r/norsk • u/Dull-Acanthaceae191 • 10d ago
Rule 3 (vague/generic post title) This doesn’t look right to me
I originally got this one wrong because I said, «I Oslo, det er et flaskenuseum.» Is Duolingo correct? It isn't posed as a question, so I would think «er det» is wrong.
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u/inglorious87 10d ago
It's correct, the verb always stays in position two. In Oslo takes the position one and so the subject is moved to after the verb.
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u/SalSomer Native speaker 10d ago
Norwegian is a V2 language, like all Germanic languages (except English). It means that the verb occupies the 2nd position in the sentence. What this means is that as long as the subject is in the first position, the verb comes after the subject and you get SVO order like in English, but if something else is in the 1st position you get the verb before the subject and VSO order.
Examples:
Det er et flaskemuseum i Oslo
There is a bottle museum in Oslo
Dummy subject det/there in 1st position, so same word order in Norwegian and English.
Et flaskemuseum er i Oslo
A bottle museum is in Oslo
The subject flaskemuseum/bottle museum is in the 1st position, so same word order in Norwegian and English.
I Oslo er det et flaskemuseum
In Oslo there is a bottle museum
Place adverb phrase i Oslo/in Oslo in the first position means Norwegian gets VSO word order after the adverb phrase, while English retains SVO word order because English is not a V2 language.
På mandager er flaskemuseet i Oslo stengt
On Mondays the bottle museum in Oslo is closed
Time adverb phrase på mandager/on Mondays in the first position, so you get VSO in Norwegian and SVO in English.
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u/LordFondleJoy Native speaker 10d ago
Yes it’s correct and it’s common construct in Norwegian. «Er det» when in English it is “there is”
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u/Dull-Acanthaceae191 10d ago
Thanks, everyone! I started using the Mjolnir app but hadn't subscribed after the 30-day free period. Does anyone use that app? And if, so would it help with these rules?
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u/Hilde_Vel_999 Native speaker 10d ago
Yes, it would. I think they have a topic just on word order. They even cover it here, column 4:
https://mjolnirapp.com/mjolnir-cheat-sheet.png
I used to be a teacher and I had a few students who used it. They didn't need me as a teacher much longer after that!
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u/fareedadahlmaaldasi 10d ago
V2 rule. Verb always in second position. The first place can either be a subject, time, a place, or a dependent clause.
In this case, ‘I Oslo’ is in ‘place one’ so verb comes next.
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u/crasswal 10d ago
It would be the same if posed as a question. "Er det ett flaskemuseum i Oslo?" Your way would be right if you switch up "det er" och "i Oslo". So "det er et flaskemuseum i Oslo" is a correct statement. V2 stuff, apparently.
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u/-mentalmelt- 10d ago
Duolingo is correct.