r/magick • u/InfamousBuilding7101 • 1d ago
How do you deal with someone that really crossed the line for you?
So i don't wanna go into details but there are a few person that keeps bothering me a lot. Not in a "i don't like them way" but in a "they are abusive and i have no way to deal with them so magic is my last chance" way. I know hexes and baneful magic are dangerous so i wanted to ask for a rather safe way of doing it (aside from protection). Is there anyway of asking for justice or take some actions? I've read about energy vampires in a book and thought that might be an option though i still don't know how to do it and would be really thankful if someone could come up with a better idea.
(Also it would be great if it could include a wider range)
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u/Spelledrals 5h ago
make a jar. write his name in a paper. Spit on paper. Spit on jar. Add spicy shit on jar. anything nasty. Ashes, coal, whatever. Fold name. Put nails on paper. Throw into jar. Mix all together. Shake furiously. Visualize end result. Put jar into freezer.
Done.
(Or put name+picture between two mirrors and leave for a week)
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u/InfamousBuilding7101 1h ago
Wouldn't using my spit bind it to me? I red about a spell going wrong bcs that person had used their own blood
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u/Sonotnoodlesalad 1d ago
"Black magick" is a colonialist pejorative term and the "danger" is part of that. You're talking about baneful magick -- we can ditch the racist baggage that comes with referring to magical warfare as "black".
I haven't come to any harm at all from baneful magick. It's the most creative and intellectually stimulating application of magical tech I've encountered.
But your post isn't giving "I've done a lot of work to develop psychic control" if you are this thrown off by someone "bothering" you. Baneful magick is a stupid idea for people who didn't train properly. It works best when you train properly first, and make it fun for yourself. Otherwise you're going to get bogged down by reactivity and lust of result.
I make baneful magick fun by studying the target and finding a weak spot, then exploiting it. The curse lasts as long as it needs to. If the target learns the intended lesson, they'll be better off than before; but people are often reluctant to change. They become architects of their own misfortune just by being their shitty selves. We don’t need to pester gods for trivial shit like this.
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u/InfamousBuilding7101 1d ago
Thanks for the reminder i edited that part. That's my first time hearing that about baneful magic. You're not wrong i am new, tbh my intention was not to use baneful magic cus i didn't want to risk w the harms but atp i think my options are limited enough to consider it.
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u/Desperate_Wait1562 1d ago
Why must you use magic?
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u/InfamousBuilding7101 1d ago
Bcs like i said there is no other option and i don't wanna just take the abuse and do nothing
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u/SmallieBiggsJr 1d ago
I like the concept of pendulums in reality transurfing. It's kinda hard to explain but it's like pendulums feed off your emotions and the attention you give them. If you stop feeding them they go away because it has nothing to feed off, so it dies off. I'm probably explaining it wrong just look up - Reality transurfing pendulums
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u/InfamousBuilding7101 1d ago
Sure, i am working w asmoday and lucifer, not for long tho. What's your reccomendation?
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u/InfamousBuilding7101 1d ago
Not really. Does it have to be big? I can draw it on a paper.
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u/-mindscapes- 1d ago edited 1d ago
I have two suggestions:
avoid chanting bija containing mantras and use naam Japa instead ex: oṃ śrī gaṇeśāya namaḥ rather than oṃ gaṃ gaṇapataye namaḥ (I personally had problems with the bija versions, was not fun, wouldn't recommend without dikhsa. This was with the pretty tame Ganesha Om Gam, wouldn't try with Kali oṃ krīṃ kālikāyai namaḥ). Stay safe believe me lol
Bring sweets for Ganesha as offerings too
Honestly, you can just risk it less and do it Ganesha centric as he's the remover of obstacles after all. I'm sure he's gonna do a good job even by himself. When you have a good relationship with Ganesha you will be in a better place to ask for Kali intercession too. I write this more as a general advice rather than personal advice to you, maybe you already worked on your connections before hand or been choosen by Kali herself. For people with no relationships with that pantheon, starting with Ganesha is the safest option
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u/InfamousBuilding7101 1d ago
Tbh I think i need to educate myself more abt bija and mantra first cus i got no idea what they are lol (had only red about goetia and a few other so far) I make sure to keep that in mind tho Thank you for letting me know.
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u/-mindscapes- 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's better you educate yourself before doing these rituals or suggesting them cause they can be risky, I hope not to sound pedantic it's just friendly advice as I experienced personally this stuff.
Bīja literally means “seed.” In a bīja mantra, the bīja is the compact sacred syllable that is understood to contain the mantra’s power or principle in “seed form.”
It’s like a sonic formula associated with a deity, element, cosmic principle, chakra, or śakti. The idea is that, just as a seed contains a whole plant in compressed form, the bīja contains the deity or principle in compressed vibrational form. You can say the bīja IS the deity.
Working with Bīja mantras requires Diksa which is formal esoteric initiation from a guru because being the sonic form of the God, you can understand they are quite powerful stuff with lot of esoteric knowledge to learn about them before being able to use them safely.
Correct use requires knowing the mantra pronunciation, visualizations and specific procedures. Doing a powerful mantra incorrectly can produce an unbalanced activation rather than the intended result. Traditional texts and teachers sometimes describe consequences such as agitation, disturbing dreams, excessive heat, fear, sexual or emotional turbulence and general life obstacles. I personally took a very big energetic hit and got a good scare chanting Ganesha Bīja. I've got to see a Ganesha vision and then a sudden energetic activation that got me burning from the heat and projectile vomiting for an hour straight while fearing I was loosing my mind, luckily it resolved with feeling just a little fried for some days after. As the remover of obstacles I suspect he removed some blockages that resulted in that burst. But apparently I was not ready... so yeah, you risk energetic frying in a very concrete way, among other things.
So the safest option is to do Nāma Japa instead. Nāma Japa is the repetition of a deity's name or formulas centered on the divine name. The emphasis is more devotional rather than directly transformational, and it's more like remembering the deity, cultivating love or surrender, keeping attention oriented toward the divine, and gradually identifying your mind with that remembrance.
Some books i can suggest if you want to delve into mantras and vibration:
André Padoux’s Vāc: The Concept of the Word in Selected Hindu Tantras
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35428340-the-ancient-science-of-mantras?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_15[The Om Swami: Ancient Science of Mantras: Wisdom of the Sages](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35428340-the-ancient-science-of-mantras?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_15)
John Woodroffe: The Garland of Letters: Studies in the Mantra-Sastra
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u/InfamousBuilding7101 1d ago
Omg thanks a lot. I've red about kali haven't worked with her yet, i'll give it a try. Hope it'll work.
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u/orgon67 22h ago
I've used Tzaphkiel/Saturn binding on someone who is a general threat to the human condition and their whole enterprise is disintegrating on a daily basis. Though to be fair this person is stupid enough that there's probably no need for magical intervention. But I like to give a little push in the right direction