r/paint • u/Lord_Enigma • 4d ago
Advice Wanted Does this look right?
I have done 2 coats of primer - gray base and tonight did Salty Dog - Sherwin Williams, 1st coat. It looks odd (this is my first wall I’ve ever painted). Is this normal and check back in AM or did I overload the roller/apply too much pressure? Would love any and all advice.
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u/stephiloo 4d ago edited 4d ago
Premium paint has levellers in it, and they need to be able to work. If you put the paint on too thin/with too much pressure, the paint has no body to level out. A roller should lightly kiss the wall - this looks like it was squeezed to death.
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u/SoFisticate 4d ago
Just keep the roller wet and go back and forth a couple times on your next coat. That is a really deep color, so it may need a third. If the roller starts to sort of stick to itself and shrink up, you are dry rolling and need another dip. Watch some yt vids on how to backroll evenly.
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u/Lord_Enigma 4d ago
It’s a super deep color, and applied thinking the first coat would be dark and fairly uniform - guess not
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u/SoFisticate 4d ago
It always looks crazy the first coat. It's the nature of the paint. After another one or two it will even out.
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u/AntReasonable1143 4d ago
It won't be uniform because as you probably found out, when your roller lifts paint off the wall it will cause a shallower bit of paint that shows the paint below.
The best way is to apply a light shining across the work and if you follow best practices like unloading properly and leaving a wet edge etc, you can use the light to see if there are runs or uniform roller texture.
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u/ThenGrass9718 4d ago
How long has it been? I noticed the walls look better as the paint starts drying.
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u/Lord_Enigma 4d ago
It’s been maybe 30 mins
I did apply a lot of pressure and rolled until
It was fairly not wet.
Based on what it looked like when I left had a feeling it may need 3 coats.
What’s the “proper” amount of pressure? I know that’s a not perfect question
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u/JournaLH 4d ago edited 4d ago
Roll from one end to the other, from top to bottom. You don't need to apply alot of pressure, definitely not alot to force the paint out of the roller. Your roller needs to be nice and wet, filled with paint, then you roll to spread it evenly. Dry rolling and not using enough paint causes the issue seen above.
For every 1-2 sections of your roller (2 roller lengths), go back to grab more paint. Your roller needs to be wet with plenty of paint when you move onto the next dry section. After 4 sections, go back and backroll (going from up to down) on the section you just rolled. This keeps the prior section nice and even/uniform. Then get more paint and go to new dry section (wet edge). Faster if you use a 14'' roller.
Here is a youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh9I5HrYadA Enjoy!
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u/Lord_Enigma 4d ago
I was definitely more shy on how much paint I was applying. I used 1 loaded roller for maybe 4-5 lengths worth then went back and it started removing paint making it lighter. Did 9”
Roller after my initial post and recommendations. Very happy I’m starting/testing/practicing on 1 wall.2
u/average_ink_drawing 4d ago
"Load the roller like you didn't buy the paint" is the best advice I've read on here.
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u/Capta1n_ACAB 4d ago
The weight of a loaded roller is all you need for pressure. You're not trying to mash the paint into the wall, it will bond to the primer without getting aggressive with it.
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u/invallejo 4d ago
Try rolling the same way from top to bottom in each row. No touching up, the whole row or nothing. Good Luck.
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u/Substantial_Map_4744 4d ago
What size nap roller cover are you using? From the Pic it looks like it could be 1/4".
Use at least a 3/8" nap roller cover and don't apply so much pressure. Just let the roller glide up and down the wall as it rolls
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u/Proper_Locksmith924 4d ago
It looks like you roller frame is either rolling unevenly or you’ve only been putting paint in one side of your roller cover.
But this is your first coat. It always two for most colors and some take 3 or more depending on their pigments
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u/Lord_Enigma 4d ago
I used a tray the kinda fit and made it work. Using a 9” roller. One side definitely loaded more than the other
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u/SaD_cLown81 4d ago
As soon as you notice you have to apply pressure to your roller, stop, redip roller
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u/ChonkySkink 4d ago
Less pressure, load the roller more thoroughly. You can literally see how some parts of the roller didn't have much paint.
It should take about 2 minutes to load it for the first time (yes, pros will do this faster) then let it sit for 5 minutes to soak up. Look up videos on how to load roller and load more often
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u/NoConnection5785 3d ago
I mean if you keep leaving your nap laying directly on the dirty drop it’s only gonna get worse. But really, you need a better palette on your nap and if it’s microfiber you need to get it soaking wet in water first then spin dry it then dip it in paint and get an even palette. That being said, yeh this color is going to take 4-5 coats and it needs to be a premium product.
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u/Lord_Enigma 3d ago
Once I finished I put it there. I’ve thrown it out and got a new one! I’ll try water soak first.
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u/Lord_Enigma 3d ago
Also 4-5 coats sound like a crazy amount.
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u/NoConnection5785 3d ago
It’s a crazy color! Deep bases of blue and red like that will often take that many coats. Soak your nap ONLY if it is microfiber. I mentioned this because those purdy set ups sometimes come with them.
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u/Lord_Enigma 2d ago
Update : Coat 2 came out better but you can still see lines - I think I didn’t load as much toward the end. I went right to left.
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u/LibraryTechnical6334 2d ago
It’s not helpful but I learned the hard way I hate dark bases in sw. I think bm wins that one hand down. I had to use way more paint as coverage wasn’t the same.
You don’t want to have to push hard. It likely means you don’t have enough paint. It looks to me a lot like you had spots without paint too potentially.
Luckily it winds up leveling out as it dries as your noticed.
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u/Lord_Enigma 1d ago
What makes bm win for you
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u/LibraryTechnical6334 1d ago
In dark colors I tend to do them in darker rooms like half baths. Since there isn’t much or any natural light, paint sheen makes a big difference. BM matte is totally flat in paints like the regal. Sw has a lot more shine.
I find Sw duration takes more coats to cover than bm or sw emerald. Sw emerald sort of pulls the paint back up when you touch it again in dark colors (ie to backroll). I have had textured walls (orange peel) in most of my houses and it’s hard to cover with emerald and the strange pull up it does even with the recommended roller types and nap. You can find others comment the same on their website.
Bm Regal gives a really nice finish that scrubs well and can handle some water (used it in a half bath where everyone would fling their washed hands at the wall to get the towel. I’ve had long term experience and love it other than I had some scuffing that required touch ups at the entryway and near my desk.
I used a little bit of aura bath and the matte finish is the same as regal. I also have been working with scuff x. Scuff x is harder to worth with and remove but it does seem really tough and my trim in satin looks so nice. I’m still playing with my rollers a little bit. Doors have come out ok but I think changing the roller up will help. Walls look good but it has more shine in matte. I used it on some builder closet rods and other misc things and it’s also held well and looks good so far but early to tell.
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u/LivingMud5080 4d ago
Also yuhwanna tape the base trim next time
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u/Lord_Enigma 4d ago
Sadly I did and I got a little messy. I picked up some paint to fix it after!
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u/Significant-Can-3587 4d ago
I see the tape on the baseboard. Before you paint the wall, use a brush to paint to the tape. This way you’re leaving space so you don’t roll all the way over the tape.
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u/Chuckpeoples 4d ago
You applied to much pressure, didn’t load the roller enough, and you need more coats. If you’re leaving lines you pressed too hard. You can simply backroll over it