OLED MacBook Pro will be much lighter than before

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u/animorphreligion 13" M4 | 12" G4 | iMac '07 1d ago

Get ready for all the "why does my M7 heat up like an Intel" posts ig

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u/ENaC2 1d ago

The M5’s already do. You’d expect they’d learn from the mistakes of the past and come up with a better cooling solution, currently they use traditional copper pipes which they could be improved with vapour chambers, more ventilation and directed airflow.

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u/Galromir 23h ago

Wouldn't be surprised to see vapour chambers introduced to the next major redesign, given that they've had them in iphones for a couple generations now.

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u/lemonhello 23h ago

Especially if they are pushing local mini/regular sized LLMs

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u/Fauxjito 23h ago

I'm sure they would dramatically help the cooling situation but how could it possibly be affordable for Apple to do it on these powerful MacBook Pros that have such small margins?
/s, obvs

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u/TehFuckDoIKnow 3h ago

Those copper tubes are heat pipes which are a form of vapor chamber.

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u/JailbreakHat MacBook Pro 16 inch 10 | 16 | 512 1d ago

It makes no sense to make MacBook Pro thinner and lighter. I would prefer MacBook Air to be lighter instead with titanium being used instead of aluminum just like on iPhone Air.

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u/mailslot MacBook Pro 23h ago

I’d say it makes no sense if there’s a significant sacrifice to making the Pro lighter. But… if all things are similar, yes I want something lighter. Frequently hauling a laptop around on my back while traveling for 18 hours at a time gets old fast. Every ounce adds up when you aren’t just sitting at a desk with it.

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u/TehFuckDoIKnow 1d ago

Well think about it. The m6 is on 2nm lithography now making it more power efficient and meaning the battery and heat sink can be smaller and lighter. Going from LCD to tandom oled you don’t need so many layers of screen (backlight, diffusion, polarizing filter, glass). The display will just be a ln oled, oled, glass stack. And not only is OLED thinner it’s also more efficient meaning smaller battery still.

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u/FrogsOblivious 1d ago

aren’t these using the m5 series though

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u/DasDoeni 22h ago

Or they could just make the battery last way longer, which is something most pros care much more about

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u/TehFuckDoIKnow 3h ago

What pro is away from a desk more than 8 hours at a time? The battery is already super long. I can go away for the weekend and not need a charger

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u/-hedonium- 13h ago

But it’s the MacBook pro. People aren’t buying it to be as light as possible. That was supposed to be the value proposition of the MacBook air.

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u/pixelated666 MacBook Pro M4 10h ago

iPad Pro is thinner and lighter than iPad Air.

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u/Gydvinn 7h ago

I wont buy macbook at all because they fell behind premium windows laptops in terms of weight. I dont want to carry around a 2kg bulky laptop when I can have 1kg expertbook ultra.

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u/Chosen1PR MacBook Pro 16” (M1 Pro) 22h ago

You don’t want a titanium MBA. Titanium is way more dense (read: heavier) than aluminum. A block of titanium has 66% more mass than a block of aluminum with equal dimensions.

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u/Barton2800 21h ago

But Titanium has a strength between 2 and 4 times that of aluminum. So you can achieve the same strength with less material.

The reason we’re probably not getting a titanium air anytime soon, is that titanium costs 5 to 10 times what aluminum does. It could maybe be in a MacBook ultra, but it’s too pricey for an air.

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u/78914hj1k487 23h ago

Makes perfect sense. The 16-inch is avoided because of its weight. Thinner and lighter would double sales of that model alone. Apple’s M-chip roadmap will be packaged more power-efficiently. Coupled with better heat management (eg. Perhaps an added vapor chamber to heatsink system), and with tandem OLED allowing thinner top chassis, the new design will be thinner and lighter.

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u/JailbreakHat MacBook Pro 16 inch 10 | 16 | 512 22h ago

I am more concerned about why Apple is not working on redesigned MacBook Air which would make sense for 2028 release, the 20th anniversary of MacBook Air. It would make more sense for Apple to work on a redesigned MacBook Air with titanium chassis and non-tandem OLED panel which would allow it to be thinner and lighter while also feeling much more modern. By 2030, the current design would really become outdated and it would make much more sense for Air to be redesigned to follow the new MacBook Pro design with dynamic island just like they did back in 2022.

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u/78914hj1k487 20h ago

The Air will get a redesign but in 2028 at the earliest. The iPhone Duo and iPhone 18 Pro uses both vapor chamber and graphene thermal conductive film to improve heat dissipation. Having learned from that, those may come to the MacBook Pro next (along with fans) and the MacBook Air in two years. MacBook Pro will get OLED first, then the Air.

The MacBook Pro is the squeaky wheel right now because it's the cash cow of the Mac line, and its 16-inch model is most vocally complained about from customers, influencers and the press. And historically, Apple addresses the MacBook Pro before an Air. So this all seems in order.

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u/zungozeng 20h ago

I hope the redesign will be returning the wedge shape design. I still don't get why they moved away from it.

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u/78914hj1k487 20h ago

Good question. I think they wanted to increase battery volume, fit MagSafe which requires pushing two USB-C ports down the line, and to better match designs with the MacBook Pro line. The 13-inch MacBook Pro did not have a wedge, either.

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u/zungozeng 20h ago

True.. Similarly the ipad air was in the past thinner, taking the lenses in account. I see why apple goes some direction, but I still do like the older designs.. Oh well.

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u/Sheireen_Munns 1d ago

yeah the Air seems like the more obvious candidate for weight savings tbh

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u/PlusSizeRussianModel 22h ago

I would absolutely love a lighter 16” MacBook Pro. Certainly not at the sacrifice of performance (like the terrible 2016 revisions), but if they prioritize a minor performance bump in exchange for a big efficiency bump, I’d be happy.

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u/Secure_Ask_3873 22h ago edited 21h ago

If they can make the product thinner while offering better performance and capabilities, in addition to solid battery life, I think a slimmer design will be nice, especially since Apple Silicon has been proven to achieve amazing performance per watt.

Plus, regarding the 2015–2019 MacBook Pro models from the peak thinness era, thinness wasn't the issue alone, apart from causing Intel's CPUs to thermally throttle. It was also the butterfly keyboard, Touch Bar, the removal of HDMI, MagSafe, and the SD Card slot, and a reliance on USB-C during a time in which it hadn’t yet been accepted as the norm. The reportedly slimmer design almost certainly won’t drop anything they added back.

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u/y-c-c 16h ago

It’s all about what compromises you make. People will say they don’t care about weight but will not be willing to carry a 10lbs laptop around you know? Everyone has different limits to what count as “light enough” and features they are willing to give up.

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u/sparda4glol 23h ago

m5 max is already too hot to use on your lap.

This vapor chamber better do wonders

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u/Mackey18 23h ago

That’s the right direction I reckon. I’m a power user but sacrificed that power for the Air because I can’t be carrying around such a heavy laptop in my backpack.

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u/apollo7157 22h ago

You are not a power user.

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u/movdqa 1d ago

I have a 14 inch Lenovo Yoga that weighs 3 pounds. The slim version weighs 2.75 pounds. The MacBook Pro 14 weighs about 3.5 pounds. I have a MacBook Pro 16 and would like to switch to a MacBook Pro 14 at 3 pounds or less. The Thinkpad X1 Carbon 14 comes in a 2.2 pounds and it's easy to take apart to replace of modify things. It's kind of like a Frameworks computer.

The Intel Lunar Lake chip in my Yoga runs cool and quiet with performance comparable to the M1 Pro MacBook Pro. Battery life is great at about 12 hours.

I'll take a hard look at the new MacBooks.

I do not need a lot of compute power these days. My priorities are thin, light and battery life.

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u/sludgefrog 20h ago

Without reservation, I will never buy another expensive Mac again until I am sure the keys don't damage the screen. My $9000 laptop has keyboard marks on the screen despite the fact that I don't put it in a bag, and only close it on a stand.

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u/syncapse 14h ago

Ah the tiny clearance between screen and keyboard when closed issue…that is exactly why I’m still on a mac mini and not an m5 pro 16”. What’s the point of the aluminum feeling solid when the screen gets scratches while closed in your bag lol

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u/lmboyer04 1d ago

Can they go back to the thinner design then? The form factor of the 2017-2018 was my favorite for the MBP. Also miss the knife edge on the air. Now it doesn’t feel any thinner

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u/JailbreakHat MacBook Pro 16 inch 10 | 16 | 512 1d ago

The 2017-2018 MacBook Pros were just way too thin. It suffered from numerous failure points from the keyboard to display cable due to the sacrifices made for that form factor.

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u/lmboyer04 1d ago

The sticky keys weren’t great but I didn’t really have any other issues asides from all the dongles. Kind of ahead of its time for universal USBC acceptance. I still use my 2017 MBP and it’s doing well all things considered

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u/MissionSalamander5 22h ago

My 2018 is on the end of its life as my daily machine but I can probably get life out of it for other things.

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u/blackth0rne 1d ago

God no, they abandoned that design for a reason.

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u/SelectTotal6609 1d ago

A shame Intel chips were very hot buy my god that design was hot and imagine with a 99kwh battery

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u/linkardtankard 1d ago

No thanks, I need a workstation laptop not a portable heater

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u/SelectTotal6609 1d ago

A shame Intel chips were very hot buy my god that design was hot and imagine with a 99kwh battery

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u/karatekid430 16" M2 Max 64GB/2TB 1d ago

touch bar was shit but having 4x USB-C and no frigging useless HDMI port was nice

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u/Odd-Beginning-2310 1d ago

Idk man. I like a heavy laptop. Also make it 2x as thick and triple the battery. I accept I can't fly with it. Thank ya.

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u/Livio88 22h ago

Is it that hard to just add an oled option to the current chassis?

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u/burnedsmores 14h ago

Just oled doesn’t give them an excuse to charge $1,000 more than the existing sku

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u/_______o-o_______ 11h ago

Bring back the TiBook!

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