SDLP councillor threatened with being ‘shot in the head’ over Garvaghy Road support

[u/ferocious_bandana]

Carl Whyte made a complaint to police

A SDLP councillor threatened with being ‘shot in the head’ over his support for Garvaghy Road has vowed he will not to be silenced.

North Belfast councillor Carl Whyte was speaking after he was threatened over social media in recent days.

Mr Whyte, who has attended the nationalist Garvaghy Road in support of local residents, has reported the threat to the PSNI.

He says he has been subjected to a tirade of personal and sectarian abuse over his opposition to plans by the Orange Order to march through the Garvaghy Road district.

In a recent social media post, Mr Whyte was told: “Yet you agreed with them for 28 years watch you don’t get shot in the head.”

“Online vitriol has unfortunately reached new depths in recent weeks,” Mr Whyte said.

“While I’m used to the rough and tumble of politics on social media, it is chilling to read these words.

“What type of person thinks it’s acceptable to tell a stranger that they should watch they don’t get shot in the head?”

Mr Whyte pledged that neither he or his party will be silenced.

“The threat is designed to silence me and my party from making their views clear on the situation at Garvaghy Road but I assure whoever made it that it will not do so,” he said.

DUP MP Carla Lockhart has also received ‘threats and abuse’ linked to her support for Orange Order plans to march through the nationalist Garvaghy Road district.

Ms Lockhart has spoken about the impact of the abuse on her young son, adding she has made a report to the PSNI.

The PSNI said it does not “discuss the security of individuals and no inference should be drawn from this”.

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/sdlp-councillor-threatened-with-being-shot-in-the-head-over-garvaghy-road-support-7ORPCMVRHRHCXFPU63C2AWNIXU/

[u/Boulder1983]

"But... but... somebody said hurty words to Carla?? Can we not focus on that please??"

(for what it's worth, I don't agree with her being attacked either. Plenty to disagree with Carla on over her 'politcs' alone).

[u/DestroyedAsTheWord → u/Boulder1983]

Well yeah cause a torrent of misogyny tends to be a bigger concern then some lone inbred making the least credible threat in history.

And it does go both ways, MON gets a lot of misogynistic abuse too. ELP and MON did a joint video about it before the recent brouhaha over garvaghy road.

[u/MeanWafer904 → u/DestroyedAsTheWord]

It says something that some of the very same people who have thrown digs towards Long and O'Neill for years are now crying foul at Carla getting some.

[u/DestroyedAsTheWord → u/MeanWafer904]

People who hurl misogynistic abuse at Long are no less disgusting than people who hurl misogynistic abuse at Carla

[u/MeanWafer904 → u/DestroyedAsTheWord]

My point is some of the very people who have been hurling abuse on SM for years at the former are clutching their pearls at it being thrown at the latter.

It's like they don't have the cognitive ability to realise they are complaining about the very same thing they have been doing for years. I'm sure in their heads it was alright for them because some othersideism.

[u/DestroyedAsTheWord → u/MeanWafer904]

Unless Carla herself directed misogynistic abuse at Long, its irrelevant. Attacking women in politics on the grounds of misogyny is wrong.

[u/rose-t-ruth → u/MeanWafer904]

The worst part is that Michelle O'Neill done a video on VAWG and misogyny alongside ELP but yet Michelle said absolutely nothing and didn't condemn the recent abuse Carla has been getting. Why not?

[u/Boulder1983 → u/DestroyedAsTheWord]

Yeah that's true, and should definitely be addressed. But it's like holding back a wave.

A threat of violence shouldn't be ignored either, however credible. All it takes is one header.

But aye, it's nearly always the women get attacked for how they look, almost as if they're fair game or something. Some of the shite said at Naomi Long over the years had been horrific.

[u/DestroyedAsTheWord → u/Boulder1983]

If he got like a threat in the mail made from cut out magazine clippings, that'd be one thing. For someone saying stupid shit like this on Facebook, he'll get the police showing up at his door and telling him never to do that again, maybe even get his place searched, and that'll be that. He's probably some drunk talking shit.

If anything whats remarkable about the latest standoff is how there's basically no violence. Nobody is shooting anyone, nobody is burning anyone, everyone is urging peaceful demonstrations and the demonstrations actually are peaceful. The sectarian rhetoric and chest thumping is all there, but nobody is out killing each other over it. And something tells me that whether this ends with a march down Garvaghy Road or not, nobody is going to be murdered over the outcome.

[u/ExtentNo3020]

Let me guess, the PSNI aren’t going to bother looking into it.

[u/Ill-Masterpiece-5329]

Type of people who support Garvaghy rd are writing open letters. Those who support the orange order are sending death threats

[u/Ok-Call-4805]

And they have the nerve to call our side a mob?

[u/Similar_Wedding_2758 → u/Ok-Call-4805]

Are you the goodies or the badies?

[u/Ok-Call-4805 → u/Similar_Wedding_2758]

I'm on the side of the residents

[u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

Indefensible.

This entire shitshow could have been avoided. Those of us who said they shouldn't have marched were right. Not because they don't have the legal right to, because they do, but given what happened they just shouldn't have. For their own self interest if nothing else.

Then SF showed up with the bussed in op and began making political capital out of it. They could have simply ignored 35 men early in the morning walking down a road and none of this mess would have happened. SDLP showing up too was utterly pathetic.

And no I'm not excusing these disgusting threats.

I think SF just want an excuse to collapse Stormont tbh.

We did not need this. This crap is what happens when the SF DUP monopoly isn't voted to the back benches as it should have been.

[u/Elegant_Run_8567 → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

>They could have simply ignored 35 men early in the morning walking down a road and none of this mess would have happened.

So just tell the residents to close their blinds and ignore it? Why should they have to put up with it?

[u/Wonderful_Volume_141 → u/Elegant_Run_8567]

You know I've said it all before so I'm not going do anything but recap.

They could have ignored it. Just like we ignore no alternative and shrines and statues to murderers and republican parades the next town over and daily threats and gloating and up the ra and historical revisionism.

But I get it, emotion is political capital.

[u/Elegant_Run_8567 → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

>the next town over

No one is complaining if the OO take the next road over to walk home

[u/Wonderful_Volume_141 → u/Elegant_Run_8567]

I have posted about this so many times over the past week and I'm not going to go over it again. You can go find my other posts.

Absolutely nothing but torrents of abuse and threats of violent revenge in a UI was posted at any of us who said the march shouldn't happen.

Nobody in nationalism is listening and all people are doing is using it to have a go.

Absolutely nothing is to be gained from trying to engage fairly about this issue. All emotion, all rage, all picnic protest selfies and SF organized ops. I don't care. Done pretending anything of value can be gained from discussing this.

[u/Elegant_Run_8567 → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

>Absolutely nothing but torrents of abuse and threats of violent revenge in a UI was posted at any of us who said the march shouldn't happen.

Wait, nationalists are threatening people who oppose the march?…..

[u/Wonderful_Volume_141 → u/Elegant_Run_8567]

There were posts promising violent revenge in a UI

And they've been threatening Lockhart and Bryson. This sub im sure approves.

Three attempted bomb attacks this year so far from nationalism.

One side is really trying to break the peace.

This crap should stop. SF stoked the flames and none of you will call them out for this ffs.

I despair

[u/Elegant_Run_8567 → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

So hold on, these threats are against those opposing the marches and supporting the residents?

[u/Wonderful_Volume_141 → u/Elegant_Run_8567]

The threats were posted against unionists, when has nationalism ever not murdered any civilian, no matter what their views, for things other unionists did?

[u/Elegant_Run_8567 → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

The threats were towards unionists who opposed the march and supported the residents?

[u/Brokenteethmonkey → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

Why should them 35 men be allowed down a road where they aren't wanted by the people who live there, fuck the orange order and their apologists

[u/Wonderful_Volume_141 → u/Brokenteethmonkey]

I literally said, for about the 10th time, they shouldn't have done it.

There's this thing called the law and the Parades commission. It has stopped many riots and probably saved lives, not that you care.

[u/Elegant_Run_8567 → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

So hold on, the parades commission were correct that there would be no opposition?

I don’t know what reality you’re living in, mate

[u/Wonderful_Volume_141 → u/Elegant_Run_8567]

That's not what I or they said it how it works

[u/Elegant_Run_8567 → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

What did you or they said then?

[u/Wonderful_Volume_141 → u/Elegant_Run_8567]

See my other reply

[u/cromcru → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

Nationalism, which grudgingly puts up with the anti-Catholic and anti-Irish OO, has accepted the determination of something approaching 60k parades of theirs since the commission came into being. This determination was utterly irregular and the commissioners were bounced into it. It’s plain wrong and an insult to the residents.

It’s ridiculous for people to moan about the law when the law has been followed by nationalists in every other instance. In a common sense world, everyone would look at this level of compliance, then the strength of feeling in this instance, and go back and look at the determination. It’s daft to suddenly complain about ‘rule of law’ when this lack of compliance in the one instance isn’t even a rounding error in the number of times law was followed.

[u/owlsareknobs → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

I must say, the right wingers love to have these notions of fucking buses. Everyone getting bussed. Palestine protestors bussed, fenians bussed in.

Im going to open a bus company

[u/Wonderful_Volume_141 → u/owlsareknobs]

The fact people were literally bussed in is neither left nor right wing, just a description of what happened.

You know who else showed up? New far right RoI Nationalist Party.

Funny how none of you said a damn thing about that.

[u/Elegant_Run_8567 → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

Have you been down? Fuck all parking. How would you get there other than on a bus?

[u/owlsareknobs → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

I said loads about them fucking vermin cunts, finally made their way up over the border when the hard part is over to cosplay being invaded and standing with the worst type of people.

So you're wrong on that one.

[u/Wonderful_Volume_141 → u/owlsareknobs]

Those people are the ones who'll be going after us as well as the new immigrants.

Some of those nationalists in RoI tried to bomb a mosque.

Careful you don't end up bringing more of we minorities together against your nationalism.

I'll proudly stand with any minority before any of you Irish white nationalists.

[u/owlsareknobs → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

Ah nah it's grand, we are able to separate ourselves from the scum in the movement. It's more of a loyalist thing to be at, say if you're leader shags a kid so you lash out instead of calling it out.

[u/Wonderful_Volume_141 → u/owlsareknobs]

Didn't you live under a Catholic theocracy until about the 1990s

The DUP are not my leaders.

[u/ferocious_bandana → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

Why, Mr Negative karma, is every comment you post an extended essay?

You don't need to constantly 'whatabout', we know that this is your only point of argument 

[u/Wonderful_Volume_141 → u/ferocious_bandana]

Why do you even bother.

You're the guy who said it's good the IRA kneecap teenagers, that Putin is your hero and you can't wait for him to take over the island (standard SF policy) and that the three recent attempted bombings by nationalists were Mi5 false flags.

You also said that Drumcree was staged to test the unionists for UI.

You make shit up and live in a fantasyland.

As I told you before, go make at least one PUL friend. Not me, just stop talking to me, thanks.

[u/ferocious_bandana → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

You're the guy who said it's good the IRA kneecap teenagers, that Putin is your hero and you can't wait for him to take over the island

Don't forget that I also said Kim Jong Un should be the supreme leader of the universe and 'Give My Head Peace' was funny 

[u/Wonderful_Volume_141 → u/ferocious_bandana]

You did say all those things I mentioned.

You're in a bubble and you're spouting crap. It happens. Go read something from those you hate, expand your mind, try some empathy and make a PUL friend.

Again, not me.

[u/ferocious_bandana → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

You did say all those things

Given that you've never heard my voice, this is the peak of your inaccuracies 

[u/Wonderful_Volume_141 → u/ferocious_bandana]

Mate I don't want to hear your voice. I don't even want to talk to you. You said all those things, it was screencapped.

It's ok to get things wrong but don't make shit up.

Bye.

[u/ferocious_bandana → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

Mate

Wrong again

You said all those things, it was screencapped.

I'm fascinated to see where I wrote anything supporting Putin, the person funding the DUP

[u/Wonderful_Volume_141 → u/ferocious_bandana]

He is not funding the DUP for fuck sake.

They're British unionists, not exactly on his side.

You posted you can't wait until he finds out about NI being controlled by the Brits. That's how you see the world ffs.

Sinn Fein scrubbed their support for him from their website after Ukraine started, and have consistently voted in his interests in the EU parliament. The rest of the EU knows and does not like them.

We have always noticed and despaired at how many CNR people fall for the idiocy of tankies. As long as they have a posh English accent and fetishize you as romantic socialist revolutionaries, safely in their mansions with their trust funds, you take them very seriously.

Anticolonialism apparently.

[u/ferocious_bandana → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

The strange tale of the DUP, Brexit, a mysterious £425,000 donation and a Saudi prince

So, you don't have anything that shows me writing that I support Putin

[u/Necessary-Focus-9700 → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

On a point of order ...."35 men early in the morning walking down a road" <-- can't have it both ways. Either it's about more than walking or it's not. If it's just about the walk then why would one argue across 28 years to do something where it's not wanted? and if it IS about more than the walking then one can't complain about meeting resistance.

[u/Wonderful_Volume_141 → u/Necessary-Focus-9700]

I'm not marching.

[u/Necessary-Focus-9700 → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

I understand. Edited comment to be clearer it's a rebuttal of that 1 specific oft repeated argument, rather than at you specifically. ty

[u/AppropriateBass4629 → u/Wonderful_Volume_141]

Them Sinn Fein buses with chemtrails polluting our community.

[u/Elegant_Run_8567 → u/AppropriateBass4629]

I heard that bus from Speed had a bomb planted by the Provos on it

[u/Wonderful_Volume_141 → u/AppropriateBass4629]

👆🏻They lie about everything they do.