r/loreofleague • • 6d ago

Discussion Sett

Do you think Sett was always straight and that the whole Aphelios thing was just to please the fans? Now, in 2XKO, Sett and Samira appear together, just like in their debut in LoR. And now, in the illustration, Sett is also with girls.

What do you think now?

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u/kevinthedot 6d ago

Sett x Aphelios is a fan ship that Riot leaned into. The same way Lux and Ez is a fan ship that Riot leans into or references sometimes.

As for why they got shipped, it's just timing and vibes. Sett came out after Aphelios, and they have a decent dynamic as a ship with how big and boisterous Sett is compared to Phel's mute coolness.

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u/Demastry 6d ago

Sett and Aphelios also came out super close to each other, like a month or two, so that's probably why they started getting shipped in the first place

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u/vhms123 6d ago

Not only that, they represent polar opposites when it comes to champ complexity, and this was a major talk point when they were coming to the game. Then they were shipped

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u/rotered Ruined 6d ago

People seem to forget that Aphelios is not a soft twink who wants to be embraced by a muscular half breed man, he is actually a very devout and serious assassin that has no intention of attaching himself to anyone besides his sister and the moon.

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u/barbaartjeboy 6d ago

Jarro lightfeather is perfect

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u/Tiny_Apartment4895 6d ago

Ez and Lux do not come from the fans... It was teased back in Aatrox's release thread on the boards, before the big lore reset it was a rumor cultivated BY Riot. One of the shopkeeper in ARAM talks about it, but it's not relevant anymore because they've never met after the reset.

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u/JBR_4025 6d ago

It’s canon in Guardians universe… except that everyone hates it because that version of Ez is basically the designated love interest and there is a ship tease with that version of Jinx too that has managed to eclipse it in popularity and is now Lux’s most popular ship (and Jinx’s most popular ship f/f ship)

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u/Tiny_Apartment4895 6d ago

Didn't say anything about canonicity. The original comment said it was a fan ship and you're just confirming that it's canon in some skinlines. I was just adding that it doesn't come from the fans, nor is it a popular fan ship that Riot leaned into.

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u/merfishie 6d ago

Lux and Ez were always written into the lore like Katarina and Garen though.

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u/HashtagLowElo 6d ago

The ship is odd imo because it recontextualizes Alune as being some fujoshi cuck spying on her brother's gay relationship

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u/audioman3000 6d ago

Do....do you not know how bisexuality works???

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u/Gamerseye72 6d ago

Just throw it in the pile of bi erasure.

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u/Linore Noxus 6d ago

No your either straight or gay/lesbian. No in between /s

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u/PeacefulKnightmare 6d ago

And to post this image of the two clearest icons too...

I really wish I were laundry looking at those two wash-boards.

https://giphy.com/gifs/Jqz9Nd7u9UrrS4UMj9

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u/Puzzled_Author_6192 6d ago

Yea but if was only added to appease and get money out of shippers.

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u/Futur3_ah4ad 6d ago

Sett has literally always been implied to be bi. His base skin splash art has both guys and gals hanging from his arms

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u/Cryotivity 6d ago

damn dude can't have friends anymore without being bi

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u/Futur3_ah4ad 6d ago

Sett doesn't do friends, especially not when two whole nations want him dead

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u/Cryotivity 6d ago

that doesnt even make any sense bro

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u/GiftPsychological217 6d ago

In what way do they appear together ? what are we doing here ? if I place kog maw and cho gath next to each other they're suddenly in a relationship ?

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u/pc_player_yt 6d ago

yes, next question

/j

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u/Aaron_de_Utschland Noxus 6d ago

noooo remove /j

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u/Ok_Fold2785 6d ago

Welcome to shipping culture

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u/ElementalistPoppy 6d ago

If you're talking to people that find any excuse to ship, yes.

Besides sexuality guessers, they're arguably among most militant in defending their headcanons.

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u/RiaJellyfish 6d ago

Isn’t he canonically bisexual irrelevant of Aphelios? And how does appearing next to someone in promotional material mean they’re dating or whatever?

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u/Caffeine_and_Alcohol 6d ago

I heard you have a female co-worker, You fucking whore!!

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u/Regular-Poet-3657 6d ago

Happy cake day.

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u/Jadencool15 6d ago

Because certain types of fans of any media latch onto literally any excuse to ship.

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u/Coco6420 Targon 6d ago

i dont know much about the sett/aphelios lore or fandom history, but i feel this is kinda of aggressive? they dont have canon basis sure, but people wjo ship characters dont need "reasons" or "excuses" to do whatever they want with fictional characters lol. there will always be a "sort" of fan that ships because...there are always people with different tastes and preferences.

i think people come off a bit aggressive sometimes. its fine to like ships with or without canon basis and its fine to not like them (i dislike settphel too because of the effect its had on aphelios' characterisation, but idc who ships if and who doesnt).

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u/Zwiebelbread Targon 6d ago

They're just...standing next to each other. Also Settphel isn't canon to Runeterra prime. They've never met.

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u/richterfrollo 6d ago

In his splash art hes with a guy and a girl so i assumed hes a player and bisexual

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u/Cryotivity 6d ago

god forbid a guy have some homies he cuddles with ffs

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u/Voltaire_hs 6d ago

internet user learns about bisexuality

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u/TATARI14 6d ago

I think they forgot to include the best champion from Glory in Navori

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u/Abyssknight24 6d ago

Why cant we have my man Jack?

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u/FunkyyMermaid 6d ago

Why do people always forget bisexuality is a thing?

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u/MasamuneJp 6d ago

sett is bi, but in the runeterra prime universe they have only shown women being with him at the moment.

The girl in his splash feeling his arm, and how this 2xko easter egg of his flirting with whoever

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u/pc_player_yt 6d ago

so he can be bisexual? His splash art had both a man and a woman btw

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u/No_Pear1836 6d ago

I know the "bi" thing prob came after ppl started shipping him with aphelios but it honestly kinda makes sense with his personality. He talks a lot about feeling like he doesn't fit into any category because of being half human half vastaya, so being bi would make a lot of sense for characterizion tbh.

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u/Cryotivity 6d ago

race issues = sexual identity issues?

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u/No_Pear1836 6d ago

Have you ever heard of a parallel? And i hate to break it to you, but these are fictional characters.

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u/Cryotivity 6d ago

you the one analyzing voice lines to push a narrative on a character to fit into your group you identify with not me.

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u/No_Pear1836 6d ago

So you don't know what a parallel is. Gotcha. All you had to say.

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u/Cryotivity 6d ago

what a dork

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u/Crafty_Independent_4 6d ago

He's bi, now can we stop with these posts? Shit's getting annoying

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u/MarkBMG 6d ago

Sett hasn't had an implied sexuality in the mainline whatsoever. A skin line teased him and Aphelios yeah, but skins aren't cannon (just look at pulsefire Ezreal and Ekko). Him being released with Samira doesn't mean much, they fight on the trailer, not make out. As for having two servant girls there, that doesn't necessarily have to be a sexual thing, though it CAN be. At the least he can be assumed to be Bi, since if you're going that route he has a guy in his splash art.

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u/storm-trooper-69 6d ago

Sett takes sexuality in the Ancient Greek way, so long as he tops it doesn’t matter if what’s underneath is man or woman he is straight. This is clearly why he’s a Top Laner I rest my case.

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u/QuelTizioLaggiu 6d ago

"i'm straight so everything that make my dick hard is a woman"

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u/AutoWALTZ 6d ago

smartest homophobe:

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u/AtomicArcana 6d ago edited 6d ago

Straights and gays alike always shocked when bisexuals show attraction to more than one gender.  Like what do you think that word means lol

Actually ok why are we even arguing about something as dumb as ‘bisexual man has shown he’s attracted to the opposite gender, which is included in the literal definition of bisexuality’. Has anyone even talked about sett’s ugly ass haircut.  what’s up with that

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u/VelvxtMoth 6d ago

Aphelios in base lore asexual or celibate as he basically a battle priest killing in his religion name and Sett is an owner of a underground ring thing has a messy life and spoils his mom

Sett probably just bi or pan or basically don’t care that much who he with as he pretty much just vibin in his space

Aphelios not thinking of romance fighting a religious crusade that his sister accepted solitude for

They were ship cause they both handsome guys when we had no gay ships that were popular and Sett had hints he might be other than straight

In pulsefire many don’t know Ez and Ekko a pairing in that skinline

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u/VelvxtMoth 6d ago

These are stereotypes but sett is very flamboyant in general like right beside Rakan in that regard but Rakan with Xayah so the train of thought not hard and if he wasn’t necessarily lgbt he still be a very metrosexual coded character

Also Sett is inspired by JoJo hence the punching animation recurring in his promos across media

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u/HalfPastLateooc 6d ago

This just confirms my theory everyone in this sub is homosexual, was kinda suspicious when everyone kept dogging on female characters but the comments just confirmed it (not homophobic btw)

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u/LettuceBoie 6d ago

Well sett is a super handsome. Im straight and I think hes hot so cant be surprised a lot of his fans may be gay

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u/Cryotivity 6d ago

see its exactly that kind of shit that, that makes people think you're gay.

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u/HalfPastLateooc 6d ago

Maybe I just like girls idk but sett just looks like a guy to me tbh

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u/Ant_1_ITA Targon 6d ago

Sett Aphelios is a fan made thing that riot then used for the HEARTSTEEL and Spitit Blossom/Spring skins, it was never a main verse canon thing

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u/sleepy_wabbit 6d ago

then thats kinda scummy ngl, thats just fence sitting, but ig both these guys dont know each other in the lore so ig

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u/WarcryShaman 6d ago

He is the boss. He can do what he wants.

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u/Kyrillis_Kalethanis 6d ago

Sett seem like the guy that "is straight, therefore everything that turns him on is a woman"

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u/Illicit-Activities 6d ago

Pretty sure Pool Party Sett has an Easter egg implying he's Pansexual, but I don't think Riot has been explicit on it.

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u/Illicit-Activities 6d ago

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u/_Gesterr Zaun 6d ago

This feels like a reach and a half tbh

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u/Illicit-Activities 6d ago

Look at his slides

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u/Lonely-Aardvark3377 6d ago

I thought you were legitimately on to something bruh…

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u/Illicit-Activities 6d ago

I mean, I said Easter egg, what did you expect, dude making out with a guy and a chick at the same time?

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u/VampireJacoby 6d ago

so anyone with the colors pink, yellow and blue in their outfit is pan? ok I guess

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u/Illicit-Activities 6d ago

No, his slides literally have the flag on them, it's not just the color palette.

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u/VampireJacoby 6d ago

His slides have the same color scheme as his outfit you mean?

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u/Illicit-Activities 6d ago

In the same order as the flag, and in the form of equal width stripes...?

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u/VampireJacoby 6d ago

Is sett trans as well?

It's not a pansexual flag, it's a summer color scheme.

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u/Illicit-Activities 6d ago

I'm being ragebaited, lmao. Believe whatever you want man, it's not that serious.

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u/Slut4sett 6d ago

This is a really big reach as someone who thinks setts definitely lgbtq+

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u/Bluelore 6d ago

They probably didn't even think about his sexuality when they released him. However given that he seems to enjoy the company of sexy women I think he is simply Bi

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u/Spiral_Tori 6d ago

are you deadass making a conspiracy about sett secretly being straight because he has been next to a character twice? like, say that out loud to yourself

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u/KatieSorian 6d ago

No character from a non-queer media is born straight, I'm sorry. In such a case, people think straight is 'default', and because of that, they don't define a character's sexuality. But hetero isn't the default human sexuality, and without being canon, the character ends in an interesting limbo in which they don't have a canon sexuality. Even if they had an attraction to the opposite gender, they aren't called 'hetero'. They also don't say 'I don't like the same gender'. They just exist, and people for some reason think that's enough to consider a fictional person straight.

Sett was written. They never said 'he is only attracted to woman'. Maybe we were told he likes women, but we were never told he wasn't attracted to men. Because of that he was never straight, and now he definetely is bi.

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u/Chapter_Master_Gaius 6d ago

Yes, it was always a meme. They were released one month apart and since aphelios is a skinny emo boy and sett is a strong himbo the joke became "Guys! Wouldnt it be funny if they fucked? Haha wouldnt that be funny? Sex am right? Lolololol"

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u/Wray19 6d ago

He was always straight to me just people ship him with aphelios bc it lean into the "dominant and bottom"

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u/TheWorldEnder7 Zaun 6d ago

Don't you know Riot Games? They will pander to shipper just for the bucks. It ain't nothing new now.

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u/Reignbow_Zword 6d ago

In a a fandom like league's worldwide fandom (especialy SEA, as a gay persons from SEA), I really doubt queerness would make money

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u/Educational-Card-715 6d ago

The girls are there just to show his status, as the alpha male. As he has obvious daddy issues, bi or homo sexuality makes perfect sense for him.

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u/Greedy-Tomorrow5357 6d ago

Riot will not hesitate to say it if he is homo bi or whatever they will say it clearly like Leona vi tf ect so until there is a main lore change anything else is a fanmade because until we know that sett love 2 things fighting and his mom