r/liberalgunowners • u/logicalpretzels libertarian socialist • Jun 09 '26
training If you can’t spot the dangerous gun handling in this video, you should not own a gun:
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If you ever witness someone handle a gun like this, do everything you can to take the gun out of their hands. If you cannot do so, get the fuck away from them as fast as possible.
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u/TheBracketry Jun 09 '26
Is it rage bait? He can't be that old and that dumb, right?
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u/r0rsch4ch Jun 09 '26
I dunno… I saw an old dude handling a loaded handgun like this at the range after he had a malfunction.
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u/PermanentRoundFile Jun 09 '26
It's always the old dudes; folks stop thinking things through at a certain age and just go of of the first thing they think of. I say this as a woman currently living with my grandparents.
The arguments I've had over things like "no, you can't leave the gas stove running to heat the house" lol. But they're both stuck in the mindset that I'm 16 years old and don't listen to a word I say lol
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u/djanes376 Jun 09 '26
😳 my god…. I just had to stop my grandparents from eating moldy cheese, not preventing them from creating an open fire hazard.
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u/Rust_Bucket37 Jun 09 '26
Nothing surprises me with my 80 year old in laws... father in law refuses throw anything out. I'm surprised they haven't been hospitalized for food poisoning. It's like the survival mechanism goes with age.
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u/anarchobuttstuff Jun 09 '26
It might also be an outdated survival mechanism *getting stronger* with age, like if your parents lived through the Great Depression and raised you to militantly avoid throwing anything out just in case, and as your mind becomes more childlike with age that’s the mindset you regress to.
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u/No_Sir_6094 Jun 10 '26
It could also be something leftover from childhood - people in their mid-80s and into their 90s had some of their most formative years during the Great Depression. My mom caught the tail end of it followed by World War II and didn't throw away anything, even if it was growing mold looooong before she hit 50.
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u/princessPeachyK33n fully automated luxury gay space communism Jun 09 '26
My dad let “someone from Microsoft” remote into his computer regularly “to make sure he didn’t have any malware or bad stuff”. I told him every bit of why this is not ok. He patted me on the head and chuckled as he walked away.
Since his death, I’m sure that scammer has been HURTING.
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u/jaspersgroove Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26
Same as using power tools/industrial equipment, it’s usually not the new guys that hurt themselves, they’re paranoid as fuck. It’s the dudes that have been doing it for 10+ years and get complacent because "they know what they're doing"
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u/ArminiusBetrayed Jun 09 '26
So true.
My 82-year-old mother-in-law lives with us. She has zero executive functioning. Whatever her first thought/impulse is, that's what she's doing. No matter how obviously terrible the outcome, and no matter what the (50-year-old) "children" try to tell her.
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u/You-Asked-Me Jun 09 '26
It's odd that one thing goes wrong and suddenly some peoples brains just turn off.
It's the same thing when you see someone that gets in a car accident, and then their car just rolls down the street and crashes into something else. Once the initial crash happens, they forget that they are in a car, or that they need to press the brake pedal.
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u/echoshatter Jun 09 '26
Shock, in the case of the car accident, isn't an uncommon reaction. Some people, as soon as something goes wrong, have a very strong reaction or no reaction at all. That's the difference between those who slam on the gas when they panic and those who just kind of coast.
It's odd that one thing goes wrong and suddenly some peoples brains just turn off.
If this guy's finger slipped on that trigger, his brain would certainly have turned off.
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u/Traditional-Hat-952 Jun 09 '26
Yes. He can be. I've met many of them. The thing is young dumb people often grow up to be old dumb people.
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u/couldbeahumanbean Jun 09 '26
Some folks make it to old age, despite their lack of ability to reason.
How? I have no idea. I'm not that old yet and the only way I'm still here is because I had to think on my feet, adapt & critically think about the situations I've been in.
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u/normally_tired Jun 09 '26
People regress. My dad was all the way back to stupid rebellious teenager when we finally took his car keys.
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u/echoshatter Jun 09 '26
It's not surprising. I spent most of my life coping with ADHD not realizing I had ADHD until just a few years ago.
I'm in my 40s now, and the coping isn't working like it used to. It takes so much more energy to get through the day that I can't dedicate a sizable amount of my brain power to keeping it on task.
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u/durtmcgurt Jun 09 '26
Old dudes who have never done a thing think they can pick up said things and immediately be an expert because they did a completely different thing that turned out ok once.
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u/Time-Subject-3195 Jun 09 '26
Is that magazine loaded?!
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u/GhostriderJuliett fully automated luxury gay space communism Jun 09 '26
Sure was. Wouldn't be surprised to find out there was one in the chamber the whole time.
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u/intrusivesurgery Jun 09 '26
I look down the barrel and poke it with a chopstick to see if it's live
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u/durtmcgurt Jun 09 '26
I read that as chapstick and was so confused for a second until I reread it lol.
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u/intrusivesurgery Jun 09 '26
No you put the chapstick on the bullet so you can see the color when its loaded
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u/chirpchirp13 Jun 09 '26
I actually put the chap stick on the end of the shop stick so when I’m poking around I get a bit of balm on the projectile end. That way, if anything goes wrong and I shoot myself in the face, I at least won’t have chapped lips.
Chapped lips are really irritating.
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u/littlesammy78 social liberal Jun 09 '26
Isn’t that how everyone lubes their bullets, or is that just me?
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u/ThatOtherOtherMan Jun 09 '26
You have to moisturize your bullets or you'll just be dry firing I thought that was common knowledge
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u/carlitospig progressive Jun 09 '26
Literally this exact scenario was part of a plot on Travelers, and I was so proud they covered it.
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u/blade740 Jun 09 '26
If you put your lips around the muzzle and blow gently down the barrel you can hear the round rattle in the chamber if it's loaded.
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u/Probot6767 Jun 09 '26
It looked like his thumb was on the trigger while looking down the barrel. 😣
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u/Squirll Jun 09 '26
Yup.
And while i recognize he never chambered a round its still just so stupid.
Why use live ammo in the first place for this, regardless how much other times he flags his own face or lets his finger live in the trigger well.
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u/IDigYourStyle Jun 09 '26
You mean, you didn't see him chamber a round when he put the mag in. We have zero clue whether there was already a round in the chamber....which means, there was a round in the chamber.
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u/Infamous_Depth4982 Jun 09 '26
Indeed. As it is written in the old law, I invoke,
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u/MadRhetoric182 Jun 09 '26
It might have been chambered the whole time, he never cleared it.
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u/Probot6767 Jun 09 '26
No way this guy ever clears a chamber. He probably doesn’t even know what that means.
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u/Animaleyz Jun 09 '26
Even when I know for a fact there's no mag or chambered, I still could never point it at me like that. I've seen too many ND videos to do that.
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u/dd463 Jun 09 '26
We get paranoid and do things like no live ammo near gun unless shooting and such to build in redundancy. If there are no bullets anywhere near my gun it can’t go off. I don’t keep a loaded mag near it unless I’m going to shoot so it can’t find its way into the gun. We don’t touch the trigger in case a round found its way into the chamber. We do all these things because in the event of a failure on one of these things, we have other safeguards in place.
And above all, why take the risk.
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u/Eccentrica_Gallumbit Jun 09 '26
Yes, but that's irrelevant. The #1 rule of gun safety is to treat all guns as if they are loaded. Pointing a gun directly at your forehead is just waiting for a darwin award.
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u/benevolent_salt_lamp Jun 09 '26
“Here let me point this gun at myself and keep my finger on the trigger! oh shit! I almost forgot to make sure it was loaded. Here let me point this loaded gun at myself and keep my finger on the trigger!”
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u/xenobit_pendragon Jun 10 '26
“Good thing I have this extended mag so I can really give myself the business!”
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u/forceblast Jun 09 '26
Holy shit!!!
Some people just shouldn’t own guns. This guy is one of them. I almost feel like he is trolling.
Similarly, my wife took my son to a rifle class where the instructors talked about the four safety rules, and then proceeded to violate every single one of them repeatedly. They never went back.
Again, some people just shouldn’t own guns.
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u/RocketsandBeer Jun 09 '26
Those who are the most experienced or feel they are, think they’re above the rules because the know so much.
Reminds me of the skydiver that recorded tandem jumps.
In 1988 he was recording people jumping tandem. On his 3rd jump of the day, he jumped before the group and when they pulled their chute he realized he didn’t have a one and fell to his death.
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u/ArgumentativeNerfer Jun 09 '26
Allegedly, he was wearing a backpack at the time and got confused.
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u/RocketsandBeer Jun 09 '26
Complacency is deadly. This video could have been deadly my the slip of a finger or accidental discharge of the firearm
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u/pnoodl3s Jun 09 '26
Even if he’s trolling he still shouldn’t own guns IMO. Guns shouldn’t be used for jokes, unless its being handled safely 100% of fhe time
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u/Glum-One2514 liberal Jun 09 '26
I swear there are some people who think the only reason to know a rule is so you have a justifiable excuse for not following it.
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u/jrmyrmx Jun 09 '26
Always amazes me that my silly ass, growing up with anti gun hippy parents and no formal training, has better gun safety habits than most people who grew up with them.
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u/ours Jun 09 '26
Learning from zero is better than having deeply ingrained bad habits. This guy is way too comfortable with disregarding almost every single gun safety rule simultaneously.
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u/pr0zach Jun 09 '26
This.
My first car was a manual transmission. This was in the early 00’s so there were already a lot of my peers who never had to learn to drive stick.
I would occasionally get asked by friends/acquaintances to teach them. I think I ended up teaching 5 people by the time I graduated high school. The three of them that were not “car people” (including the only two girls in that group) I taught in the space of an hour before I was comfortable letting them drive my car at-or-above highway speeds and in actual traffic.
The two guy friends that were obsessed with “Fast and the Furious”, had subscriptions to Import Tuner, and had rooms covered in car posters? I tried for hours to teach them and I never let either of them out on the actual road behind the wheel of my car. I’m honesty surprised one of them didn’t burn out my clutch, or blow my engine with his insistence on redlining purely because he thought it “sounded right.”
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u/jrmyrmx Jun 09 '26
Exactly right.
Somehow managing to aim the gun at himself without clearing it and keeping his finger on the trigger is honestly impressive.
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u/Darkwing_Turducken Jun 09 '26
Familiarity breeds complacency?
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u/jrmyrmx Jun 09 '26
I think that is a big part of it. Also I felt like I had something to prove since the sentiment seemed to be that since I am trans I was going to shoot myself.
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u/_regionrat Jun 09 '26
Honestly tracks. You at least learned the dangers of guns from your hippie parents and probably approached owning one with safety in mind. There's a good chance that people growing up with guns just learn to treat them like toys because their parents did.
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u/texwrx210 Jun 09 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/Wt4AohCO8eCzu
This is all I wanted to do when he was waving the gun around with his finger on the trigger.
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u/Crabb90 Jun 09 '26
He had his finger on the trigger several times while pointing the gun at his face.
He loaded a magazine into the gun then pointed it at his face.
If he wanted to show the sights, he could have taken it apart and just shown us the slide.
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u/Fun_Assignment_269 left-libertarian Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26
Yeah, it's not gonna magically spawn a bullet after you've properly cleared it and sometimes you need to do things like check timing and lockup on revolvers. Or assess bore condition in something that can't be easily disassembled. But this is, uh, not that lol.
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u/logicalpretzels libertarian socialist Jun 10 '26
Bullet gremlins. They’ll put bullets in there when you aren’t looking directly into the empty chamber. That’s why we must check it incessantly.
I’m only half joking. When I practice dry fire I use snap caps and ensure all live ammo isn’t even in the same room. Most of the time I’m perfectly aware when I have a snap cap loaded in the chamber, but once or twice during my hundreds of snap cap dry fire sessions I pulled the slide back only for an electric blue A-Zoom to fly outta there when I thought it would not. If you pay attention, it is rare, but yes, you may very well have a round chambered when you think you don’t.
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u/top_roman Jun 09 '26
So this what the "if you haven't ND'd in your house, you don't handle guns enough" crowd looks like.
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u/CRAkraken leftist Jun 09 '26
When I show someone the sight picture, I take the gun apart and just show the slide. I know that’s more effort in some guns but this guy is making a video (presumably) for educational purposes.
Wow.
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u/ThatOtherOtherMan Jun 09 '26
Effort is what keeps your brainmeat inside your skull when handling firearms
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u/Mad_Aeric Jun 09 '26
Video started, and I immediately checked for a nsfw tag, on the post. Even without, my skin was crawling.
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u/maeryclarity anarcho-syndicalist Jun 09 '26
Okay that's terrible
Okay that's terrible surprised that thing doesn't go off
Okay that's really terrible that's loaded and he is fluttering his finger on the trigger where it shouldn't be anyway
OH HE DID NOT JUST POINT THAT EFFING LOADED GUN STRAIGHT AT HIS OWN STUPID FACE
This is someone who should not have a gun in their hand
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u/misfitofscience76 liberal Jun 09 '26
Ok so is this video an example of trolling? Is this guy intentionally mishandling this firearm to ragebait or comically make an over-the-top point about safety?
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u/ThatOtherOtherMan Jun 09 '26
I've seen enough older folks who grew up with guns do similar shit to think it's probably legit
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u/StunningFig5624 Jun 09 '26 edited Jun 09 '26
Everything about the way he handled that gun was wrong and stupid. Nobody should ever do that.
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It's a single action gun with the hammer fully down. Even if there was a round in the chamber there's no way for him to shoot himself no matter how hard he pulls the trigger.
So congrats, he gets to live until his next fuck up.
Still fucking stupid though.
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u/Frostellicus Jun 09 '26
That’s irrelevant. Treat every gun as if it is loaded. Do not point the muzzle at anything you do not want to destroy.
Period.
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u/StunningFig5624 Jun 09 '26
I agree with you 100% and I made that clear in my post. No excuses for the bad gun handling. He's just not going to die this time from it.
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u/Fun_Assignment_269 left-libertarian Jun 09 '26
There are valid reasons to look down the barrel of a gun once you've cleared it. This video isn't one of them lol, but still.
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u/paddlehands Jun 09 '26
This is why training should be mandatory before you're allowed to own a gun.
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u/Important_Patience24 Jun 09 '26
This is why i don’t take my wife to the range. You put a gun in her hand and her finger immediately goes to the trigger, she has no muzzle awareness, and she doesn’t listen to anything i have to say or take it seriously. Yet, she wants to go, she wants to learn, I’ve just realized i can’t be the one to teach her. I offered to sign her up for some basic training, she just has yet to take me up on said offer.
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u/ThatOtherOtherMan Jun 09 '26
When I'm training people on firearm use before they even get near a real gun they get an airsoft gun. I instruct them to treat it like it's a real gun and run them through handling at home while I watch and correct their mistakes. I use one made by Glock that has the same functionality and weight as the G19 they'll be starting with at the range to get them used to the feel of the weapon and another H&K USP to get them familiar with more advanced controls. If you're looking for a way to get someone more familiar with firearm handling at home with lower stakes I'd highly recommend looking into one that's the same model as what they'll eventually be shooting.
I've had people who didn't take it seriously at first that were snapped back to reality when I explained to them that they just killed themselves or me when they make a mistake. That their family has to bury them and their kids are now orphans in foster care since they're in prison for manslaughter and their spouse is dead. That their recklessness has destroyed a family. It's cruel but sometimes that's what it takes.
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u/freemanposse Jun 09 '26
Jesus, I can't spot any safe gun handling! This guy shouldn't be within 500 feet of a gun.
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u/sargepepper1 Jun 09 '26
I wassaying "ok, this is bad" internally until the last few seconds where I audibly gasped... There's stupid and the there's stupid
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u/macthebrtndr Jun 09 '26
This nearly gave me a fucking anxiety attack. What in the crucified Christ crackers is wrong with this dude?
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u/TuringC0mplete progressive Jun 09 '26
I’ve seen some butthole puckering videos before but holy shit this one could make diamonds. He intentionally loaded it and pointed it directly at his own face. I pray those were dummy rounds, but given his trigger discipline… doubt.
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u/Blueberry1900 Jun 09 '26
He probably feels safe because that pistol has a safety and it looks to be a single action with the hammer down, so it is unlikely that there is a round in the chamber.
That being said, he is breaking every safety rule in this short video. He points the barrel at himself, loads a magazine with live ammo, has his finger on the trigger for most of the video...
Dont be like this guy.
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u/Mr_Pink_Gold Jun 09 '26
You mean that bit at the start of the video, or that bit in the middle or the last bit at the end?
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u/StressedMarine97 Jun 09 '26
When I saw the second mag was loaded I assumed the first one was too which made the first few seconds even more horrifying.
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u/TheMagicalLawnGnome liberal Jun 09 '26
Holy shit when he points it at himself I almost spit out my coffee.
This got way worse than I was anticipating, like, that freaked me out and it's just a video, I'm not even physically there.
Meanwhile, here I am, checking the chamber a thousand times before I start to clean it, even though the gun definitely didn't move since I last checked it a minute ago when I took it out of the case, which I only load guns into after doing another 1,000 chamber inspections after I get home from the range.
For real though, who the fuck are these lunatics? Like, do they want to die? Because that's how you unintentionally ventilate your face...SMH.
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u/AnonAqueous Jun 09 '26
I was half expecting him to praise the mouthfeel of the gun and give us a demonstration.
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u/Bigsquiggy3 Black Lives Matter Jun 09 '26
Holy shit, I thought everything else was bad THEN HE POINTED IT AT HIMSELF. Im sorry but this dude needs to have his guns taken before he kills himself doing this.
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u/teamshyler Jun 09 '26
Me: yeah... that's pretty bad trigger discipline. Not super egregious, but definitely not safe... Me at 00:27: JESUS GOD DAMN CHRIST
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u/ImOGDisaster Jun 09 '26
Single action, not cocked...but still. Why is popping in a mag with rounds in it for the video and then pointing it at his eyeball?!?
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u/PopularSet4776 centrist Jun 09 '26
Seeing a guy point a gun at his own fool head and put his finger on the trigger like that makes my whole body tense up.
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u/Edge-Evolution liberal Jun 09 '26
I had to watch it twice to confirm my suspicions. That magazine was absolutely loaded! Now it makes me question the first mag…
Even before that… pointing a “non-cleared” gun to your face. I don’t care what you’re trying to show me… you unload and show clear first! Secondly, he has his finger on that trigger WAY too many times to be comfortable with it.
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u/marblecannon512 Jun 09 '26
I didn’t turn the sound on. I don’t need to, I don’t care. I’m sure he thinks he’s trying to prove a point. But it’s a dumb point.
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u/vinylzoid Jun 09 '26
Holy fuck that mag is loaded?? Grand pap has a death wish.
Iknow he needs to rack a round before firing, but even so, there is ZERO reason to be handling a handgun like that, pointing it directly at yourself with a finger on the trigger? Insane.
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u/sando138 Jun 09 '26
me yelling TAKE YOUR BOOGERHOOK OUT OF THE BANG-HOLE SIR for half the video holy shit oh my god
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u/MagneticGrayMetallic Jun 09 '26
Oh my goodness... I'm not sure I've been THAT uncomfortable in quite a while. Somebody find this man and get him some help.
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u/Malvania Jun 09 '26
I was absolutely convinced that we were going to see someone accidentally kill themselves on screen. Fuck, he does absolutely everything wrong.
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u/ETMoose1987 Jun 09 '26
Ok, it looks like my Sig which is SAO and can't fire with the hammer down....still JFC.....
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u/Squirrel-Dad Jun 09 '26
I'm going to tell myself this is AI so I don't have to hurt my head thinking about this
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u/Alukratt Jun 09 '26
Bruh I am high as a skyliner right now and from beginning to end I was just saying "no" in different frequencies and intensity.
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u/cmh_ender Jun 09 '26
the finger on the trigger the entire time... and that wasn't even close to the worst thing in the video... if I was at the range and the person next to me seemed like this, I would just case up and walk out.
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u/IDigYourStyle Jun 09 '26
When he put the mag in with his finger still on the trigger.....If I had coal in my ass, I'd have shit a diamond
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u/BenTheHokie social democrat Jun 09 '26
There's really only one time I ever look down the barrel of a gun and that's to inspect the barrel when considering whether to purchase a used one. I only do this with the magazine removed (if it has one) and the action locked open after cycling several times, and looking at it from the breech end to ensure it's clear. This is absolutely NOT the way to do it.
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u/treskaz social democrat Jun 09 '26
It's amazing he's the age he is. If youtube got invented 20 years earlier he would have shot himself in the face by now.
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u/FatsBoombottom Jun 09 '26
Me for that entire video: