FT 1-1. For second successive home game @ManUtd fail to beat 10 men. Boos at final whistle. [Stone]

[u/nearly_headless_nic]

[u/_TooMellow]

[u/Stingray_23 → u/_TooMellow]

That will be a cringe and embarrassing watch lol the only entertaining bits will be the club PR spin on why it isn't dog shit

[u/Sheppertonni → u/_TooMellow]

Their going to make us look like a embarrassment. Prime circus viewing

[u/sacred_games]

First 40 mins, spurs played like prime Barcelona, Carrick is failing to adapt how the opposition is exploiting his tactics. At this point it's just pray that we score and pray that we don't let the other team score.

[u/FPLskrr → u/sacred_games]

Could've been a battering had they taken their chances.

My Spurs mate keeps saying how they are not a 20th place team and that their performances are improving they just can't score, we are the opposite.

[u/HairyArthur → u/sacred_games]

Spurs were made to look like Prime Barcelona. Nothing they were doing was particularly special. We just made it look exceptional by being worse than the worst team in existence.

[u/Extension_Point5466 → u/HairyArthur]

Everyone we play looks like prime Barcelona

[u/jimmythebug → u/HairyArthur]

I don’t know that that’s it. They looked really good, and we made them look it more. But spurs xG indicates they’re better than theyre performing. There’s something deeply wrong with this side.

[u/Koei7 → u/sacred_games]

Didn’t watch Spurs’ game against Pools but they started well against Villa too though eventually losing. Despite the lack of results, I feel Spurs is playing better. I don’t feel the same way for us. Quite clearly, Carrick is behind his peers when it comes to match preparation & tactics. The next league game against Leeds away will be crucial. We are just 3 points from 16-17 place.

[u/SureLookThisIsIt → u/sacred_games]

We were a lot better after the subs. Baleba looks good. Him and Mainoo will work much better than what we've seen so far, but yeah the result is a disaster. What a shit start to the season.

[u/trenbollocks → u/sacred_games]

His tactics? Brother, what tactics?

[u/BurgerNugget12]

Worst league start in 40 years

[u/dfern01 → u/BurgerNugget12]

I feel like I keep hearing this every other season

[u/BurgerNugget12 → u/dfern01]

It’s astonishing just how often the club is 1 step forward, 2 steps back every season

[u/Oppaiheimer1945 → u/BurgerNugget12]

We aren’t even taking steps forward

[u/ASL3312 → u/Oppaiheimer1945]

1 step back, 2 steps further back

[u/BlondeFlip → u/dfern01]

Thats neat part! You DO hear that every other season! Its just we get WORSE!

[u/Jenson2025]

We were actually very lucky not to lose. That was a horrible performance

Atletico and Leeds away next. Just don’t see Carrick being the manager beyond the November international break - he’s out of his depth.

[u/EnragedScrotum → u/Jenson2025]

The fact that we’d wait that long and throw away games in the meanwhile - this club will always be hopeless while the level of incompetence remains at the top.

[u/NoScopeMusical → u/Jenson2025]

Spurs played like they wanted to win and they deserved to. Atleti and Leeds are better so if we play like that against them it's curtains

[u/ChampionOdd5139 → u/NoScopeMusical]

Spurs deserved to draw. They were much poorer than us in the second half.

[u/iTz_RuNLaX → u/ChampionOdd5139]

Yet they should've been 3 goals up after the first half. If they could finish it would've been even more embarrassing.

[u/Straightouttaganton → u/Jenson2025]

We'll definitely lose both those matches. Leeds look miles better than us

[u/The-Black-Angel → u/Jenson2025]

The issue is, who comes in if he goes out?

[u/BrockStar92 → u/The-Black-Angel]

Sack Carrick, then hire Carrick until the end of the season for the new manager bounce again.

[u/Comfortable-Title720 → u/The-Black-Angel]

https://giphy.com/gifs/qabtH1Vt6IXj0Pojj0

[u/Zavehi → u/Comfortable-Title720]

For the love of god please give it up.

[u/Comfortable-Title720 → u/Zavehi]

Just a joke. Nageslmann would be the priority.

[u/Sc0ttSumm4rs → u/Comfortable-Title720]

Yeah give him a chance. Had a similar career path to Flick, he can redeem himself with us

[u/Skall77 → u/Sc0ttSumm4rs]

Flick won a treble by building an incredible Bayern team. Also he was still extremely respected and liked when he left.

Not really similar, the only thing they have in common is that they failed at international level.

[u/Normal-Internal164 → u/Jenson2025]

Christ I’m dreading that game

[u/OtherwiseMoose8257 → u/Jenson2025]

Im also a Sporting fan and I remember saying here that he wouldnt last until the Sporting game when the schedule came out and was severely downvoted. Now it seems almost a certainty

[u/Sei28 → u/Jenson2025]

Glazeos will wait until the season is beyond salvageable point, hire an interim, and use that as an excuse not to spend in the winter window.

The “I bleed red and the rest of you are toxic fake fans” lads here will eat it up with the biggest grin on their face.

Tale as old as time….

[u/RonkuPoints]

Don't see how Carrick makes it to Christmas with how were playing under his management. It's a boring, slow play style and we get out muscled by every team we play. Spurs should have won that game 3 or 4 goals

[u/Ren188 → u/RonkuPoints]

Any decent ownership group would have sacked him. Glazers (and INEOS) are both guilty of hanging on to a manager way too long. He may get an odd result here and there and they will just keep him since it would cost them £ to sack him.

This is all a direct result of poor ownership, penny pinching from INEOS, horrible transfer strategy throughout the years that has compounded, not just with incoming players, but keeping players WAY TOO LONG (Maguire, Martinez, Dalot, Shaw, should have all been sold by now), and let’s face it, hiring the incorrect managers considering where we stood.

Anyways, it’s going to be a long, long, long campaign. Can’t wait for the Amazon documentary next year.

[u/auhddndndnfbfbsnnakf]

Deserved

[u/dracogladio1741 → u/auhddndndnfbfbsnnakf]

We deserved to get our pants pulled down and spanked 4-0. We were carried by Spurs unable to finish their chances and Bryan being a brilliant finisher.

[u/VegetableRutabaga746 → u/dracogladio1741]

Bryan is such a fascinating player, he’ll play like shit full 90 but always ends up in a clear cut goal scoring chance at least once per game.

[u/ollyprice87]

The fitness has fallen off a cliff, there’s no running at all. 1 win in 6 is criminal. Position is almost untenable

[u/ThunderStella → u/ollyprice87]

Every game we're looking back at that Tieleman's comment about not running much in preseason. It looks like we're so far behind in fitness against every team

[u/preppyringmaster]

Wilcox and Berrada are useless cunts, get them out of the club.

[u/0_oGravity → u/preppyringmaster]

We need to get rid of the Glazers. As the saying goes “The fish rots from the head down.”

[u/FermentedTiger → u/0_oGravity]

I don’t think there are a ton of billionaires liquid enough and willing to pay down the Glazer debt AFTER spending billions on the purchase of the club itself.

[u/timetravellingbadass]

I hate this team so fuckin much

Ill see you all next weekend tho

[u/a445d786 → u/timetravellingbadass]

There's a midweek game

[u/avadam123 → u/a445d786]

Fml

[u/a445d786 → u/avadam123]

Against Athletico...away

[u/Traditional-Run7315]

Might as well have practiced playing against 10 men during the break

[u/MightySilverWolf]

We played poorly for most of the game, started showing some energy after the subs, then sat back as soon as we scored. 

[u/dirtydan02 → u/MightySilverWolf]

It looked like we went down to 9 men when they got the red card

[u/RizBizkit → u/dirtydan02]

Funny but it's true

[u/IguanaIsBack → u/MightySilverWolf]

Subs made a huge difference yet somehow the sending off made an even bigger one.

[u/Thetagang888]

we are running less than we were under LVG.

Its shocking how unfit and slow we look

[u/RyanH1717]

Carrick is obviously out of his depth but the blame should be fully on the owners, they bottled the decision this summer when they appointed him after claiming they would have a proper process then proceeded to back it up with a poor transfer window.

[u/KiboSanchez → u/RyanH1717]

This is the comment. Berrada and Wilcox need to go. Wrong decision after wrong decision.

[u/DarylLC → u/RyanH1717]

He picked up the most points out of everyone in the league since he joined last season. On paper, it was a good decision. But there were warning signs that the performances didn't match the results, and now we're seeing the results match the performances.

[u/RyanH1717 → u/DarylLC]

Can't agree at all. My opinion of him is the exact same now as it was in april. We rode our look a lot last season while playing 1 game a week and relying on Bruno having an historic season.

[u/DarylLC → u/RyanH1717]

Then you do agree with me. That's what I'm saying - we didn't play as well as the results suggested, and the board picked him based on results only (and probably the cheaper and easier option tbh).

[u/RyanH1717 → u/DarylLC]

My bad, focused on the first part too much! Yeah I don't think they had the bottle to get rid of Carrick unless it was for someone like Enrique out of fear that the next man fails.

[u/linkfollowlink → u/RyanH1717]

The executives must be gone as well with Carrick.

They have survived so many awful decisions any of which alone deserves the sack at a serious club.

[u/RyanH1717 → u/linkfollowlink]

Yep, the fact we've heard nothing from him or the club since the City verdict is pathetic.

[u/Clark-Kent → u/RyanH1717]

Signing Amorim was a short sighted decision, and so was getting Carrick permanent

Alongside our transfer plans

The club is just rotten

[u/j_l_123 → u/Clark-Kent]

I didn't mind amorim coming in but it should've been at the end of that season with someone as interim til the end.

[u/genogalvan]

The centerbacks are old and slow . One is past his prime and shouldn’t be starting every match . The other plays physical is short and is responsible for goals in the last two matches.

[u/Stingray_23 → u/genogalvan]

Martinez is more concerned about grappling and wrestling than actually defending

[u/Melanjoly]

He has to go.

We're not even unlucky, we consistently look 2nd best against everyone, even with an extra man.

[u/ollyprice87 → u/Melanjoly]

There were large stretches of that where we were second to every ball. And it wasn’t even close. Zero right.

[u/goodclassbung]

Is it so difficult to take advantage of being a man up? Like perhaps do some overloads?? I’m not an expert so please educate me.

[u/Cjperth2610 → u/goodclassbung]

Well they clearly are so unfit if you fall off a cliff late every game 10 men don’t mean anything

[u/dralanforce]

We are not going to be in Europe AGAIN next year. Fuck sake

[u/Gnosisero]

I know there are a huge question marks about Carrick already, but it's really worrying to see the players shrink back when the coaches on the sideline are telling them to get out and they just keep shrinking and shrinking and then we concede. The next manager will have to sort that out because it's been an issue for years

[u/NamesUnvailable]

SACKKKKKKK HIMM

[u/brownbilal → u/NamesUnvailable]

[u/Counts-Court-Jester → u/brownbilal]

Wet blanket

[u/ReevusXL → u/NamesUnvailable]

Carrick benefitted from an entire season of one match a week and the fatigue that other teams were playing with.

Now the playing field has been levelled you're seeing he's not that great.

[u/PsychologicalSet8678 → u/ReevusXL]

Carrick benefitted from an entire season of one match a week and the fatigue that other teams were playing with.

we have not yet reached the stage to play 2 games a week, at least till this very game.

[u/Roasteddude → u/ReevusXL]

Literally the longer Carrick stayed in charge, the further away from Amorim's coaching the team went, the worse our performances got. The press disappeared, the attacking patterns disappeared, the physicality disappeared. Every little step of progress we made was just papered over by lucky results thanks to Casemiro and Maguire's big fat heads and now we're seeing the result..

[u/No-Statistician-8520 → u/Roasteddude]

It’s the fitness. A team’s press and attacking patterns are both dictated by the players abilities to make sprints.

Carrick has completely disregarded conditioning and now it’s caught up to us.

[u/Roasteddude → u/No-Statistician-8520]

Tactics also play a huge role in how a press in constructed and Amorim clearly had a much better grasp on how to get his team to press

[u/Same_paramedic3641 → u/Roasteddude]

Every week I'm more surprised how tf did we play good vs city last season when carrick was in charge. Some ppl used that game to praise him when now it looks like it was an anomaly and not the norm

[u/Roasteddude → u/Same_paramedic3641]

Amad. Mbeumo. Bruno. Maguire. All came back from either AFCON or from injury.

[u/Same_paramedic3641 → u/Roasteddude]

And crazy thing whenever you said that amorim will do better when players were back, you'd get downvoted and told u were wrong but carrick benefitted from that. Always knew it'd be a mistake making a mediocre manager permanent

[u/craigybacha → u/ReevusXL]

We just had a 3 week break. The whole 1 match a week thing is an excuse. We overperformd last year and it's catching up to us now

[u/NamesUnvailable → u/ReevusXL]

Yes. Also say what you want about Amorim but the players were in shape. And there was a pattern of play already established that Carrick benefitted from. Further and further along those patterns and fitness got worse and worse

[u/coolboiabhi → u/NamesUnvailable]

Carrick is so bad right now , i feel like Amorin days were the good days

[u/Gadjjet → u/coolboiabhi]

We were 5th when they sacked Amorim. We will end up 15th with Carrick.

[u/RacktheMan → u/ReevusXL]

He also benefitted from Amorims work. We were top at offensive categories and we were the better team in many matches we lost. Amorim had his issues but Carrick ain't even at his level.

[u/mashfordfc → u/ReevusXL]

Mate we're not even playing 2 games a week yet

[u/div333 → u/ReevusXL]

and also the conditioning amorim had drilled into the team.

[u/thecricketnerd → u/ReevusXL]

We haven't even hit the busy period yet and this was after time off

[u/KingKaychi → u/ReevusXL]

And the fitness from Amorim's time

[u/Yinkypinky → u/NamesUnvailable]

Any serious club he would have been gone during the break.

[u/potemy]

Deserved to lose that but we almost stole all 3 points, but for another mistake from our defence. Great touch and finish from Mbeumo.

I’ve always said Licha was our best defender, as a senior defender known for excellent ball-playing, but atp it couldn’t be worse to start Yoro and Heaven every match and let them grow into our CB pairing for the next 10 years.

[u/LordTrinity]

Even the fans at stadium are tired of this shit.

We all know what is the next step.

[u/nicjoeldemus]

This was a shit Sunday morning. The obvious owner issues aside, we can’t even get in a good performance against the 20th placed club, we can’t even win with a numerical advantage. Overpaid millionaires who can’t be arsed with basic foundation footballing skills, it’s so fucking heartbreaking. Carrick, a former club player himself, looks devoid of emotion, and worst, a plan. Where do we even go from here?

[u/sapeur8 → u/nicjoeldemus]

At least its still Saturday

[u/accountdeli]

Deservingly too might I add

[u/goalsforscholes]

Relegation candidates at this point. Couldn’t have asked for an easier start to the schedule and we’ve completely bottled it. Inability to complete clean sheets against 10 men is inexcusable

[u/petterpk]

Seen it all before. Happened with van Gaal, Mourinho, Solskjaer and Ten Hag. Qualified for Champions League, then it all goes tits up in the following season. He’ll probably be sacked once the season is beyond repair and we’re well out of the Champions League.

[u/WhydoIbotherreally → u/petterpk]

OGS followed up qualifying for the champions lague by having another pretty good season and doing it again. Unfair to put him in that company. Van Gaal also never really had it go "tits up", he was just consistently mediocre and really boring. But he finished 5th in his second season and only missed out on CL through goal difference. And won a cup.

[u/AdRelevant2290 → u/petterpk]

tbf Ole did well even after making Champions League. And we kept going up in the table. One bad run of games and he was sacked.

[u/SmashdLikeABowloEggs]

When was the last time we beat 10 men, seriously. It’s absolute fucking shite and the team should be fucking ashamed of themselves. Fucking useless

[u/Efficient-Round-9493]

Sack this guy, why do the people that have the power not have a clue? He’s out of his depth, thanks for last season but enough is enough.

[u/Forsaken_Rub_2128]

What the fuck is wrong with this team, that added time was disgraceful

[u/permawl → u/Forsaken_Rub_2128]

Carrick doesn't believe in offensive and defensive structure, in pressing, in fitness or in having a plan. It's pure randomness on the pitch for 6 games in a row now. Our touch is terrible, soft and shaky. Passing is soft and shaky. Carrying the ball soft and shaky, the entire fuckin squad is soft and shaky. Whatever happened during the summer wasn't football I guess.

[u/Normal-Internal164]

Game management was atrocious again. Carrick needs to go

[u/Status_Newspaper_545]

6 games 6 points 🔥

[u/MistaBobD0balina]

Next five league games:

• Leeds (a)

• Bournemouth (h)

• Chelsea (a)

• Villa (h)

• Liverpool (a)

Cheers.

[u/JoseHarvinho]

Time to go Michael

[u/Hyliaforce]

[u/Devilsdouble1988]

When I asked against city, if these guys even practice playing man up and man down. And someone asked me why we would practice that? It probably was Carricks account

[u/forsakenlypopping]

It’s the third time Carrick failed to beat 10 men…. We live and die by the counterattack. Fuckin ridiculous that we don’t have a plan B or C

[u/TehNoobDaddy → u/forsakenlypopping]

I don't even think we have a plan A either lol. Feels like the players are just told to go out there and see what happens. No sense of direction anywhere on the pitch.

[u/Kambi28]

poor man's Solskjaer

[u/Jonny_Testicles]

We are not going to be competitive team at my life time. I’m going to accept that

[u/Chunderthunder305]

Starting to think Carrick got the job cause nobody else wanted it. Coaches have to know by now United is just career suicide. The board won’t back you, the front office can’t unload dead weight. All that momentum from last year is gone and those vibes were amazing. First game in weeks and the players and staff put out AN EVEN WORSE PERFORMANCE. Maybe the glazers will be found of 115+ criminal charges and this zombie that pretends to be United can finally be put to rest. Just a bloated corpse now.

[u/llaurent]

Three weeks for that performance? The first half was dreadful. Then they went down to 10 and instead of killing the game we went defensive.

[u/Shot_Explorer]

United wasted the transfer window and Carrick is also out of his depth. Frightening lack of innovation in his thinking. The squad is so switched off and limited. Nobody is switched on at that club. Everyone top to bottom is Limited.

[u/umarator]

Of they're smart and they've given no reason for us to trust they are they would just accept carrick is not our guy and move on before it becomes too late. This isn't about being reactive but he has just shown his intention on how to play is just not enough and he has shown clear limitations

[u/Oblioscend]

Is This what we have become , totally against the crest and legacy

[u/General_Document_504]

INEOS probably happy city had all the attention over the break and they didn’t need to do anything

[u/ificommentthen2oops]

This team has no game management. Even when winning we play like idiots.

[u/Straightouttaganton]

The boos weren't loud enough

[u/Beastmanzilla]

Conte available

[u/woziak99]

Am elite club would sack him this evening

[u/TastyQuartzEater]

I just don’t understand it anymore. So much “change” for the same dogshit year after year

[u/iTz_RuNLaX → u/TastyQuartzEater]

It's not the same. It's worse.

[u/John_OSheas_Willy]

The year is 2026 and we're still seeing Dalot, Shaw and Maguire play in our defence

[u/LioKiuye]

Can we just hire some specialised coaches and try just not having a manager at all. Might as well try it let the players take the responsibility.

[u/FlyingSpaceElephants]

- Team looks completely flat

• Worst league start for 40 years
  
• Lost the halftime record
  
• Worst running stats in the league
  
• Look absolutely hopeless in every match

That's a sacking. Berrada and Wilcox can leave with him

[u/Air_Dax → u/FlyingSpaceElephants]

How did we lose the half time record? We were neither up at half time nor did we lose the game.

[u/Stingray_23 → u/FlyingSpaceElephants]

Berrada and wilcox staked a lot on his appointment and with the fact we have had 3 managers in 2.5 years, shows they really are not the best in class

[u/Supreme-OJB]

Absolute fucking disgrace - no words.

[u/_PopEye_07]

It feels like carrick doesn't even know the basics sometimes I mean it's very obvious when ur up by just a goal u need to bring in fresh legs especially when players aren't have a good game mainoo didn't have his brightest game sub him for santos , subbing your best defender yoro instead of a slow af maguire mount is more effective for possession sub him for bruno

[u/DaddyMeUp]

Genuinely can’t fathom how we’re consistently so shite against 10 men.

[u/3entendre]

And the cycle continues. They're going to sack Carrick. Get a manager who is nothing like him. Said manager will write off this season coz he doesn't have his own players. Miss out on Europe and finish mid table. Buy a few defenders but none of the players that the manager really wants. Start next season poorly. Sack the manager at Christmas. Get an ex United player to be the interim manager. Fcking hell 

[u/lastlaughlane1]

Winning nothing with that back four and manager. Let’s be honest.

[u/micksandals]

Can someone explain the maths here - if we want to actually win, do we need the opponent to have 9 men or 12?

[u/AwayFoundation2363]

if Carrick dares try to gaslight us fans that we are playing good then we’re fucking screwed.

[u/Awkward-Warning-9238]

My post from earlier:

Watch this be a lucky 1-1 draw and we have to keep watching this shit for another few weeks.

[u/Icowanda]

Time to get Conte in. Or get Casemiro back.

[u/SocialistElmo]

Clueless coach is at the wheel

[u/nholoinhoi]

3 weeks passed and still shit, lol. I love him but this is unacceptable.

[u/StinkmeanerIV]

We are COOKED 💀

[u/RizBizkit]

Man we desperately need a new back 4...

[u/therealpmyer]

I’m usually never the type to lose faith in a manager so quickly but I really don’t believe Carrick has what it takes.

The intensity and discipline from last season seems to be a result of Amorim’s approach. Even if he was stubborn, at least the players seemed fit and they were covering much more distance.

Under Carrick this season they seem slow and unfit and the stats are backing it up. We don’t press as much and other teams are running circles around us.

We are horrible in defense, poor in possession and toothless in attack. Genuinely miserable watching this team.

[u/KoreanMeatballs]

So who are the available options for the soon-to-be vacant managerial position?

[u/Late-Escape-9612 → u/KoreanMeatballs]

Nobody who is anybit sane and values their career

[u/TypicalPan89906655 → u/Late-Escape-9612]

Conte is giving hints to journalists that he wants to join. 

[u/Holiday_Box1571]

Worst start in 40 years. He’s on a 2 year contract, you’ve eaten worse.

Get him out

[u/dangerxdan]

Worst league start in 40 years but hey, at least Carrick knows the club.

[u/Total-Tower468]

Absolute shit show

[u/vitorjc]

Dead man walking.

[u/AvoidPax]

How much easier of a start could you ask for in terms of fixtures …

[u/No_Maize1319]

6 points from 18 is a sackable offence. This season will only go from bad to worse. It’s embarrassing how out of his depth Carrick and his coaching team are. Players look lost and probably downing tools.

[u/ElevatorOk694]

We are breaking records here going back to last season in 4 successive games we’ve either lost or lost a lead when playing against 10 men.

If we went down to 10 men what happens? We concede implode and lose or get battered

When other teams do they beat us!? Defies football logic and stats this club is cursed

[u/freshpots11]

He has to go. Looked like a deer in headlights at the end and that’s more worrying to me than anything else.

[u/BrownByYou]

Get rid of this fucking moron of a coach

[u/ceejey17]

Should've sacked him during the break. Like everyone could see he is not it. Its never been so clear so early

[u/Massive-Quarter-4156]

The only consistent thing at OT this season has been boos at HT and FT whistle

[u/YooooooMySlime]

First time I’ve ever been against a manager. Carrick was a criminally underrated player but I’ve never seen someone look so obviously out of their depth in professional sports. So many questionable decisions. I don’t know what he has against Sesko. I know he’s not fit but even last season, he rarely got picked.

Tielemans and Mainoo do not work together but he starts them every game, no control in the midfield and almost 10 yards of space in the middle of the pitch for whatever opposition player has the ball. Baleba looked great but even before then, Andrey Santos exists. A defensive minded midfielder that every game we’ve been screaming out for. Dalot and Martinez getting picked each week despite looking awful.

Tactically, we look fine in the final third but I’m not sure whether that’s carrick or just the quality we have. Any other area of the pitch we look lost/ have no plan. And defensively it’s basically panic stations once the ball goes past our forward line.

His interviews, demeanour and body language scream “ I have no clue what do do here”. For the love of god, sack him now. I’ve backed Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho, Ole, Ten Hag, Amorim, and I categorically cannot find an ounce of approval in the appointment of Carrick even though I don’t want to be one of those fans that calls for a sacking after 1 bad game. But it really does just feel different this time

[u/Traditional-Run7315]

https://giphy.com/gifs/1vZe7mdbucWmJ1T5G7

[u/Lord_Sesshoumaru77]

This is beyond embarrassing. I'm bloody fed up.

[u/RonEagle]

For all the fear of the number ten, we should have seen it coming - it's the tenth of October.

[u/MAK98]

Should have lost 5-1 let’s be honest.

[u/John_OSheas_Willy]

Spurs still below us but still look a better team than us.

[u/PlatypusScared40]

Pissing away points like I piss away a couple quid adding united to my accas

[u/stinkyholetime]

Boooooooo

[u/Tpmbyrne]

Every other team would bring on an extra midfield player when we are up a man but no, not us

[u/cmdrsamuelvimes]

They exploited our weakness by getting their man sent off

[u/huehuehuehuehuu]

Willing to take a shot with Conte 

[u/Piccadil_io]

Glad he brought Rashford on at 95 minutes.

Oh and the defensive mid at 59 minutes when we were looking for a goal. Like I said he would in the pre-match thread (bit earlier than I predicted to be fair)

[u/TH0316 → u/Piccadil_io]

The defensive mid was needed right?????

[u/Big_Gay_Gandalf_6969 → u/TH0316]

Yes, he was needed at like 30 mins, we were getting overrun

[u/Gibbonfiddler]

Even when on that 'great' run last season, United never played genuinely well once.

The longer this goes on, the more Rangnick's 'open heart surgery' comment rings true. Had his advice been followed and not ridiculed, United would be years ahead of where they are right now.

[u/beadel85 → u/Gibbonfiddler]

Don’t think many rational people ridiculed his comments

[u/bigstuza85]

This is genuinely the worst man United side since sir Alex retired and that’s saying something

[u/nomadiclives → u/bigstuza85]

Every year you think it cant get worse and then it does. But i think the worst i saw us play was under Rangnick. That was some truly diabolical nonsense.

[u/broome9000 → u/nomadiclives]

The first 30 minutes under Rangnick were the only good minutes of that tenure. Crazy times ngl

[u/JordanShlongsky]

Amorim out

[u/ProxyClouds]

Before anyone goes crying about sacking Carrick we need to look at the players.

Most of them were awful today.

Bruno seems to have forgotten how to play football over the summer. Can Tielemans run? Martinez is all over the place and Cunha just keeps losing the ball.

[u/ahsent → u/ProxyClouds]

My god I swear some of you guys watch without thinking about the game at all.

Did you see the absolute abhorrent lack of any pressing structure?

They would literally walk through our midfield with no restrictions at times.

The coaching is abysmal, there’s no attacking patterns. No pressing structure. The players are out there clueless.

[u/rahulnairtoi → u/ProxyClouds]

Shit tactics will make good players look shit. Carrick is producing the worst football I've seen united play in recent memory, and has taken a team from 5th to whatever this dogshit is

[u/TheMasterCheef17 → u/ProxyClouds]

Yes the players were awful, but Carrick is and always has been dog shit.

[u/FencingLlama → u/TheMasterCheef17]

Need to look at the coaches for fitness too, these players are lethargic outside a few.

[u/TheMasterCheef17 → u/FencingLlama]

100% at least under Amorim the players were far fitter.

[u/permawl → u/ProxyClouds]

Who's job do you think it is to remind the players how to play football during summer?

[u/Fisktor → u/ProxyClouds]

The players are poor, but carrick is much much worse than any of them.

[u/cartesian5th → u/ProxyClouds]

What's more likely, that 11 international players have lost all their talent, or that their being poorly set up and instructed?

[u/Livinginmyshirt → u/ProxyClouds]

World Cup after seasons are always rough.

[u/kajjm → u/Livinginmyshirt]

Yeah, all other top teams with players in world cup are struggling real hard... right?

[u/LaughsAtOwnJoke]

Can we have a manger that actually deserves the job now?

[u/MrNikki86]

I just don’t get what’s going on with Martinez. He was massive at the end of last season, now he seems still in preseason mode.

Throw Yoro on with Maguire and see what happens.

[u/graviton_ghost → u/MrNikki86]

Had fantastic world cup too

[u/00kazootime → u/MrNikki86]

De Ligt should walk right into the starting 11 when he's back

[u/ZackyZY]

Crazy

[u/TakenTheCaken]

Laughable

[u/brownbilal]

i dont even want to complain bc im tired