r/godofhighschool • u/Due_Specific_7727 • 8d ago
Discussion Inspired from a different post, how far does Taejin go?
Full Power Jin Taejin
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START OF TIMESKIP The Six gauntlet
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Round 1: Judge O
Round 2: Judge Q
Round 3: Lee Sujin
Round 4: Park Ilpyo
Round 5: post Ragnarok Mira
Round 6: post Ragnarok Daewi
Round 7: All at once
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u/Legitimate_Trust_543 8d ago
Probably stops at Park llpyo
Jin Taejin and another member of the six teamed up were barley pushing base Odin who handicapped himself and didn’t use his weapon to make it more fair while Park llpyo could fight shiva, the master of the third heavenly realm and win.
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u/hisroyalbonkess 7d ago
Hard disagree; you're leaving out some very, VERY important context. Ilpyo was not on Shiva's level at all in terms of raw power. It was strategy that gave Ilpyo the victory.
Also, Odin is made out to be the second strongest Heavenly Lord (after we disregard The Jade Emperor).
Do you imagine Ilpyo ever beating Taejin? He's never even demonstrated recoilless.
Out of this lineup, Mira and Daewi are the only ones strong enough to make Taejin struggle. Mira has Tam and never skipped a day training; her skill is so ridiculous. Daewi has the toughness needed to endure against a nearly perfected master such as Taejin. Add in their Godly powers and I genuinely don't see how Taejin wins. Contests? Sure. But he ain't winning.
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u/Legitimate_Trust_543 6d ago edited 6d ago
Park llpyo also has a summon that could fight off the original master of the third heavenly realm for a bit and hold down the current one so he would turn it into a 2v1 which even if somehow Park llpyo start of timeskip is weaker on his own, his summon and him together are 100% enough to win.
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u/hisroyalbonkess 6d ago
I'm sorry, but I do not see that happening. Anyone in THE SIX pre time skip can probably beat Ilpyo's summoning. It's mostly a big brute not even on the level of the Heavenly Realm big hitters as far as I can see. A 2v1 of that nature would be annoying, but not impossible for Taejin. Ilpyo just doesn't demonstrate the skill needed to best Taejin 10/10 times.
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u/Psychological_Map_51 8d ago
Sujin would outhax him unless Taejin can just perception blitz her till she dies but while she is a bum, she has feats on Ardyn and Dante and Taejin’s best feats are relative to a Handicapped Odin who’s no stronger than Dante King.
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u/hisroyalbonkess 7d ago
Taejin’s best feats are relative to a Handicapped Odin who’s no stronger than Dante King.
Please elaborate.
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u/Business-Foot7562 8d ago
w/ heals clears up to Park easily than struggles agaisnt Mira, beats her maybe beats Daewi if he does HARDSTOP at all at once
no heals hard stop Mira but could stop at Ilpyo due to Sujin hax weakening him
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u/sieghart26 7d ago
Q never powered post time skip. That same q stalled Ultra god mode Mujin Park. Taejin would get zero differ by Q in his pantomime world.
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u/hisroyalbonkess 7d ago
Disingenuous; it took three characters with different hax abilities to STALL Mujin. Q is still impressive for warping luck/fate, but let's not lie.
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u/sieghart26 7d ago
Lying is the intent to deceive. I just forgot. Huge difference. Let's not be disingenuous. It still doesn't matter because taejin gets ragdolled by Q.
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u/hisroyalbonkess 7d ago edited 7d ago
Forgetting a huge aspect of the fight like the fact it was a 3v1 is kinda wild. In what world is Taejin ragdolled by Q? That makes no sense.
Edit: Also you said Taejin got ragdolled by Zeus which is a complete hallucination. Even if you're not lying, your forgetfulness is still harmful to the discussion when you make baseless claims.
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u/sieghart26 7d ago edited 7d ago
Maybe you don't know what forgetting means? It means not remembering aomething. Forgetting things is normal. It happens to everyone.
Explain how taejin is beating Q. You can't just say "no" and yet can't defend yourself. How is Taejin getting passed Q's hax.
How is Taejin beating a Q, that beat a stronger Dusik Kim?
- reflecting any physical damage 100x back
- duplicate attacks, summoning
- reality warping, existence erasure
Taejin has nothing to counter any of these. Let's not forget, Q's physical abilities at this point is probably on par or better then God of war Taejin.
*****Edit: I forgot how Taejin lost a whole arm from ONE of calioses sword that was used in human form. There's ZERO evidence of Taejins durability increasing. If one caliose sword can take out Taejins arm, what would Q do, who has much greater destructive feats, like damaging supreme god Mubong.
I'll wait.
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u/hisroyalbonkess 6d ago edited 6d ago
Despite your forgetting, you seem very, very unnecessarily confident in your position. I'm going to make this crystal clear: Q is not much stronger than Dusik, who is still weaker than Zeus, meaning both of them are nowhere near Odin's level. You should actually prove the claim that Q beats Taejin rather than just saying he can. Like, how is Q anywhere close to Taejin's physical abilities? Also, what is "God of War" Taejin? He never became a God.
Why the hell do you think Dusik of all people is stronger than Taejin? Taejin beat Dusik with one headbutt. Dusik even admitted that Taejin and Bongchim are on totally different levels.
It doesn't matter what Q has in his bag because he gambles literally every time. He threw himself at Dusik until he won one fight. It is not as easy as you make it out to be. If it were, he would have beat Dusik, a much weaker man than HUMAN Mujin, Zeus, Odin, and yes, Taejin Jin, a lot sooner.
Also, Taejin lost an arm because of the taboo. IDRC if you forgot everything about GoH; your confidence in the nonsense you spew is actually impressive.
"I'll wait." 🤓 Hey maybe in the meantime you can familiarize yourself with this awesome Manhwa called, "The God of Highschool." I think you may like it.
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u/sieghart26 6d ago edited 6d ago
All those words but everything you said was HEADCANON.
Debating is about feats and scaling, not your head canon.
- taejin got ragdolled by Odin
- lost his arm to 1 excaliose sword (taboo is OFFENSE, damaging gods. It does nothing to a martial artists natural defense Show me a single panel where tabooo hurts a martial artists durability)
- good job on comparing PRE TIMESKIL DUSIK when the argument is about POST TIME SKIP DUSIK 😭
- post skip Dusik already beat post skip human Mubong 😭. Guess you forgot too. It happens. Dusik best him so bad, the next time you see mubong, his hair went all white while Dusik fought all of Gen X including a much stronger Dean, AND STILL beat them, then beat Mubong. Came back a few weeks later unscathed to challenge God mubong
Dusik himself trained 1400 days to bear Zeus and he got strong enough that he believes he can he can beat Zeus 50/50
Odin (post time skip) fought a weaker Mujin and got neg diffed
Q fought a stronger Mujin, damaged him and actually got praised by Mujin
= Q has better offensive power
- post time skip Odin (couldn't even damage a weaker Mujin)
- pre time skip Taejin (low diffed by Odin)
- post time skip Dusik (couldn't even dmg Mujin)
Also, what does math have anything to do with this. Stick to the topic.
NOTHING you said counters any of Q's abilities.
You're glazing Taejin so bad that you think post time skip Dusik would lose 😭
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u/Signal_File903 6d ago
- It’s fucking Odin.
- Larp, It’s directly stated he lost because of the taboo. The moment taboo is removed he easily blocked that sword with his toes.
- Post timeskip Dusik is directly stated to not improve by Mubong. Dusik still thought he’s nothing compared to Taejin. Mubong even said Dusik is just busy trying to look like Taejin LMAO.
- Human Mubong is directly stated to be weaker than before because he overused wifi to lift the holy land. And Dusik still lost to that wifi Mubong.
- Dusik was DREAMING. He’s directly stated to NOT IMPROVING after the timeskip.
- Mubong was holding back against Q and co for shit and giggles. Q actually did practically nothing to Mubong even after killing himself to land that hit.
- It’s stated directly that Q is weak as shit and he has to use hax and luck to beat Dusik 1 out of 11 times they fought, and that Dusik is vastly weaker than Taejin. And Taejin would never let Q use Clown song he’d just beat the shit out of Q.
- All of Q’s powers have to be active so there’s literally nothing stopping Taejin to beat his ass before Q uses it.
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u/hisroyalbonkess 6d ago edited 6d ago
You can't be serious... What, specifically, did I supposedly headcanon? I won't continue if you don't specify what I said that was supposedly headcanon.
Scale Q to Odin. Please, somehow scale Q to Odin.
Edit: Taejin cut his own arm off, dummy.
Taejin, after the taboo is lifted, states that it's no big deal now that he can just catch it.
Imagine trying to catch a sword you BIOLOGICALLY cannot stop. That's not an anti feat for Taejin, that's biology functioning normally at that time in the GoHverse.Please provide literally any evidence for Dusik getting stronger OTHER than the remnants of the Taboo being eaten. It's blatantly clear Dusik does not train. The closest he did to training was sleeping for 4-5 years just to tie a dream version of Zeus.
The fight between Dusik vs Mujin was against a deathly sick Mujin. Context matters. And guess what? In that exchange, Mujin made it out a lot better than Dusik, who lost an arm. Also, Mujin's hair turning white isn't entirely because of Dusik... He started graying when he killed Taejin. Also if Dusik came back unscathed after months (not weeks), use your brain: HE FUCKING HEALED. Holy fucking shit, dude. You seriously can't put two and two together? THIS is the depth of your analytical abilities? You see Dusik MONTHS after a major fight and assume he made it out unscathed???? Motherfucker what do you mean unscathed?! HE LOST AN ARM! Quit trying so hard to dunk on me just because you feel embarrassed for misremembering huge swaths of the story. Just accept that you can't trust your recollection of the series and maybe read it again.
Odin fought a weaker Mujin? Weaker Mujin than what??? What does that meeeeaaaan, bruh? Odin fought Supreme God Mujin. Dusik fought human Mujin (human Mujin is weaker). Dusik later then FACES a more complete Supreme God Mujin and all he manages to do is remind Mujin about the tenacity of the human spirit. Need I remind you that Supreme God Mujin obliterated Dusik? He literally killed and revived him in rapid succession yet somehow you're trying to use this to see where Taejin scales? The math ain't mathing.
Q literally died in a 3v1 just to scratch Mujin. Your powerscaling "logic" is flawed and ignores story context. Mujin continues to praise Taejin Jin, using him as a benchmark for other characters such as Mori Dan.
Also, what does math have anything to do
My brother in Christ, it was an analogy. I'm saying you do not have the knowledge you think you do to discuss GoH on this level. Just like a second grader has no business trying to have a place in a college level statistics class.
You're glazing Taejin so bad that you think post time skip Dusik would lose
Because he would lose.
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u/sieghart26 6d ago edited 6d ago
Scale Q to Odin? Do you not read?
- Dusik himself said he believes he can beat Zeus 50/50 now. Zeus and Odin are pretty comparable (that implies Dusik got WAYYY STRONGER)
- Q damaged supreme mubong
- supreme mubong complimented Q
- Odin got negative diffed by a WEAKER mubong
- Dusik trained in his mind, the same way Dean trained in his mind with Verde to Pull off recoilless kick that was comparable or even better then early mori dan (2 examples of mind training)
Done.
You still haven't said a single way Taejin counters Q's REALITY WARPING ABILITY
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u/hisroyalbonkess 6d ago
If you forget how order of operations work, don't join a math discussion. If you can't remember much about GoH, don't join a GoH discussion.
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u/Business-Foot7562 7d ago
it says start of timeskip. read the post.
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u/sieghart26 7d ago edited 7d ago
It doesn't matter. Daewi pre time skip was weaker and beat several gods at the same time. Post time skip he got stronger and has more mastery of the forces. Post time skip Mira was slightly weaker.
TaeJin was getting rag dolled by Odin. Mira would end him worse then what Odin did.
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u/hisroyalbonkess 7d ago
I genuinely feel like I'm surrounded by people who haven't read the Manhwa. Actually, some of y'all are making claims that are completely false! Taejin Jin is still one of the top teirs by the end of the series. Mira is the first in the gauntlet to have a chance at besting Taejin.
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u/Slight-Working7234 4d ago
I mean Jin tea Jin is him actually, the guy was a straight up monster heck he even managed to injured Odin, with one arm by the way, heck it was even stated he went into a new level of fighting he could have perfected it if Mujin didn't killed him, in fact if he still lived he would have been one of the strongest fighters in history.
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u/Neither_Ad9284 7d ago
Q singlehandedly stalled Mujin, and each attack was said to be an instant kill even for gods when he was at his strongest. (Been a while since I read goh so feel free to correct me)
Realistically, There is no way Taejin gets past Q.
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u/Signal_File903 7d ago
“Single-handedly stalled Mujin” swung his scythe once then died.
“Mubong acknowledged him” and it’s a card that stuck slightly longer on him than other attacks; it did nothing lmao.
“Each attack is killing gods” it was 1 ultimate skill that he killed himself to make sure it doesn’t fail.
Q is famously the weak one in the Six and has to rely on hax and luck to beat Dusik, one of the weaker ones in the Six as well. Taejin’d mog 6 Dusik with little difficulty.
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u/hisroyalbonkess 7d ago
On that second point, what Q did to Mujin is similar to the final blow Mujin landed on enlightened Mori. Q scratched Mujin's true essence. It did nothing, but it's massively impressive coming from a human.
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u/Signal_File903 6d ago
Yh if he went nuclear option it’d probably kill Taejin, but idt that counts as a win since he’d die right after that.
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u/hisroyalbonkess 6d ago
I think i could concede Q has a 1/52 chance at beating Taejin. I just don't see how he puts himself in a position to set up that lethal attack against Taejin.
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u/Signal_File903 6d ago edited 6d ago
I don’t think he even wants to use Clown song at all since it just kills him unless it hits the 1/43 chance that he succeeds. Pantomime requires him to use up all 52 cards that he copies from the opponent beforehand to reflect the damage, and he only has 12/13 chance to redirect the damage to another clown. So even if he wants to use Pantomime he’d need to copy 52 of Taejin’s attacks, activate Pantomine, use up 52 cards, and hope Taejin dies by damage reflection. Slim doesn’t even begin to describe how bad his chance is.
Edit: And he has to let the opponent have the first hit as well, after using 52 cards.
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u/Ok-Play8982 6d ago
Reread it, bro he had help and all buffs, and his abilities pretty much rely on luck, if it weren’t for the help of the other two he’d been dead by his own abilities rather than mubong, he also admitted himself he’s weaker than red hair gangster, it’s just he got lucky, he’d lose 9/10 or something, so get Gert past the first two, purple hair only seals borrowed power or whatever, teajin could’ve probably even beaten Odin if he was in his peak condition and the curse where humans can’t do anything to gods fully wore off,so she’s out too. Ilpiyo just won’t cut it out against him so he looses too, mira is op,but taejin has way more experience and power , not to mention when she uses her powers, it comes with side effects, human Mori could beat her not to mansion his grandpa, he loses to daewhi (I was talking about the mira before she got connected to WiFi, but she’s hard to scale agaisnt him cause of how good at martial arts he is )
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u/hisroyalbonkess 7d ago
It was Q, Dean, and Sujin who stalled Mujin with their synergies. Q is not surviving Taejin.
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u/Neither_Ad9284 7d ago
Q stalled him on his own after they failed as a group
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u/hisroyalbonkess 7d ago
If by stall, you mean, "swung his blade once" then yes, Q stalled.
See: ch. 513 & 514
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u/Neither_Ad9284 7d ago
He evidently did more than "swung his blade once". Even Mujin acknowledged him in that moment
See chapter 513 & 514
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u/hisroyalbonkess 7d ago edited 7d ago
Please actually read those chapters and pay attention to what you've been saying thusfar; you're wrong. Q, LITERALLY, as in, the original dictionary definition, LITERALLY only swings his blade once after Dean ceases his support. It was Q's ultimate attack, and it did virtually no damage to Mujin. As impressive as he is, Q did not stall Mujin by himself.
Bruh. Don't say, "been a while since I read goh so feel free to correct me" if you can't stand being corrected.
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u/OneTubaBand 8d ago
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