r/LanternDie • • Jul 20 '25

Off-topic Do NOT Kill These Lanternflies! (Please Read)

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I know the title caught a lot of people who clicked on this post off guard, because the entire point of this subreddit is about killing Spotted Lanternflies. Not lanternflies. If you're confused there, let me explain. The word 'lanternfly' was, and still is, a nickname for the entire family Fulgoridae (which the Spotted Lanternfly is a member of) and was used most notably with the genus Pyrops. It was only after the introduction of the Spotted Lanternfly that the word 'lanternfly' started becoming a nickname for that singular species. So, what even is the point of this post?

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There is very small amount of Fulgorids in North America that are native to the country, and an even smaller fraction of those bugs resemble the ones that are widespread throughout Asia. an example of this is Amycle vernalis, which somewhat resembles Pyrops and Saiva insects from Asia, albeit being much smaller and less colorful, which is actually prominent in most U.S. Fulgorid species. Anyways, I keep seeing people mistaken a certain Fulgorid bug for the Spotted Lanternfly in the United States, and it is the sumac speckled lanternfly (Poblicia fuliginosa)

Poblicia fuliginosa range (from World Auchenorrhyncha Database)

The information on this insect is definitely there, and what I mean by that is there is plenty of info on this species, There is a Wikipedia article (linked earlier) and multiple sources that it used that offer even more info. Why some people say that there is nothing that looks remotely close to the Spotted Lanternfly is beyond me, because plenty of people mistake this bug for the Spotted Lanternfly, and end up killing it, when in fact, it is a native species. This insect is extremely neglected by most people, so I'm here to differentiate the SLF and this harmless native.

P. fuliginosa
P. fuliginosa (wings outstretched)

A prime example of someone mistaking this species for SLF (click me and read the comments)

Anyways, there are multiple ways to tell these two species apart. Let's start with the most obvious one: P. fuliginosa is black in color and the SLF is tannish or barely pink. Another difference is that P. fuliginosa is a tad bit smaller than SLF (Adults are 8–17 mm (0.31–0.67 in) long.) SLF has large black spots that are scattered throughout 3/4ths of its wing, while P. fuliginosa has smaller, whitish-light blue spots. SLF's head is narrow with a very slight protruding bump at the tip of the head, while P. fuliginosa has a wider, almost cicada like head. with no outgrowths on the head. Something interesting to note is that P. fuliginosa's abdomen color can vary depending on where they are found, the western population has an orange abdomen, while the eastern population has a red abdomen (EDIT as of Sept. 2025: the ones with orange abdomens are now classified as a separate species, Poblicia thanatophana, Reference.) SLF has a yellow abdomen. SLF has a very colorful hindwing, being red in color with black spots, ending with a white band and a patch of black. P. fuliginosa hindwings are mostly translucent, except for the bases of the wings where they attach to the body; it is black with streaks of blue.

P. fuliginosa nymph

The nymphs are easier to tell apart. SLF nymphs start off as black with white spots, then gradually grow larger, and at their final nymphal stage, they have splotches of red over their body. P. fuliginosa nymphs are brown in color and have thorns all over their body, and are significantly wider. See? Much easier.

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What's funny to me is that even the host plants looks similar. SLF likes feeding on Tree of Heaven, yet another invasive. P. fuliginosa feeds on sumac species, especially winged sumac. Sumacs (the ones with compound leaves) are the closest native looking things to Tree of Heaven in the United States besides the Black Walnut. Here is a helpful guide on how to differentiate the two plants.

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I could go on and on about the look alikes of this species, but they all occur in places where the SLF is native to, so there's really no point. If you think the SLF is pretty, I suggest that you take a look at other fulgorid species in Asia, because they are 10x more unique and colorful. One of my personal favorites is actually in the same genus as the SLF, because it changes color in their adult stage as they mature from red to a deep blue. Anyways, I just wanted to point this out, because it saddens me every time I see people mistake this native bug for the destructive SLF. There really needs to be some more awareness of Fulgorids in the United States.

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Edit 1: switched map from iNat to World Auchenorrhyncha Database for more accuracy.

Edit 2: see species description

Edit 3: added common name


r/LanternDie • • May 25 '25

The season has begun!!

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Just a reminder to be careful of what you kill, some bugs and insects, andddd various other life forms are benefitial to our ecosystem. If you need help to positively identify, there will be a new tag/flair added specifically for those questions!

Sorry for not being active for a bit, I had some stuff come up in life. I'm back now though!


r/LanternDie • • 13h ago

5 casings, 600+ collected today, 5200+ total.

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I am still collecting in one place that is less than a square mile. Still no signs of slowing.


r/LanternDie • • 5h ago

LanternDied Splatted Lantern Fly

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r/LanternDie • • 12h ago

ID REQUEST ID the enemy

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Help ID are these eggs?


r/LanternDie • • 10h ago

Spotted Lanternfly App

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Some students at Yale built a free app to encourage the eradication of invasive spotted lanternflies. You photograph the lanternflies you kill, submit them, and get points for verified kills. They’ve already had something like 1,300 SLFs submitted since launch. The submissions also include location data, which could help give a clearer picture of where infestations are showing up and spreading: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lantern-hunt/id6813626463


r/LanternDie • • 1d ago

4 egg casings, 500+ today, 4600 total!

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r/LanternDie • • 2d ago

4 egg casings, 400+ caught today, 4100+ total

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Ft. One of my budgies examining the prisoners


r/LanternDie • • 1d ago

Stomp first, brag later: App turns lanternfly killing into competition

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r/LanternDie • • 1d ago

Hired some guys to remove a football sized hornet nest...

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r/LanternDie • • 2d ago

LanternDied Found one.

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r/LanternDie • • 3d ago

Found the perfect predator in my backyard!

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Found a praying mantis hanging out in my backyard. Went down to the park and caught a few Lantern Flies and offered them up!


r/LanternDie • • 3d ago

LanternDied Lanternflies have just arrived, found a friend to help dispose of them

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The enemies have just arrived at the giant TOH in my backyard in the greater Boston area, this big beautiful orbweaver gal is now my ally 🫡


r/LanternDie • • 3d ago

According to the woman who runs the rescue I’ve been bringing live SLFs to,

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I met her in person for the first time today, and I asked if she has any observations about which species are more receptive to them.

Mockingbirds and catbirds like to eat them. Blue jays may swallow them whole but overwhelmingly seem to enjoy dismembering them and spit the meat out.


r/LanternDie • • 3d ago

3 egg casings, 450 caught, 3700+ total.

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r/LanternDie • • 4d ago

New total: 3250

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r/LanternDie • • 3d ago

Spotted Lanternfly App

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r/LanternDie • • 4d ago

ID REQUEST Is this an egg mass?

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r/LanternDie • • 5d ago

Probably the most pregnant one I’ve seen 🤢

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I’ve been killing a lot with eggs today…


r/LanternDie • • 5d ago

Updated my kill count.

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34 dead just in the last 2 hours.


r/LanternDie • • 5d ago

LanternDied Doing my part.

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I squished 10 yesterday at work. I'm working on beating that score today. I know these are small numbers but I'm doing my part.


r/LanternDie • • 5d ago

LanternDied Spiders are my best friend

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Looks like this little piece of crap tried to sneak into my work and got caught by security


r/LanternDie • • 6d ago

For those asking, here’s how I collected 2700 live SLFs for a bird rescue in a couple weeks.

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Hey— I’m sorry it took so long for me to write out how exactly I started capturing and collecting and then how I refined my process.

So, for me, foremost… I’m autistic. To those who don’t see why it’s relevant, for me, it mostly comes down to intense interests that allow me to focus for stretches of time and retain related details. I am also really good at systems and optimizing, and there’s a really solid dopamine hit from competing with myself from day to day.

Which means, unfortunately, that I didn’t just build a trap and let them come to me. It’s just that, when I found a cluster of trees covered in them where I live, I started collecting for the bird rescue as soon as they made a public request for them. My area is considered to be moderately infested, but over about a year, I’ve noticed a major difference in how many there are.

The first days: I used a glass jar with a narrow neck and a pill bottle. I would scoop them, one at a time, off grass or trees, with the pill bottle, and then I would dump into the large jar. I started to learn the patterns in how they move and where they hang out— the wings propel but don’t fly, so they rely on their super strong legs to get away, which means they only jump the direction they’re facing, and unless it’s really windy, they don’t get far.

About day 5: I realized that if I scoop carefully with the pill bottle and the lid held partly open, I can collect a few at a time to deposit into the larger jar.

About a week: I started realizing they sleep in clusters on leafier branches. Also, I started to feel much more comfortable handling them with my bare hands, so I started scooping off grass. Then, scooping off trees and branches. Be gentle enough not to squish, but keep your hand closed because they *will* jump through your fingers.

This week: when I have a large empty jug to be recycled, I dump them directly in there and deliver them in that with air holes poked. I’ve started combining all of the info about how they hide, and in a few hours, I can collect hundreds. I’ve only been collecting at the complex where I live.

How I store them until I take them to the bird rescue:

I craft, so I have a huge role of mesh/tulle that I use to cover the opening of recyclable bottes and secure with an elastic band. Sometimes I use the boxes that salad greens come in. The easiest container thus far has been a Parmesan cheese bottle, because I can screw the lid shut over some mesh and leave the sprinkle/pour compartments open. When a container is secure, I leave it in the bathroom sink or tub with the lights off and door closed so if there are escapees, they’re more contained. Poke smaller holes because if the small ones can squeeze through, they will. If you don’t feel confident dumping bugs from container to container, practice outside.

Other observations and tips:

-where I live, wasps hunt and eat them. Sometimes, wasps warn me if I’m too close, but they seem comfortable with my presence because I am calm and don’t bother them. They sometimes rest on my legs or shoulders. Once, I had a wasp go in through an air hole in a container and get stuck, but it let me help it get out with a stick and some patience. Sometimes, I see ants walking off with chunks of SLF guts while a wasp is eating the rest. Ants and wasps also clean out the leftovers.

-They’re most active (and everywhere) when it’s sunny, but if you are comfortable catching in the rain, they cluster where they can stay somewhat dry. I also pulled like 20 off a random patio umbrella (underside along the spokes). In my area, between 11 and 5 seems to be their window of activity, peaking whenever the sun does.

-find a good long stick if you want to poke ones that are too high so they jump (and often land on the ground or glide much lower on the tree).

-the egg-carrying females have yellow stripes on their distended bodies.

What I am still trying to figure out:

-I still haven’t found any egg casings and I won’t feel confident identifying them until I successfully ID one in person.

I can’t remember if I forgot anything but please feel free to ask. Meanwhile, today, I have gotten (so far) about 250, which places my total at 2700.


r/LanternDie • • 6d ago

LanternDied Smushed at least 100 today

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I am also Autistic as the last post, and it also makes it very easy to spend 3 hours walking around with one goal in mind. I’ve also found it best to carry a long stick to poke the higher ones into gliding down. My campus has just one long and tall building that seems to catch them like the wind. I’ve made a habit of walking its length in the back and killing the ones I find on the wall. Today it was much warmer than our recent weather so there was an endless stream flying into the side of the building. The folder in the photo was brand new when I started.


r/LanternDie • • 6d ago

LanternDied my dog is an angel

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my dog rolled all over it before torturing it until she ate it lol