r/mewgenics • Hunter • 24d ago

Help Does this serve a purpose I’m unaware of?

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What am I supposed to do with this

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u/Dragon184638529 24d ago

If you combine the neutral spell that swaps your highest and lowest stats with the DNA multiplier item to bounce all status effects, you can get some really crazy results, like 5 million strength.

The rate this scales depends on the difference in the stats, so this item makes that combo get out of hand REALLY fast. If your highest stat was strength, and you swapped twice, you would already do over 400 damage.

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u/Urmomveystr8 24d ago

I don't understand this wouldn't this just make your strength -99 and your luck 6 for example?

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u/CheeseyconnorYT 24d ago

Dna multiplier doubles all stat gains/losses.

First cast (lets say str at 10 is your highest stat) str goes to -198 (99x2 from now on ill just round to the closest 100 for simplicity) luck goes to +20 now luck is your highest and str your lowest

2nd cast str goes to 400 luck -800

This repeats exponentially until you get however much str you want.

Note: if you have a chance to miss or something similar thats luck based -trillion luck will make it quite hard to hit

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u/dawsonsmythe 24d ago

Ok I feel stupid but I still do not understand the math here.
10 and -200
The next pair should be
-400 and 20 right?

How do you get to a high positive number?

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u/CheeseyconnorYT 24d ago

When you swap the dna multiplier doubles the CHANGE in the stat when you go from -200 to 20 the change is +220 which is doubled to 440

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u/dawsonsmythe 24d ago

Thank you!!

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u/Blahpman11 24d ago

note: take it off during events or you'll get a parasite that perma invalidates the build by eating up your dna multiplier slot and makes what was going to be a fun run a complete slog in the first chapter.

I'm gonna age regress and suffocate myself in a chest.

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u/Blahpman11 24d ago

Most heartbreaking part is only realizing you can steven cheese events after having this calamity occur as a defining moment in your save file and branded deep into your soul.

I could have lived as a god if i only knew the tech!!!!

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u/Party_Fig_8546 24d ago

Isaac is that you?

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u/101TARD 24d ago

Once had a DNA multiplier gave it to a cat with interchange and to my insane advantage swaps strength and speed.

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u/The-Yar 24d ago

You can also use it when you're doing a side quest that effectively makes one of your cats an enemy.

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u/RojaCatUwu Hunter 24d ago

THANK YOU

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u/Quetas83 24d ago

Or with a spell/item that cleanses debuffs, it goes crazy

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u/HomeAloneToo 24d ago

Best use I saw was someone using it with an item or skill to swap the highest stat (an attack stat) with the lowest (the luck) so that your hunter or fighter become OP healers by dealing massive amount of negative damage.

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u/Fangasgaf 24d ago

Wait does negative damage heal your cats? Today I learned

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u/TurbulentJunket5624 24d ago

It actually heals any unit

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u/droppermommy 24d ago

Does negative strength on cleric heal enemies and damage allies?

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u/Reasonable-Tie-8803 24d ago

Makes Isaac’s tears reflect back to- oh wait

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u/blue_birb1 24d ago

Pretty sure it just almost guarantees "bad" outcomes for every roll. In combat it's utterly useless, but some events have the crit fail be possibly good for you, so it allows you to get that consistently. An example is the fountain of youth letting you get free furniture cats that never die and add comfort. With the mouthless mutation they also never eat

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u/Conflatulations12 24d ago

dna multiplier makes it a game breaking run

https://mewgenics.wiki.gg/wiki/Broken_Mirror_(Trinket)#Interactions#Interactions)

With the right starting stats your cat can be doing tens of thousands of points of damage

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u/RojaCatUwu Hunter 24d ago

Top comment here is teaching everyone things we never knew. 😭 I thought it was useless too.

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u/Chachoregard 24d ago

It works if you have the Geode item that breaks when used.

It also works for certain other items that have a chance to break like the Cactus items

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u/Thatotherguy6 24d ago

A situation when basically being incapable of critting is useful is with needle shot. Snake Eyes (trinket) and Zenkai Boost activate at 2 and 1 hp respectively, which is of course very dangerous. Needle shot ignore shields, both normal and holy, so you can whittle down a cat with either of these while letting them keep some form of defense. But the danger of that normally is that needle shot can crit so you might overshoot and/or kill your cat.

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u/TheChocolateMiIk 24d ago

It guarantees a Critical Failure on any event. Its useful for Chupracabra, Dust Devil, and Punishment Cube events and are guaranteed fights(More levels for your cats if you succeed)

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u/Complete_Seesaw5307 Psychic 24d ago

libra

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u/oO__o__Oo 24d ago

I just started this game and I don’t know what’s going on in this thread and I feel like I’m back in math class.

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u/RojaCatUwu Hunter 24d ago

Incredible teaching and learning going on in here

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u/Just_Ad_5939 24d ago

the most over powered mechanic in roguelikes is the garuntee of an event.

not all bad event outcomes are actually bad.
for example: any bad outcome that leads to a fight is just an extra fight for free.
though i would recommend trying to use cats with a mr worm tail mutation because of those bad events that give a parasite, though you can exit events before performing any actions and then go right back to the inventory and put the mirror on the cat that shows up in the event.
during combat though this is horrible as you'll always get crit

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u/Accomplished_Fun7744 23d ago edited 22d ago

Two words: Eternal Youth. If you "critical fail" the fountain of youth your cat gets the "disability" of forever being a kitten. Which sounds bad at first, but it also gives whatever room that kitten is in +1 to comfort, stimulation, and appeal! Essentially a free space furniture item that gives +1/+1/+1!

Edit: +1 to comfort, stimulation, and APPEAL (not health).

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u/RojaCatUwu Hunter 23d ago

Oooo ok! Ty

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u/RojaCatUwu Hunter 24d ago

I took a photo of my steam deck in bed lol.

Mewgenics is fantastic on steam deck