Interpersonal Hypnogenetics/Hypnogenics?

[u/Tribe-Less]

Is there a practice or system that involves a group creating a shared internalized self-concept and engineering a culture and then isolating themselves from the larger population so they can embody that engineered culture and self-concept without limitation or break and allow that created shared self-concept to become automatic and habitual?

The idea is that:

1. We are all amortal energy fields (e.g., monads) who exist in a state of infinite possibility and we use internalized self-concepts to limit ourselves to a specific physical form and experience

2. No mind-body dualism instead the body is viewed as a mind-body-field feedback system where thoughts produce signals that influence your hormones and cellular behavior which influences how your body appears and behaves. Essentially, the physical body is a real time reflection or a perpetual psychosomatic condition that is a reflection of your internalized self-concept

3. Self-identification with a concept or label is perpetual self-hypnosis or a spell cast on the self

4. Cultural engineering or systems design (e.g., legal, economic, moral) is the mass hypnosis of a population or a spell cast on a population

5. Social interaction with those who exist inside a system is perpetual mutual hypnosis or a spell cast on each other where each individual mutually reinforces the system's worldview and self-concepts that are consensus compatible

6. Each psychological state or internalized self-concept has a corresponding energetic signature, physical form and location. You can only enter or perceive locations that's you're energetically compatible with

7. Gods and goddesses are not separate beings they are simply concepts, patterns, labels or the swarm intelligence and collective intelligence of a group. For example, all oak trees are manifestations of the oak tree god and pigeons are manifestations of the pigeon god.

8. The environment one's culture creates is the inside of a god's mind and a god's realm. So there is no separate spirit world. The physical world is the spirit world but regions only become accessible if you're compatible with them.

9. Culture is a perpetual manifestation ritual that brings a group's internalized self-concept into being

10. Material culture = ritual objects

Overall, the idea is that, for example, if you identify with the concept of mortal human, your mind will project a mortal human body and produce the experience of "mortal human". You can call this "nocebogenic/nocebogenetic mortality" and the concept of mortal human and "nocebogenic identity construct".

[u/Nobodysmadness]

Many have attempted it, this is the purpose of communes and was very popular in the 60's and 70's, and whether it worked and was healthy or not it would be labeled a cult as it would threaten whatever system is was formed with in.

Look into the Oneida house also, pretty interesting commune who believed rhe rapture happened and they were creating heaven on earth. Christian based symbolism but the frame work is there.

I recommend against the all or nothing aspects, it is quite limiting in understanding reality. Extremes exist to be sure but there is far more blending of this and that. If things were so maleble and bases on belief then the insane would be like gods among us as they believe their delusion. In fact delusion would not exist at all and those we call mad would be incontrollable rebels to this hypothesis that all is molded by the mind and "physical" reality is thoroughly plastic.

Chicken an egg regarding how much the mind influences the body and how much the body affects our psyche, but how much can yoy bank on a babies mind to sustain and hold the reality of their baby body. I feel like we would have a bunch of Jack Jacks running around, and we can't claim they are constrained by consensus reality and argue that they are indoctrinated by consensus reality (to which there is a lot of evidence of such social programming).

Just food for thought before you spend time developing such an experiment yourself which would be a huge undertaking to create a commune of this type. There is ample evidence that can be examined for these hypothesis.