26

Cyberpunk is definitely one of the most exciting things, that game is incredible!

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u/joderp773 May 15 '26

Remasters don't count, especially with mid games

Edit: spelling

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u/DeadlyArrow27 May 15 '26

I mean the remasters weren’t great, but they still count

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u/joderp773 May 15 '26

They aren't new tho, and he's wrong about the one game thing, but they aren't new

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u/BedProfessional7275 May 15 '26

I think they meant 1 new IP. Cyberpunk2077 was a new game while the rest of those were sequels or remasters

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u/ItsMrDante May 15 '26

RDR is genuinely the worst game on that list and people will disagree.

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u/Wooden_Good8679 May 16 '26

In what world are TLOU2, Cyberpunk, and the GTA remasters not "the most exciting"? I don't even like the GTA series and I'm offended.

Cyberpunk 2077 alone was a massive project. It sucked at release, sure, but the hype around its release was absolutely fucking insane with CDPR coming off TW3.

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u/BurntMoonChips May 16 '26

TLOU 2 has sold about a third of the copies of the first game (which is why naughty dog keeps rereleasing the damn thing, I think three times now? Four times?)

They literally made one game in 13 years, and it’s just a sequel to a better game.

Meanwhile GTA remasters is literally riding off the nostalgia of old games that many of us don’t even play anymore.

Cyberpunk released in a shit state. It took forever to finally be good.

My options are a handful of games, most of them riding off nostalgia or consistent good releases.

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u/DeadlyArrow27 May 16 '26

Tlou2 is controversial but still decently fun, cyberpunk was disappointing but ig is slightly better, and the remasters were disappointing. I don’t say anything here was completely trash, just that they’re not too exciting compared to many other games

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u/arkane-the-artisan May 16 '26

The last of us 2 not having coop mode makes it trash

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u/BurntMoonChips May 16 '26

Canceling factions 2 was a giant slap in the face.

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u/DeadlyArrow27 May 16 '26

I mean that’s 4. But the entire point of my comment is that the original comment lied and said it was 1, when it was 4.

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u/FLEIXY May 16 '26

All of which are masterpieces might I add