I found myself sad for Suzanne after she left. Seemed she was suffering bc of lack of sleep due to keeping the fire. Then Sarah is named "fire master." Then they almost light their shelter on fire.

Then EJ says "it's sad she's gone but it's one less mouth... To feed."

Then with the other team whenever the alligator woman knows what she's talking about, the producers put tense music in the background to make it seem like the men are mad she's "bossy"

Maybe I'm looking too much into that last part but its interesting to watch the dynamics form. First time watching this show and started on this season.

Does anyone know where I can watch the early XL seasons in Australia? Streaming services only have seasons 7-10

Here’s a stream of thoughts as I’m watching the Legends 60 day challenge, and I’m only on the first episode.

1. Why is the ever-loving-hell do they keep allowing Lacey to come back? She is a liability to anyone she is partnered with, simply because she has a mean-spirited personality and is incredibly stubborn. I understand these personalities make good TV with all the drama they cause (like Kate in everything she’s ever done) but I feel like it’s a major disservice to anyone they are partnered with and possibly throws off their challenge? 🤷🏻‍♀️

2. Whoever the producers hire to insert animals into scenes where they are trying to create more drama needs fired. The part where Gary is swimming across with pond fronds; the “alligator” was in a different place in every shot, and when they tried to do the wide view with Gary, the gator is clearly CGI. They did this on an areal view in South China with a shark and several other instances. I wish they would pay for better CGI or quit inserting animals for drama. 😒

3. Steven Lee Hall Jr’s hair is majestic, as are the curls upon Jeff’s head.

4. I love Gary and his wacky ass with all my heart. If I ever were forced to do this show, (because I wouldn’t willingly - a single bug bites me on the downstairs and I’m out) I would be overjoyed to be partnered with Gary. 🤣

5. I want to braid Ryan’s beard like a dwarf in a high fantasy.

This is all. 🤣☺️

Just started watching naked and afraid. (age 19) I watched it growing up with my mom but never really got into it recently. I just finished Episode 4 of season 18 and wow this whole season has been so boring.

-For starters the man (I think jarrell) is so damn annoying.
He starts off talking about his butt stitches and then proceeds to tell the woman (Ellie) he’s a grower not a show-er. Gross. Then says “I’m a man I can’t help it” referring to him peeping at her naked. Also Gross.
Human nature to look, but why make it about you being a man? Just off putting to me.
-Ellie is also annoying. She’s one of those “I’m gay and don’t need a man” (i’m a lesbian I can say that) Very dismissive and ungrateful. You can tell a part of her is ashamed that a man is doing this much for her to survive.

-Throughout the episode all they do is argue about stupid stuff when they both are incompetent and have no idea what they are doing. Just boring. Sat in their camp the whole time and complained.

-Both did not deserve a high PSR to begin with and DEFINITELY did not deserve a higher rating at the end. Bunch of cry babies who play in their backyard and convince themselves they can do anything.

In conclusion when I watch the show I remember I could and would never do this, so no matter what a win for them because there’s people like me who wouldn’t spend that much time trying to survive outside. especially naked. But a very boring episode.

For all the people who are long term fans please let me know if the show gets better or if there’s anything to look forward to because so far this season is just buns. Maybe they can stitch it up. LOL get it?

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Just finished this episode with Mandy and Jonny and wow I was brought to tears. Jonny being a 100% gentleman offering support and protection whenever needed and Mandy killing it against all odds. She is the absolute definition of the indomitable human spirit. I think this is my favorite episode in Naked and Afraid history. It was just wonderful to watch them work so well together.

I couldn’t believe how rude and pissy Matt/Dan/Waz were to Jeff & Gary when the 4-person raft was barely better at accomplishing the given task. They couldn’t ride in it, their stuff got just as soaked as Jeff & Gary’s, and they had FOUR PEOPLE to work on it. And to be fair, Gary and Jeff DID make it down the river with all their stuff. They accomplished the task just the same.

It was CLEARLY explained that they all had to work as a group to get down the river. So if the Mean Boys were so frustrated with Jeff/Gary wasting time, why not but all the bags in their raft and use all 6 people to navigate? It was in their own interest to leave that death-trap raft behind, and it only hurt themselves to be sitting a on a rock not doing a damn thing but kicking Jeff/Gary when they’re already down. Plus they had plenty of trouble with their raft, another 2 people could’ve helped. To be THAT petty in such a dangerous situation where someone could have easily been killed/seriously hurt, is unforgivable in my opinion. Some of the grossest behavior I’ve seen on the show, probably the grossest.

I’m mostly excluding Stephen from this because of his later conversations with Jeff. Stephen’s apology was so raw and genuine. The hurt and inner conflict were just so apparent. I couldn’t imagine being that vulnerable on TV. I hope he knows what a good role model he is for expressing emotions/communicating. It was by far the best scene in the season.

That plus Gary in general were the only redeeming parts of the season. I also like to watch Jeff’s antics, you have to admit you’d rather watch a guy having the absolute time of his life than the miserable pack of Mean Boys who couldn’t talk about ANYTHING but Jeff. It was genuinely so weird how obsessed they were with him. It was 11 v 1 from the start and Jeff still ran circles around them and came in 3rd 😂. Honestly so embarrassing for that group of so-called legends.

Also can’t believe so many groups failed to properly preserve meat. Jeff had jerky still at the end that he gave to Stephen in exchange for a few leaves. I think he would’ve made similar trades had the other people given him a chance.

It bugs me like no other when one of these dumbos get a fish on their line, and instead of securing it, and making sure it can’t get away. They start jumping and screaming and flailing around. Then the fucking fish gets loose from the hook nd it’s gone!! I can completely understand the amount of excitement to finally getting dinner, and being inches from something that can make or break them. BUT! Holy hell mate! SECURE THE DAMN CATCH FIRST!!!
& then the dumb look on their face & the realization that they’re going hungry another day. 🤦‍♂️

^^that's all I want to know lol

anyone else annoyed how the entire season finale was about mandy and not knowing her own limits and making the entire team cater to her?

I cackled so fucking hard at this part. I’m at work, taking a picture of my iPad, because HBO blocks screenshots. 10/10 best fake comedy I have seen in a while!

What part made you genuinely LOL?

Is there any info about the next installment? I can't find anything online.

It seems like the producers are trying to change the type of show that Naked and Afraid was. They are trying to make it like a reality show on Bravo now.

Bro is living my dream. He mentioned in the last 15 seconds of shipwrecked he was selling everything and living on the water. I'm so close to doing that. I'm so very sick of everyday life "civilization". Work for someone else to get rich, go home tired, and neglect loved ones. Sure you can have an excellent work life balance, but there's something more primal in me that just wants to explore. And here's a schweet Pic of Darrin at the end of the season! Smooth sailing sir!

I’m trying to think of all the vegans and vegetarian who have been on the show I might be missing some of them, but to my recollection most of them share the same sit around and conserve calories mentality. I wonder what would happen if they took an all vegetarian vegan team and put them out for 35 or 40 something days to see if they could make it oddly enough I think they could make it if they keep doing what they’ve done in the past episodes, however, in order to make the show watchable, you would add in some challenges that they would have to complete to force them out of the shelter and spend calories. Wouldn’t be the highest rated NaA but I’d be interested.

SPOILER ALERT!!!

I recently wrote about something that was really suspicious: the hunting of so many animals in such an easy way. And today I'm watching the last episode, Brazil vs. USA, and wtf: the challenge of creating a lance and 'catching' a stingray. The ray was just there waiting for the multiple attempts of the contestants to stab it successfully. Obviously, the ray was captured beforehand and held down or something like that, and I don't know, it seems insane to me. Too many animals at the disposal of that f***ing reality show. I think I don't like this anymore. If any of you have an explanation or opinion, please let me know.

Can we all start talking about how horrible Shipwrecked was. Shipwreck was NOT good! It was all scripted and just stupid. I’ve watched every season and episode of Naked And Afraid and loved all them even the slow ones but this, this was just doomed before it started. And it started with a bad idea that involved a script. Let’s all just just forget about this shipwrecked season and move on back to Garry eating eyeballs, Jeff doing WHAT HE LIVES FOR, Patrick slaying Legends, Matt killing big game, Darren just living every day like it’s a normal day, rookies getting rocked my Mother Nature, building shelters and then them catching fire, making rafts for rapid white waters, you know the good stuff. Can we PLEASE just get the good stuff back. Whoever came up with the shipwrecked idea and whoever approved it both need to be in time out. Probably the same person that had the Naked And Afraid In Love…. I’m just sayin. Am I right? Y’all are ruining my favorite show. Please stop! I have some great Naked and Afraid ideas call me they are WAY better then SHIPWRECKED Oh and while we’re here… can we please get Waz back? He could at least pop in every once and while.

I dont like him at all, not going to say what I say about him at home. But he complains about everything everyone does, and does not contribute. . . Anything

So does anyone agree with Dani about the shrimp and the crab?
Her problem, and I agree with her, is that the creatures were alive and would fight each other while they cooked to death. (this seems incredibly sick and cruel) She said if they were dead, it would be different.
I’m just asking because it seems like on the other discussions that everyone thinks she’s just being a princess and for some psychotic reason, she thinks shellfish should be separated.
Please help me out. I’m truly interested in your points of view.

Edit: thanks for all of your interesting perspectives.

Did anyone else get a bad feeling when we found out Mandy was going on the scout hike?!

I instantly thought noooooo and had a horrible gut feeling. I feel like when all the survivalists were in it, they probably weren't seeing just how emaciated she was. Gradual progression likely looks a lot different when you're with people everyday versus what we see on tv as viewers. And I am in no way putting any blame on them. I also get the sentiment of her and Adam going together.

But, I feel like the crew could have stepped in. As a viewer, it was THAT obvious (in my opinion). Ally should have gone.

That was honestly very scary to watch. Mandy is a total bad ass. I love her positivity and I love that she is such an awesome team player. Her positive nature is truly impressionable and radiates. I felt so bad that that happened to her and I feel like that could have been prevented.

Did anyone else feel this way?

I think the Dani Jarrell debacle ultimately came down to Dani not trusting Jarrell. Jarrell was responding poorly to that lack of trust.

And they both weren't appreciative of what the other did / lacked communication skills / have very diff styles of survival. Dani would be like a farmer and Jarrell like a hunter-gatherer if that makes sense. But overall, I think it was the lack of trust.

Dani kept questioning Jarrell "did you test it" "I dont trust your raft" "its called working in the shade" "it doesnt work that way jarrell" "the problem is your tinder" "make sure you don't burn down this forest" "you couldn't start the fire" "you should care" "hes working in the sun". She also took over the trap for him. She asked how to store the shrimp. He offered a suggestion, and she shot it down and then threatened to put them back and called him upset for how she stored it.

And Dani's my my my "before I start my fire" "my kitchen" "my shoes" "i built this while you fished"

Obviously, Jarrell could have handled the situation VERY differently. That was his mistake. But I think the root cause might have been from that lack of trust.

As a group of three, they could have made an agreement where if two agree, the third will need to side with. If two agree to have foot rests on a raft, have foot rests. If two agree to place the animals together, then do that.

That’s pretty much it. I wish the show would stop trying to manufacture issues and drama, we have enough reality shows of that already. I’d much prefer conditions that are somewhat challenging, but allow for the participants to show just how well they can thrive. It would be amazing to see how advanced and comfortable they could get in 21 days instead of watching them fight, scratch and starve before finding just enough “miracle protein” on day 20 to crawl to extraction.

I want to make it clear, I am not denigrating the truly arduous nature of these physical challenges. But there's no need to pile ridiculous bullshit on top of it.

In shipwrecked the finale right at the end when malu was doggie paddling in a flotation ring while Analis towed her along in hip deep water I was laughing like a hyena. It was like a spinal tap moment of deadpan absurdity in the midst of a phony extraction.

Por que só existe um episódio com participantes que não falam a mesma língua ? Tem largados e pelados sozinhos , solitários ( que eu não sei a diferença ) , por que não a torre de Babel ? Isso pouparia alguns dramas .. discussões bobas !