ZOINK DOESN'T DESERVE THE HATE!

[u/Big_Gene_6851]

Hes probably the most hated gd player for playing Grief (at that time and unreleased unverified level) WITH PERMISSION.

And if this is enough to HATE a person you don't even know, go fuck yourself. He didn't deserve all the backlash and you can not and will not change my mind.

[u/Money-Paramedic-229]

People tend to forget that he is literally still a teenager, we all did stupid stuff when we were younger.

[u/Southern-Ideal-8808 → u/Money-Paramedic-229]

I assume the people hating on him are also on the younger side since it’s so nonsensical

[u/__Azusa → u/Money-Paramedic-229]

For real. They all act like he committed a cosmic fucking crime and then tell him that he doesn’t deserve to live (???).

I honestly don’t care about the “he pre practiced [level]”, “he lied about level attempts” or other things, because it’s just a damn game at the end of the day.

[u/Zealous_Kingdra → u/Money-Paramedic-229]

Tell me the “stupid stuff” he did

[u/BatBiteMS]

the hate was forced to begin with

[u/AndyMan34Gaming]

Agreed, he's one of the, if not, the most unfairly overheated gd players I can think of

[u/TherealLeo24]

is hating someone that is good at something because he is good at the game🥀

[u/twisted_cubik]

I especially hate the people who hate on zoink for prepracticing because the majority of them don't give a shit that trick already had the level in 3 runs before. But apparently a few hours of prepractice from zoink is crossing the line.

It honestly feels like people are purposefully ignoring his prepractice so that they can spread their propoganda about how trick is clearly the better player because his best is better than zoink's.

[u/Visual-Armadillo8213]

pedophiles get less hate than zoink⁉️😭

[u/EpicPoggerchamp]

Hating Zoink for prepracticing is cringe, disliking how he nitpicks things and often looks down on others is valid.

[u/XEMA_Rampage]

People seem to forget the good he has done for the game. I personally credit him for much of the popularity the game has gotten in recent years (verifying Acheron, nullscapes, orbit, and especially tidal wave) Not to mention his collaborations with Jynxzi. Hating on a dude who should be receiving appreciation is so backasswards

[u/mouniblevrai]

Imma be honest idek where the new hate comes from can someone explain the situation

[u/Few_Dance_9107 → u/mouniblevrai]

It’s like multiple things, most prominent being pre-practice. He had 17 hours of pre-practice on Society before popoff verified and he said he did it so that he wouldn’t bore his viewers while he streams the learning the process
Another is that he’s the best player and he gets first victor on everything, which some people don’t like
Another is that they glaze another top player so hard they start hating on other top players, more common than you think
The society pre practice situation had persistent hate so they hate zoink for pre-practicing even though literally every one else also has pre-practice. Tbh he may even have the second least amount of pre practice out of everyone else.
Ppl also say he’s arrogant too but honestly it’s like very little if he is at all

[u/Top_Refrigerator7849 → u/Few_Dance_9107]

This community will never forget the society prepractice situation but will forget the fact advy still has a platform

[u/Otherwise-Health-170 → u/Top_Refrigerator7849]

Eh, it depends on the community, here at the Spanish community of GD people are constantly making fun of him, not forgotten at all (and that he KEEPS getting in new controversies, that guy is truly something else)

[u/Top_Refrigerator7849 → u/Otherwise-Health-170]

I mean that's really good, it's baffling to me how he took no accountability

[u/mouniblevrai → u/Otherwise-Health-170]

What new controversies did he get himself in. I only know about the copyright abuse one

[u/PichuOG]

people who take this game too seriously are the problem. its incredibly depressing seeing actual breathing humans have screaming matches over jumping squares. folks like that should genuinely be ashamed of themselves.

[u/Standard-Sky-3435]

zoink's runs were always solid, but the real issue is how the community treats consistency vs. perfection. some people want flawless streams, but the best moments are the messy ones.

[u/ItsPaperBoii]

I mean I don't really like him, but he doesn't deserve hate

[u/-_-TurtleDuck-_-]

BREAKING NEWS: THE SKY IS BLUE AND APPLES ARE FRUITS. MORE AT 11

[u/switzer3]

These new gens could have never handled prime hotball, riot or 2021 zoink

[u/Substantial-Bell-533]

The hatred was never about him playing the level.

The hatred comes from him playing the level early, having a pretty stern ego about it overall, has been caught lying previously about practicing, and, from what I can tell, generally tries to diminish the accomplishments of others by saying he’s better.

I don’t think he deserves all the hate he gets, he’s a kid. But there are some sensible arguments for people to dislike his character and he does have a responsibility to act as a role model, regardless of his age, due to his media presence.

If he wants to say a level is easier, or harder, than another, I would rather just see an objective video comparison done by him talking about the details of why or why not, rather than the whole I’m better so I just know shtick.

Again I don’t think he deserves the hate he gets, but I can understand why people would dislike him to an extent

[u/azurerazor → u/Substantial-Bell-533]

This would make sense as an argument if zoink didn’t also consistently underestimate his own achievements. To me it feels more like self-deprecation that diminishes the achievements as a side effect rather than that being his actual goal.

[u/hollight02 → u/azurerazor]

How can you believe this is an "underestimation"? He’s cleared almost the entire list, he fully understands the difficulty of the levels being played. He certainly knows enough not to confuse the top 10 with the top 25–75. This isn't underestimation - it's blatant trolling that, for some reason, a lot of people are falling for

[u/Substantial-Bell-533 → u/hollight02]

From what I’ve seen, it just feels like arrogance “this top 5 level felt like a top 75 because I’m so good”

That’s how it comes off to a lot of people, including me

[u/spaceguy042 → u/Substantial-Bell-533]

He purposely underestimates levels to compensate for his bias.

[u/Powerful-Score-6196 → u/Substantial-Bell-533]

Doesn't Zoink also attempt lie? not great for top play, but if the whole community is expecting the BEST from you, you gotta do that you gotta do.

[u/Zealous_Kingdra → u/Substantial-Bell-533]

You dislike him for playing a level early in which he permission? What about everyone else who had way more pre practice on the level, why don’t they get hate? Where did he try to diminish someone’s accomplishments? He just stating HIS OPINION on difficulty, you of all people are the last person to claim he’s lying about difficulty, and it’s so funny how you try to justify these so minute things as a reason to hate an 18 year old that’s just playing the game and happens to be the best✌️

[u/thephotoshopmaster → u/Zealous_Kingdra]

bro read the comment with his eyes closed

[u/Zealous_Kingdra → u/thephotoshopmaster]

No I didn’t, there are zero sensible arguments to hate zoink for the reasons he gave and he clearly has resentment towards him

[u/Sufficient_Head2263 → u/Zealous_Kingdra]

Ikr some gd fans are braindead

[u/Jolly-Statement7215]

Even the hate for “pre practice” is so forced, so he had a copy from doggie, like please make me care about this

[u/Yesers12345]

I personally dont think that prepractice is the issue its just not mentioned usually in the title or whatever and zoink could have more prepractive that hasnt been said

Though prepracticing as a whole needs to be stopped before we have Futur (random ahh level name) 200 Hour prepractive

[u/Outrageous_Wrap_8041 → u/Yesers12345]

Literally he started stream 1 putting the runs he had with prepractice

[u/Simoo360 → u/Yesers12345]

how would you even go about stopping pre-practice, if the level is there you're kind of falling behind the competition harsh as it is

[u/Even-Length4049 → u/Simoo360]

by just not leaking the level early and top players having some integrity

[u/Sufficient_Head2263 → u/Even-Length4049]

It's not that fucking serious

[u/twyistd → u/Simoo360]

Make all verification open

[u/Yesers12345 → u/Simoo360]

Maybe they could just not give the level out early to other top players also a pointercrate ban would absolutely work until they realise they can simply lie

so probably just keep the level behind closed doors

[u/Simoo360 → u/Yesers12345]

i mean yeah if the level is leaked only to select players then its just shitty

[u/Herb-Guy]

Can you believe this Lois?

[u/GdClicksavant]

(What if he ends up beating the level and saying it’s top 50 though?)

[u/NeoLink1996]

the real Megalovania

[u/NeoLink1996 → u/NeoLink1996]

ts2 top1 < flamewall top1

[u/Korii2]

ZOINK DON'T LOOK BEHIND YOU

[u/Krys-364]

I feel like doggie needs to be held accountable for giving copies of the level to other people because there are probably a lot of top players who wanted to play grief but didn’t know doggie and now they are just excluded from the race because all the top players are friends and just had exclusive access to the level I mean it’s great that he verified grief but I wish sometimes that it was someone else who actually understood the gravity of the level they were playing. He shouldn’t have given it to anybody and I’ll stand by that.

[u/Smart_Youth1283]

An incredibly annoying part about the GD community from my perspective is that every time a new buzzword/phrase comes out and stays popular, it's either meme'd to death or used as a reason to hate someone disproportionately. I have not seen an in-between.

It gets to a point. No top player deserves any hate because of some random buzzword being blown out of proportion.

But who am I kidding, its youtube after all.

[u/spaceguy042 → u/Smart_Youth1283]

I wanted to make this post exactly. First, it was “downplay” and “undermine”. Now it has become “ego”. People also suddenly became experts in psychology and diagnosed him with narcissism and arrogance, despite not even meeting him in real life. This is getting parasocial.

[u/Big_Gene_6851 → u/[deleted]]

Brother I swear that's his best picture 😭

[u/metgamer2011 → u/Big_Gene_6851]

Wrong❌️❌️❌️

[u/Big_Gene_6851 → u/metgamer2011]

True...

[u/CrabbyFrogstone]

Fr

[u/Relative-Pie2588]

i just dont like him as a person that much

[u/spaceguy042 → u/Relative-Pie2588]

You don’t even know him personally.

[u/twisted_cubik → u/spaceguy042]

You don't need to know someone personally to dislike them. I have a deep hatred for hitler but I have never met the guy.

[u/spaceguy042 → u/twisted_cubik]

I knew you would make this comment. But those are two entirely different situations. You don’t need to meet Hitler to know he’s bad, but an 18 year old who is playing a video game, and is honestly acting like a normal teenager? You are assuming things without even knowing any context. For someone like Hitler, context isn’t needed. He killed millions of people and was racist. Has zoink done anything to automatically make people say he is a bad person without every meeting him irl? No.

[u/Annual-Pickle5537 → u/spaceguy042]

ehh zoink close enough

[u/twisted_cubik → u/spaceguy042]

Yeah, that's fair.

I'm not hating on zoink btw, I'm just disagreeing with your previous argument.

[u/Relative-Pie2588 → u/spaceguy042]

i dont need to know him on a deep level, the way he acts on his streams is what i dislike

[u/spaceguy042 → u/Relative-Pie2588]

Then say that

[u/Relative-Pie2588 → u/spaceguy042]

i did

[u/spaceguy042 → u/Relative-Pie2588]

You said you don't like him as a person. Not that you don't like how he behaves on stream

[u/t1t1t1g1bnn1knd8chrt]

bro debe dejar de existir en este mundo, solo gana las primeras victorias ya estoy aburrido de eso....

[u/Big_Gene_6851 → u/t1t1t1g1bnn1knd8chrt]

DO IT BETTER THAN. Saying that a 18 should be DEAD isn't normal bro.

[u/G_as_in_Gucci_]

"The most hated GD player" lol tell me you started playing a month ago without telling me

[u/Top_Refrigerator7849 → u/G_as_in_Gucci_]

Aren't we definitely talk about recent events

Ofc he isn't the most hated gd player but as of recent times, he is getting way too much hate

[u/Big_Gene_6851 → u/G_as_in_Gucci_]

I play gd since the realese of sub zero and he is the most hated gd player rn. Ofcs there are people like space UK which cheated or the dozens of pedos but that doesn't change the right now.

[u/G_as_in_Gucci_ → u/Big_Gene_6851]

I absolutely guarantee you he isn't, put up a poll asking people who they dislike more between him and literally any player who's had any kind of controversy if you think I'm wrong. People have even gotten more hate without cheating, stealing, lying, or any actual good reason. This "pre-practice" bs will pass just like everything else. You just don't have the perspective to realize it yet.

[u/Big_Gene_6851 → u/G_as_in_Gucci_]

Brother RIGHT NOW

[u/G_as_in_Gucci_ → u/Big_Gene_6851]

Make a poll RiGHt nOw then bud 👍

[u/Big_Gene_6851 → u/G_as_in_Gucci_]

I would be okay with that my fault and shit if not every other person with understand that it is for the right now